1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

****The Official 2016-2017 NBA Thread****

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by Section126, Jul 1, 2016.

  1. BevoPhin

    BevoPhin Well-Known Member

    1,523
    795
    113
    Mar 15, 2013
    I meant the Boston moneyline. Had to be a good payout for anyone that took it, I don't remember the odds.
     
  2. TheOne

    TheOne Active Member

    320
    150
    43
    Oct 14, 2016
    Anyone else think the way Cleveland lost was kind of shady?
     
  3. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    26,254
    17,386
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    Orlando
    Per Ira, the Heat, the league, the PA and Bosh are nearing an agreement which will wipe Bosh's number off the books and relieve the Heat of any cap or luxury tax liability moving forward if Bosh does return to play with another team. It's expected to be done before the draft so Heat would have cap certainty for transactions at that time

    Good news for everybody
     
    Zanno and sports24/7 like this.
  4. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

    12,162
    5,057
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    Here's some bad news for us heat fans

    Mcroberts has opted in
     
  5. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    32,925
    41,464
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    It's Riley, so some kind of Jedi mind trick is always possible, but this isn't really a surprise as he'd be lucky to get a minimum contract on the open market. Hopefully we can somehow trade him.
     
  6. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    26,254
    17,386
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    Orlando
    We can waive and stretch him if needs be. Cap hit gets spread over 3 years so we could save $4 million

    Another team might take an expiring though, particularly if they need to hit the salary floor
     
    eltos_lightfoot and sports24/7 like this.
  7. BevoPhin

    BevoPhin Well-Known Member

    1,523
    795
    113
    Mar 15, 2013
    This heat team would be pretty damn good with a healthy Bosh.
     
    eltos_lightfoot likes this.
  8. BevoPhin

    BevoPhin Well-Known Member

    1,523
    795
    113
    Mar 15, 2013
    What could have been.
     
  9. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    11,681
    10,413
    113
    May 7, 2008
    New Orleans
     
  10. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    75,122
    37,644
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    New York
     
    GARDENHEAD likes this.
  11. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    26,254
    17,386
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    Orlando
    Reports that Spurs and Chris Paul have mutual interest.

    I wonder if Riley would have interest in Aldridge if he became available. We did try to sign him 2 years ago
     
  12. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

    12,162
    5,057
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    No thanks, no one is softer than that guy. And we just got rid of a PF with a chronic heart issue. Aldridge has blood issues.
     
  13. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    32,925
    41,464
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    That's interesting because everyone assumed Paul was coming back to the Clippers. I wonder what that would mean for Blake Griffin. Would he be more inclined to bolt, or would the Clippers put more of a full court press on him to stay?
     
  14. BevoPhin

    BevoPhin Well-Known Member

    1,523
    795
    113
    Mar 15, 2013
    So we have 37 million to work with and that's not including Dion, JJ, Ellington and reed? Is that right? Or is that including reed and Ellington?

    I'm really curious what Dion and JJ are going to get offered. I assume JJ is going to be sought after by a few teams at least.
     
  15. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    32,925
    41,464
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    It can be up to $42M depending on what they do with their options and whether they waive and stretch McBob according to Albert Nahmad.
     
  16. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

    47,525
    72,483
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    Miami, Florida
    That Warriors moneyline on the Finals is gonna be dog****. I am guessing near 3 to 1. I sit it out, and there is damn near no possibility to make money in that series, considering how ridiculous the spreads have been in favor of the Dubs this post season.

    The Warriors are the most overwhelming team I have ever seen.
     
    eltos_lightfoot likes this.
  17. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    32,925
    41,464
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    Any thoughts on Miami's offseason plans?
     
    eltos_lightfoot likes this.
  18. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    11,681
    10,413
    113
    May 7, 2008
    New Orleans
    Tonight's Celtics starting lineup is garbage:

    Crowder
    Olynyk
    Smart
    Bradley
    Horford

    And Jerebco's face is so punchable.
     
    Last edited: May 25, 2017
    Stitches likes this.
  19. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

    47,525
    72,483
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    Miami, Florida
    I know they want to keep both Dion and JJ. They will seek a starter at Forward. Best bets are Hayward, Gallinari as hybrids. Blake Griffin IMO, is a good fit.

