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****Official Saints vs Phins Game Thread****

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dirtylandry, Sep 26, 2017.

  1. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    Anyone hear if Timmons will make the trip?
     
  2. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    they did find him at LAX maybe he was just getting ready for the flight early!!!
     
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  3. Seadog

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    I wouldn't expect to see Timmons in a Dolphin uniform ever at this point...
     
  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Gase no nos happy..

    Cant rely on Cutler outplaying the hall of fame on the other side.

    this is gonna have to be a team thing..

    better start playing angry.
     
  5. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    gear up
     
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  6. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if part of the personnel changes Gase indicated after poor performances was the Timmons move? In other words, Gase would have held him out longer, but his hand was forced?
     
  7. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    I think he was talking about the offence but in saying that If the phins would have beaten the jets I wouldn't think timmons would be playing this week.
    This smells like desperation to me.Lose this week and with this schedule coming up it we would be in big trouble.
    In saying that I am glad he is back because the current linebackers on this team can't cover for ****!
     
  8. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    you are right, the next three games are rough. This team is capable of catching fire. We saw that last year. If they can get right-sided against the Saints that will help a lot. Falcons probably will blow us out
     
  9. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Timmons was re-instated and traveling with the team. He most likely is playing. That's a good thing.
     
  10. phins18

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    the saints are absolutely gonna light up our defense. Hopefully the offense comes to play cause their defense isnt great either.
     
  11. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    My hunch is Timmons is not that smart, is a crazed dog at heart, and his words and actions in Pittsburgh have been misinterpreted as serious.
     
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  12. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Stop holding the whole "Florida State U" thing against him. :shifty:
     
  13. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    I personally think we are going to win sunday.
     
  14. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    Cheap shot. lol
     
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  15. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Dolphins win 34-17.
     
  16. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    why?
     
  17. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    why?
     
  18. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    'Cause I said so! Duh... @djphinfan my brother. :mullet1:
     
  19. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    I feel the offence is going to show up this week and ajay runs for a 150 plus and the timmons led D makes just enough plays to win the game.
     
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  20. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Looking at Cutler's stats, he never seems to have 3 bad games in a row. He was "meh" against the Chargers and bad against the jets. His history suggests he should have a good game.

    OL needs to step up so we can get Ajayi going. We put up 200 on the ground against better teams last season.

    Cutler should benefit from that and play at least no worst than he did against the Chargers. If the Defense can get pressure on Brees, we can win this one. Getting Timmons and Phillips back should help the defense.
     
  21. cbrad

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    Well.. statistically he wasn't bad against the Chargers: 72.7% completion percentage, 1 TD no INT's and a 101.8 rating.

    If you're looking for a 3-game stretch where he was worse statistically speaking than against the Jets, you can try his 2010 season games 4-6 where he had a 40.7 rating, 69.4 rating and a 54.3 rating in 3 consecutive games:
    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CutlJa00/gamelog/2010/
     
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  22. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Hench the "meh" and the "seems".

    That also "seems" a bit anomalous, even for him, considering it was 8 seasons ago. Let's hope he has a career game against the Saints.
     
  23. Rickysabeast

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    Season hangs on this one. Really does. If we can't find our groove on this one season is out the window.
     
  24. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    At one point we were 1-4 just last season. We then won 6 in a row.

    Surely, you and Dirty can put a new wheel on the Cutler band wagon. :tongue2:
     
  25. Bpk

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    The level of disinterest in our game threads is weird considering we made the playoffs last year.

    A week or two ago it was the day before the game before we even had a game thread.

    This team really needs to do something to excite the fanbase.
     
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  26. Fin D

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    Its been 3 weeks and only two games that neither were fun to watch and no home game yet. Not too mention, there's been 3 natural disasters in that same amount of time and that sort of thing dampers people's spirits overall. It is a sort of fatigue.
     
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  27. bigballa2102

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    In all honesty I think a lot of people expect mediocrity and a missed playoff after the first 2 games, nothing that was on the field looked like it could beat a contender right now im skeptical we can even come second in the east.
     
  28. DrAstroZoom

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    My gut tells me the Dolphins could win this going away. Defense gets some key cogs back, and Ajayi will be a wrecking ball.
     
