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Trade Parker for a 2nd that we bundle with #54 for another first round pick?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Rickysabeast, Apr 20, 2017.

  1. Rickysabeast

    Rickysabeast Royale With Cheese

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    Personally, I say we trade Parker for a 2nd this year (plug in Carroo). Bundle the 2 2nd rounders to get back into the later half of round one. We have #54 with a 360 pt value and say we get a 2nd somewhere in the first 15 picks of round 2 in exchange for Parker (average of the first 15 in round 2 is 500.66). So we would have 860 points of value to trade back into the back half of round one which is the value of overall pick #21 or north. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/draft/draft-trade-chart/

    Maybe take both Taco Charlton and TJ Watt and supercharge the D Line???? Maybe we snag Peppers and Oj Howard (who is always available at #22 on the mock draft using CBS Sports data).

    I think Parker showed his value a bit last year once Gase got him to man up. But, I don't get the feeling that he'll ever be as good as we want him to be. We have quite a few holes and need more solid players at DE, LB, S and G. I'm also not that sure about Julius Thomas' ability to stay healthy and Fasano is up there in years so I'd love to snag Howard who is an animal.
     
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  2. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Interesting idea, but I've done about 50 CBS board mock drafts, using the NFL Draft for team needs, and have never had OJ Howard fall to 22.
     
  3. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    Carroo isn't what Parker can be and reason why we selected him in round 1.
    We need an Alpha X, like Dez or AJ Green or Julio. Carroo is less accomplished than Parker, despite him being hurt. Plus, I don't think you can get a 2nd for Parker
     
  4. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    No

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  5. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    lol but why
     
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  6. cbrad

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    We have a decent set of WR's even if Parker hasn't shown us everything we hoped for. I wouldn't suddenly make that unit a question mark again by assuming Carroo will pan out. So I'm also a no.
     
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  7. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    Another no.
     
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  8. Rickysabeast

    Rickysabeast Royale With Cheese

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    Really? I get him every single time. I do the user voted team needs and CBS draft. Did it a week ago and then twice yesterday.
     
  9. finsfandan

    finsfandan Well-Known Member

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    I'd rather take the chance Parker will remain injury prone than the chance of drafting someone as good as him who might still be injury prone.


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  10. Rickysabeast

    Rickysabeast Royale With Cheese

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    I thought the thought of responding was to defend your stance. Why no?
     
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  11. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Best to just put him on ignore...lol..he has no defense.
     
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  12. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    The difference is probably you use "user voted" team needs. I use the NFL Mock as mine.

    I'd love it if Howard fell to us though.
     
  13. Rickysabeast

    Rickysabeast Royale With Cheese

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    I'll try it now. Yeah, he's a total beast. I don't know what the likeliness of him getting to us is though. If I'm the saints, I'd totally snatch him up at 11 and whack the nitrous button on their offense. I;d love to see us do the same. I don't think we
    re one player away from fixing the D. I think if we have a chance to supercharge the offense with either Howard of Njoku it'd be a good move. The only D player I'd lose sweat that I think would be available would be Peppers.
     
  14. Rickysabeast

    Rickysabeast Royale With Cheese

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    Yeah with NFL Mock he was gone at #13. Top three left are Fournette, Cook and Peppers. I took Peppers.
     
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  15. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    When I do the mock Howard is gone in the top 10-11 every time. Peppers is there probably over 75-80% of the time and when he is I take him.
     
  16. Rickysabeast

    Rickysabeast Royale With Cheese

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    I'd love to see Peppers in a Dolphins uniform. He's going to be an amazing player. Hard hitter, smart, true defensive weapon. I view him as a hybrid between Brock Marion and Zach.
     
  17. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Your all Crazy! No way in the world I trade Parker he was injured got better and needed time to get his game on. This is his year Parker will become the Alpha and Landry will still talk more :) No way I trade him this year!
     
  18. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    I'm not so sure I'd call him an "alpha". He's a pretty quiet guy.
     
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  19. Not So Fast

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    I doubt anyone would trade a 2nd for him at this point. The production just isn't there. I'm still hopeful that the develop into a true #1, so I would hang on to him.
     
  20. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    I don't see any reason to trade away offensive weapons.
     
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  21. gilv13

    gilv13 Well-Known Member

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    what?
     
  22. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    I didn't mean any offense, I was just following suit of the couple "no's" ahead of me, but I would site Vontae Davis, spend a 1st then trade him for a 2nd and watch him become a probowler on another team, not into seeing that transpire again.

    I would trade Parker for a 1st, if I can't get my pound price I'll just see if he can develop, I'm not willing to take a loss on him yet, he's definitely show us flashes of potential alpha WR.
     
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  23. JIGGAJOE

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    Only way I trade him is for a low 1st or high 2nd. Either way he is probably moved next year if he doesn't show something in year 3.
     
  24. DolPhinPhan7

    DolPhinPhan7 Well-Known Member

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    Parker is better than Juice, give your head a shake.
     
  25. Silverphin

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    I wouldn't do this because he's a receiver that Tannehill trusts, and I'd much rather not do anything that would hinder Tannehill. Plus, there's no one else on the roster that has Parker's skillset.
     
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  26. jw3102

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    Because of injuries and his inconsistent play since being drafted in 2015, I don't see any team offering the Dolphins a 2nd round pick for Parker. A late 4th round or 5th round draft pick is about the best they could get for him, based on his play the past two seasons.

