****The Official 2016-2017 NBA Thread****

Hayward announces he will sign with Boston.

 

Hayward to Boston official.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/gordon-hayward-decision-free-agency-nba/amp/

 

Well, that sucks twice. Hopefully it doesn't work out well there, and hopefully Riley has something up his sleeve.

 

32 freaking million per season for gordon hayward ... yea you can have him lol seriously people are overrating him big time..

 

Did you really think it would be less? There was never a doubt that he was getting a max deal. And yes, he was easily worth it. Otto Porter may get the same deal. Tyler Johnson will be making $20M next year. Hayward is an all-star.

Hopefully he regresses, but based off of his track record, he is easily worth that.

 

THIS is a guy that is about to be paid way too much:

 

I've always been partial to Jeff Green.

What about Tyreke Evans?

 

I wouldn't be opposed to Green. He's the type that could come here and have a career year. Evans might be worth a shot too if he's cheap. He has a worrisom injury history, though, so I don't think I'd give him much money, or more than a year.

I still think that other than a trade we don't see coming, the best case scenario would be JJ, Waiters at a reasonable price/length, and Gay. That's a potential 3 seed in a weakened east if things work out.

 

I still wouldn't be shocked if we kicked the tires on LMA to see what SA may want.

Low risk move since he's about 99% certain to opt out next summer but his presence could help. As much as we love Hassan and Dragic I'm not sure what their league wide pull is.

Another thing that may be worth while is to just retain as many assets as possible for the deadline. I'm not convinced the AD/Boogie thing will work, will something crap out in OKC, does Portland blow it up and move Lillard etc?

Patience required

 

Wizards are matching...they're committed to 121m and 123m in guaranteed salary now I believe for the next 2 years.

 

I think Portland would sooner trade McCollum for a more prototypical 2 guard before they trade Lillard.

I think the pull for Hassan would be significantly more even though he has a lower floor. Dragic is a good player but even at his best isn't a top 5 player at his position. Whiteside on the other hand, is a top 5 player at center if you believe he can play to his potential outside of Miami.

 

I meant that Hassan and Dragic aren't necessarily huge free agent draws for players considering Miami

That's something that we haven't had to deal with for a long time as we had Wade. But we'll adjust. Riley always does

 

Patrick Patterson signs in OKC, eliminating them from the Gay market. It looks like it might be down to us and Utah for him.

Tim Reynolds also says Gay has "major interest" in Miami.

 

I'm down with a 1 year deal. Wouldn't go beyond that

 

I'm probably in the minority here but I would trade for Melo. I think it wouldn't take much as people think.

 

I don't think you're in the minority if it's cheap. The problem is, he's only waiving his NTC for Cleveland or Houston right now.

 

Danilo signs with clippers 3 years 65 million and the difference in talent between he and gordon hayward are not that much.

 

How is a guy who isnt even top 20 in PER easily worth it? Hes not even a top 25 player for gods sakes.. getting paid more than lebron and durant..

 

PER isn't the end all be all. If it were, JaVale McGee would deserve more money than Steph Curry. And what LeBron and Durant get isn't mutually exclusive to other players not being worth max deals. Those guys deserve WAY more than they're getting. That's the NBA, though. Good players get max deals. Hell, some mediocre players get max deals (see Otto Porter and Bradley Beal). Gordon Hayward is a legitimate all-star. There was never any doubt that he was getting a max. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Does Whiteside deserve a max? He finished with almost the exact PER that Hayward did. Do Paul George and Andre Drummond? They finished significantly lower.

And the idea that there isn't much difference between Hayward and Gallanari is kind of crazy. Hayward is very much a top 25 player. Gallanari isn't close.

 

Not top 20 in per and ranked 29th in plus minus... stats are definitely not on your side. Im glad we arent the team paying him that money. We can do more with that money aquiring 2-3 verygood players than spending it all on one guy who is just above average, not great. Hes not Nowitzki.

 

Two stats aren't on my side?

Sure, he was 29th in real plus minus. Again, that stat doesn't tell the whole story. Damien Lillard was right above him. Kemba Walker, Paul Geroge, Klay Thompson, John Wall, Karl-Anthony Towns, Kyrie Irving, Hassan Whiteside, and Isaiah Thomas all finished below him (many of those guys much lower). Do they all not deserve a max deal? He was 15th in win shares. 17th in win shares per 48 mins. So some stats are on my side. He played on a team that outside of him and Gobert weren't very talented, and yet still got the 5th seed in the West (almost the 4th).

And even if he truly were the 29th best player in the league, he'd still deserve the Max. That's how the league works. You don't get players like that on the open market for anything less unless they are old. It doesn't matter now, because he's a Celtic, and I hope he does end up making that deal look bad. But the fact that you didn't know this was what Miami was offering him is surprising. There was never a doubt.

 

Then we saved ourselves a giant mistake thank god. If other teams want to pay max to a fringe all star they can go ahead and do that, Miami should only pay that to top players.

 

Bam Adebayo is 3rd in points per game, 1st in rebounds per game, and 3rd in blocks per game, out of all Orlando summer league participants. As per the websites.

When I do on a per 36 minute basis, it gets to be a cloudier picture. Bottom line take Points, Rebounds, Assists, Steals, Blocks, do a ranking of each, sum the ranks...Adebayo has legitimately been the 2nd best statistical performer in Orlando.

Treveon Graham of Charlotte has put together a better statistical program. And I'd keep an eye on Christian Wood of Dallas as he's also put together a great stat performance, though not on nearly as many minutes as Treveon or Bam.

 

Per Tim Reynolds, Cleveland is showing some interest in Udonis Haslem

Oh LeBron....just come back. It's ok. We forgive you

 

Just so you know. Every time I say his name, I say it Emeril-style.

 

I've already called the inevitable "KaBam!" for when he's playing real games.

 

What's Cleveland want him for to play 30 seconds the whole season?

 

I wonder if the Heat have built any cred with Jared Sullinger's agent by being willing to meet with him back in March. That agent reps Jeff Green as well. Like I said I've always been partial to Green, for obvious reasons, but also because I think he's pretty good.

But overall I didn't realize Rudy Gay is coming off a January Achilles tear. I'm not sure I really want in for that. At that point I'll just take Tyreke Evans and focus on getting him to play his best ball.

 

Evans has missed 99 games over the past two seasons. I'm not sure he's any safer.

 

Woj says Waiters is near a resolution. He's considering the Heat, Knicks and Lakers.

 

Priority has to be Waiters obviously.

I think Okaro White is ready to play more anyway so I'm not sure how much I'd be in a hurry to add some of the guys we've been talking about.

 

Frank Asshola thinks Waiters is just using the Knicks to leverage the Heat.

 

I'm partial toward just keeping Wayne Ellington despite his $6 million salary. But if the money really is that important then I don't see why not just rent Mike Dunleavy for a year.

 

Good news. We'll see on the terms.

 

Dion is coming back.. As per Woj.

 

4 year deal for Dion

 

I'm guessing an option is included after year 2 or 3. Waiters is only two months older than me so he's going to want to cash again if he truly believes in himself (which his shot selection proves).