.....and I'd like to make sure I understood. He said Cutler wants to play fast, no huddle. Is this the offense we attempted when we were 1-4 last year, moved to a huddle and got successful? So were we unsuccessful because the no huddle was a bad choice, Tannehill didn't feel right or execute it, or better said, are we a better huddle team? And if Cutler can go no huddle, I assume this is the offense he wants to run on a usual basis?
I'm not sure it was Tannehill that was behind. I specifically remember him realigning receivers presnap a couple times during the earlier games last season (before the switch).
Yeah, and having to realign players was slowing everything down, hence Gase referring to his rhythm being affected.
I might be wrong, but what I believe JC likes is to line up quick so he can read the D and make plays from there....
As a big RT supporter, I do believe he was the reason they went back to the huddle. Yes, there may have been other players too, but I think QB's like Cutler, Brady, Manning etc are able to get their guys lined up right and RT wasn't. Now, could he have been better this year? My guess would be yes.
I would respectfully disagree. I dont think that Tannehill was the issue with the no huddle per se. I think it was simply too much for the whole offense to grasp since they were working with a completely new system. They were all too slow operating it, having to think too much. No a year in and they all have a better grasp of what they need to be doing.
First year in a new offensive system. Cutler has the advantage of having most players around him knowing what to do now, not having to "stop and think" about it. Too Late: What Tin Indian said. To be fair, I forgot to post my comment earlier, when I got distracted by work.
Wait, did you take something Bob Griese said on a pre season broadcast seriously? LOL, I cringe when I listen to these guys. Dick Stockton kept referring to Wentz as the #1 overall pick.
I go to attacked for saying this but my Point was, it wasn't an indictment. He just learned a new offense. Weddle says he's not Rivers, Manning, Rodgers etc. Well of course not. Those guys are experienced. My position was, Gase all but confirmed they simplified the offense and that it was a lot on EVERYONE's plate including Tanny. It was more of an indictment of Gase than any player. Too much too soon. Now, if it's year 2-3 and they're not getting it then you start looking at the players.
I remember the debate. I think if the other guys would have been able to get lined up RT would have been fine. However, some in the offense didn't pick it up quickly and it was too much for RT to handle
Some more knowledgeable (than me) folks about schemes said that the offense itself was stripped down. We were running very basic concepts last year. Those same knowledgeable folks also mentioned that some of it was added back in when Moore came in ...
Might have been both. Was RT getting into the right play fast enough etc. Nobody really knows except them but we're way past that point now so we'll never know
I heard about RT taking some plays out of the playbook because he didn't want to run them. But, IMO, that's different than Gase stripping down the offense. If some in the know did say Gase purposely stripped down the playbook then I either missed it or forgot about it. Regardless, slowing down the offense may help the players having a hard time learning the offense, but it also helps out the defense. If they can all get on the same page and/or Cutler can get everybody lines up the no huddle offense will be better.
It wasn't just passing or RT. I think I read we abused the crap out of one rule of run scheme all year. It kept working and they kept running it.
jdang, danmarino You two could very well be right, I'm just going off of anecdotal memory. I just remember a specific play where RT was about to snap the ball when Stills came up to him behind center and RT sent him out wide. I don't remember which game it was. No huddle can be self-defeating when it takes as much time getting everybody lined up outside the huddle, then it does just telling them where to be at the beginning of a play while in the huddle. Not really sure, and I don't think it's worth speculating. I wonder how much no huddle JC ran with Gase in 2015. That would be interesting to look at.
Part of that last season was that the receivers weren't comfortable in the no-huddle, Tannehill struggled to get everyone set at times and just too many mistakes happened. This offense was built for no-huddle/up tempo but we couldn't execute worth a darn in live games.