    They are much better off keeping him on the roster and hoping he develops into a better player this coming season.
     
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  27. dolphin25

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    Just draft Taywan Taylor it is much easier
     
  28. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    Hilltopper in the house, lol, I really like TT, he looks like Landry all over again.

    WKU is pushing out some talent recently, Lamp is a great prospect, Higbee, TT, Doughty, NFL is getting injected with Hilltoppers, lol.
     
  29. Rickysabeast

    Rickysabeast Royale With Cheese

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    I think the other reason that it could maybe happen is that Gase didn't draft Parker and gave him some tough love. Hoping if we hold on to him, it's because he's turning the corner.
     
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  30. Base of Gase

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    I don't either, much agreed. Between the injuries and immaturity, he's still a bit of a wild card that could go one way or the other. I personally really like the kid and think he has tremendous upside.

    The third year wide receiver phenomenon is in effect this year, so I'm really looking forward to see what him and Tannehill can do (praying they both stay healthy). If they're both firing on all cylinders, I think that our offense will be quite explosive and can dictate tempo and points from the onset.

    To play the hypothetical and say that another team actually offered a second round pick, well, that's tough. I still don't think I would do it, just because I want to see what's in store for Parker's third year, for better or worse.

    I'll be honest and say it's definitely thought provoking, though.
     
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  31. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    I feel like we have to move somebody here. The drafting of Caroo makes 0 sense unless the plan was to either trade Parker/Landry or let either Landry or Stills walk. Either that, or for reason our FO thinks a #4 wideout is worth 3 mid round draft picks. If the latter is the case, they should all be unemployed right now. They clearly liked Caroo and feel he can be a player ... so what was the plan? We already Parker, Landry and Stills. I just find it really hard to believe they became that enamored of a single player, and/or the heavy use 4 WR sets needed to even come close to justification.
     
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  33. Mr_Goodson

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    Trade Parker. Not worth keeping.


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  34. Clark Kent

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    Trade Parker? Is this Finheaven or has the main become this bad? Kid has flashed plenty of ability in his limited playing time. We drafted him knowing he was coming off a bum foot, which had minor complications (screw replacement) and foiled his rookie season. And he had a bum hammy last season. **** happens... Nothing indicates that is a long term concern. I guarantee we could get at minimum, a 2nd round pick for Parker. Every team in the league would be happy to take advantage of us.

    He's young kid, with tremendous potential, no character concerns, on a rookie contract, and some of you want to give him away for.... what exactly? Have a little patience.
     
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  35. Rickysabeast

    Rickysabeast Royale With Cheese

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    The idea is that we have a lot of holes to fill. I like Parker when he's on. But, if we do want to snag another pick we need to give something up (not saying this should happen just suggesting it as a possibility).

    However, I think we're all done being patient. If you are getting drafted in round one, the expectation is you should be kicking butt in year one and be a pro bowl player in year two. That's my expectation as we used our highest draft pick on you. I know that's not likely but that should be our expectation out of what we're going to get out of a first round pick.

    No problem with us keeping Parker but he needs to continue to man up and produce on the field.
     
  36. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Actually, Parker does have some character concerns. The word is that he's very anti-social and fairly meek. This staff loves the "alphas" and so far Parker has been anything but that.

    However, I do think he has a really great talent that this team needs. If the coaching staff feels like they can get that out of him then by all means don't trade him. However, if they feel as if he's a lost cause, trade him before he loses all value. FWIW, I think it's the former scenario and Parker won't be going anywhere.
     
  37. Tin Indian

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    Another No from me as well. Make s no sense to trade Parker at this point. He is young and dynamic and on the upswing. He seems like he is getting over his injury problems and is that big target you want to throw jump balls to. And I don't know about anyone else but I sure didn't see much reason to believe that Carroo can take over Parkers spot based on last season.
     
  38. Clark Kent

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    The idea is we ave plenty of holes to fill? So... we create another one? And then use the pick to package with another pick? So we have Parker, 1st round pick, 2nd round pick, and we trade Parker for a 2nd and trade our other 2nd for another first.... Um, that's one less player. Hard to fill holes with one less pick and one less WR.

    Secondly, your idea of 2nd year players becoming pro bowlers or they're busts is ridiculous. Ridiculous is a generous term. Especially when said player has flashed pro bowl ability. This isn't Dion Jordon we're talking about, Parker can actually play.
     
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  39. jdang307

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    I don't know much about AJ Green either, but he seems like a quiet guy. Alpha means, clear cut superstar #1 in this context, I believe. Parker's not gonna be Dez Bryant out there. Marvin Harrison, AJ Green, etc. quiet dudes but KILLED the field.

    Parker has that ability. If he ever gets motivated ... man. I keep hearing about Landry's magical motivational mojo rubbing off. We NEED that to rub off on Parker. He's our best shot at a superstar WR right now.

    And No.
     
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  40. dolphin25

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    yeah. There are several out there. Andrews RB with the Titans. Rainey with the Giants.

    I think Taylor can stretch the field a little better then Landry. Taylor was not much in the slot (meaning he did not run a lot of slot plays) , although he ran all routes.

    Higbee should be a beast in that 2 TE offense they are putting in for the Rams.
     

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