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  29. Since the game is being played in London, England ajayi will be pumped up to play in this game, that will kick start the team overall. The OL will be much better than last week and the defense will be ready with tighter coverage.
     
  30. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    Who died and made Dirtylandry the "official" Official Game Thread starter???
     
  31. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Well it used to be they were made the day of/night before. He makes them after the current game so that he can be the one to make them.

    Also, people usually would post game time, channel, weather, etc. for the game and often a little blurb getting people hyped. That's gone now too.

    And after a loss, a new person would often do it to not jinx anything. I guess that's no more either.
     
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  32. DHitchens

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    Also, he's good for four games of every 16 like last week's or worse on average throughout his career. One should expect four such games this year if he starts all 16.

    The good news is that the other 12 should be expected to be better.
     
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  33. DHitchens

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    I think that's more likely to be players like Julius Thomas and Byron Maxwell, and I think there's a good chance that one or both of them is made an example of by being cut.
     
  34. cbrad

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    Interesting! That's true. In fact, that's EXACTLY true (for regular season).

    Cutler had a 70.3 rating last game, and the 25% cut-off point if our level of precision is a 10th of a passer rating point is at 70.3!! To be specific, 24.82% of all Cutler's PR's are at or below 70.3 while that number jumps to 25.53% if the cut-off is at 70.4. So 70.3 is the cut-off point if your level of precision is a 10th of a passer rating point.

    50% (49.65%) of Cutler's passer rating numbers are at or below 88.7, and 75% (75.18%) of his PR are at or below 101.7.

    So in summary, 1/4 of Cutler's PR are expected to be at or below 70.3, 1/4 are between 70.4 and 88.7, 1/4 are between 88.8 and 101.7, and 1/4 are at or above 101.8.

    And you know what's really interesting? His PR for the Chargers game was .. 101.8 lol. So his 2 passer ratings so far this year are precisely at the boundaries of the upper 1/4 and lower 1/4 of his career regular season passer ratings!
     
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  35. DHitchens

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    And I don't think you'd find much difference with Ryan Tannehill. I know for a fact, for example, that Tannehill's career percentage of games as poor as or worse than Cutler's last week is 22, which isn't meaningfully different from Cutler's career percentage.

    Both QBs are good for about four games of 16 that are as poor as or worse than Cutler's last week.
     
  36. cbrad

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    There's not much difference that's correct. Maybe it's easiest to just show a graph of the probabilities of each QB getting different passer ratings (each point in the graph is the probability of getting a passer rating within a 10 PR interval):

    [​IMG]

    In case anyone is interested in hard numbers for Tannehill comparable to those I posted for Cutler in post #34, 1/4 of Tannehill's PR's are at or below 73.4, 1/4 are between 73.5 and 86.4, 1/4 are between 86.5 and 98.8, and 1/4 are at or above 98.9.
     
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  37. DHitchens

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    Roughly the same class of quarterback. Interesting, though, how Cutler's graph is more bimodal, indicating less consistency. He's going to either win or lose the game for you, whereas Tannehill is going to more consistently manage the game, neither winning nor losing it himself, and thereby make wins and losses dependent on how the rest of the team and the opposing team function. Such is the difference between the gunslinger and the game manager.

    And I'd say that's happened already this year. Cutler won game one, and lost game two.
     
  38. Hertsseasider

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    Good Morning from the UK. Raining at the moment but expected to clear up. 85,000 fans due, the majority cheering The Phins
     
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  39. brandon27

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    I'm concerned with how Miami is going to come out and play this week. Sure, we got stomped last week, and you'd expect this team, if it's a good team to come out and play well. However, just our luck our stomping comes before the London game, and we decided not to go over the London until Friday? I've got concerns how much energy these guys are going to have with jet lag and all, and having a busy schedule promoting this thing the last few days. Hopefully it doesnt affect them, but I have this feeling it's going to.
     
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  40. Fin-O

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    I feel like this team will come out much more inspired than last week. However, we will need to be inspired and effective to score with Drew Brees.

    Watching Josh McCown find holes in our coverage with ease, has me pessimistic N.O won't score at least 24 points.
     

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