    Don't rule out a trade, or them preserving cap space to make a run at Paul George.
     
    sports24/7 and eltos_lightfoot like this.
  20. BevoPhin

    BevoPhin Well-Known Member

    1,523
    795
    113
    Mar 15, 2013
    We can fit a max contract and JJ and Dion, though, right?
     
  21. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

    52,652
    25,565
    113
    Nov 13, 2009
    LeGOAT
     
  22. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    32,925
    41,464
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    You think they can afford Griffin or Hayward if they re-sign Dion and JJ? Griffin is interesting because it feels like most people aren't really talking about him as a real possibility whereas they are with Hayward. Hayward would be a great get, but I wonder if Griffin actually isn't more likely. He's a great fit, things are dicey in LA, and Miami offers almost as many marketing opportunities as LA does, and that will probably be a factor for a guy in as many commercials as Griffin is.
     
  23. TheOne

    TheOne Active Member

    320
    150
    43
    Oct 14, 2016
    :nono:
     
    Last edited: May 26, 2017
    Boik14 likes this.
  24. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

    11,375
    11,392
    113
    Sep 28, 2015
    Cavs are a bigger underdog than last year at +220. Opening game 7 point dogs.

    Where's Section at???


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  25. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    75,122
    37,644
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    New York
    So many teams are lining up for George it's insane. For a guy who has never hit a game winning shot people act like he's the 2nd coming when in reality, he's best served being a Robin for a team that already has a batman. He's a very good, not great player.
     
  26. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    75,122
    37,644
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    New York
    Also...Warriors in 5.
     
  27. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    32,925
    41,464
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    Oh, no? How do you explain this? He had a hand in his face, and didn't even have to watch it go in.



    Joking aside, I think George is worth it. He's not going to be a LeBron, Wade, or Kobe type where he's just going to completely take over a series without any help, but with talent around him I think he can be a Batman. I think he'd actually be a really good fit on the Heat playing with Dragic and Whiteside, but I still think he ends up on the Lakers eventually.
     
    MikeHoncho, Fin-O and Boik14 like this.
  28. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    75,122
    37,644
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    New York
    Lol, I knew someone would bring up the Gatorade commercial but there's fantasy and reality :tongue2:

    I think he's a fine defensive player but if he's your go to scorer in crunchtime I think you have a problem. That's not to say he can't average 20 a game, clearly he can cause he's done it but he doesn't have that go to offensive move and his jumper is a little inconsistent.
     
    sports24/7 likes this.
  29. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

    11,375
    11,392
    113
    Sep 28, 2015
    If Cleveland steals one in GS it's going 7. If not? I agree with 5


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  30. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    32,925
    41,464
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    I think the series is every bit as unpredictable as it's been the last two years. If LeBron goes full cyborg and his teammates play their best, they could very easily win the series. I think that team has more of a killer instinct than the Warriors, which is ironic because LeBron's been hammered for not having that his entire career. The Warriors are the more talented team, and the better defensive team, however. If Cleveland comes out and plays like they did in game 3 and 4 of the ECF, they probably get beat in 5. We'll see.
     
  31. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

    11,375
    11,392
    113
    Sep 28, 2015

    I think how the Warriors come out mentally will be as huge as anything. If they are their arrogant ******* selves then Cle is in trouble. If they look as scared as they did during the last two finals (yes they looked scared, Iggy was the damn MVP) then the Cavs will win the series I think.

    I really think we may have another 7 game series on our hands and what may end up being the best finals rivalry in history.
     
    sports24/7 likes this.
  32. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

    53,148
    31,935
    113
    Nov 23, 2007
    Katy, TX
    My guess the other day was L, L, W, L, W, L.

    So Warriors in 6, but Cavs win one in GS.

    I obviously hope to be very wrong and that Cavs win it all.
     
    Fin-O likes this.
  33. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

    11,375
    11,392
    113
    Sep 28, 2015
    I guess I just struggle to see a healthy Cavs team let them win it all in Cleveland (game 6) which is why I ultimately feel like GS in 7 if an exact guess were to somehow net me a billion dollars or something.

    Looking forward to watching however...will be in LV for games 3-4 then likely Sugar Land TX for the duration. Find me, I'll buy you a Heineken.
     
    Stitches likes this.
  34. BevoPhin

    BevoPhin Well-Known Member

    1,523
    795
    113
    Mar 15, 2013
    He'd be Dions robin bro.
     
    Boik14 likes this.
  35. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

    52,652
    25,565
    113
    Nov 13, 2009
    Against the Pistons no less. Legendary.
     
  36. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    11,681
    10,413
    113
    May 7, 2008
    New Orleans
    The only scenario that would surprise me is Cavs sweeping GSW or winning in 5. I could see the Cavs not winning a single game. Or winning in 6 or 7 games. Hopefully it will be a good series.
     
    Stitches likes this.
  37. BevoPhin

    BevoPhin Well-Known Member

    1,523
    795
    113
    Mar 15, 2013
    Riley brought in 4 bigs in Rabb, Motley, anigbogu, and Bryant.

    Could be looking at replacing Reed to keep JJ and Dion. Or he could still be looking at replacing one of them with a FA.

    We really don't know ****.
     
  38. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    32,925
    41,464
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    I hope he doesn't plan on taking any of those guys at 14. Rabb has some upside, but I think there will be better players there.
     
  39. BevoPhin

    BevoPhin Well-Known Member

    1,523
    795
    113
    Mar 15, 2013

    Who do you want that's supposed to be there? I would really like for lauri to fall.



    This guy ^ might not get drafted but he looks pretty skilled.
     
  40. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    32,925
    41,464
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    Someone unexpected falling could be the best case. Markkanen would be probably ideal, and some people seem to think he could (although maybe not quite to 14). Other than that, there is a big pool of guys I like, and I go back and forth on:

    TJ Leaf - I think people are overthinking it with him. He's a great fit for the Heat offensively, and if any team can fix him defensively, it's Miami.

    Zach Collins - This might be the next best scenario to Markkanen falling. His upside is huge, and while he's listed as a center, he'd be a good 4 for us that complements Whiteside.

    Harry Giles - This is all upside. The Heat don't get many lotto picks, so swinging for the fences with Giles might be worth it. He has as much upside as anyone in the draft, but could also easily be a bust as he was very mediocre this season coming off of another serious knee injury.

    OG Anunoby - On one hand you say you already have a similar player in Winslow, but on the other you think he'll only be there because of injury, and you're doubling down on that type of player hoping one of them develops offensively.

    Donovan Mitchell - He's undersized, but his wingspan is huge and Miami seems to favor length over height anyway. There is some Dwyane Wade to his game as he's a freak athlete that can score, defend, and has shown the ability to shoot the ball as well.

    John Collins - I'm getting more on board with him as time goes on. He was incredibly productive last year, and while some say he's not a fit for today's game because he hasn't shown a consistent jumper, we've seen the Heat develop this area with bigs before. He's a great athlete and a good rebounder, though, and has big time upside.

    Terrance Ferguson - Another boom or bust guy. He has all of the tools, and those are the types worth gambling on. He has good size, athleticism, and ability to shoot the ball (although it's been inconsistent). If he pans out, you could have a star. He's very inconsistent and unproven, though. He played in Australia out of HS and didn't put up very impressive numbers there.

    Justin Jackson - We know Miami likes players that can stretch the floor and that's what you are looking to get if you draft him. He turned into a really good 3pt shooter this year for UNC. I don't know that the upside is great, but maybe he becomes your Danny Green.

    Luke Kennard - Another shooter, although some think he is more than that. Again, he's probably not an upside guy, but he's probably a safe pick who could be a good role player for some time.

    It will come down to does Miami want to swing for the fences, or do they want to play it safe? They could get lucky if someone falls, and do both with a guy like Collins or Markkenen.

    Here is a good article by Barry Jackson, where Rick Pitino talks about some of these options for Miami: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article153129579.html
     

Share This Page