***Official Titans and Phins Game Thread***

Make no mistake. We aren't winning anything with this offense playing this way.

But my point remains, we are only respectable on offense, when JA plays well.

 

Burke took a lot of heat heat early on.. I think he's doing a good job, he's fixed the obvious problem in the run d, and dropping max for tank is a big call that has been vindicated. Kudos coach.

 

Miami's defense though.

Send em all on vacation one week for a bye (with Ajayi). They've earned it. Make the offense do double duty for a week. It's not like they've spent any energy so far.

 

It started out very much like last year. Miami's D has been playing relatively well all season. There are some hiccups, but that's to be expected. D is playing really good.

* On another note, just saw Reshad Jones calling Gase a "great general" and feels like he will get the O turned around.

The CBS post-game guys are basically in agreement regarding Cutler: he needs to step it up.

 

Slight caveat...Ajayi doesn't run well when he's getting hit at or behind the los. That's been a major problem for the run game this season.

 

!00%.

Dude has had zero holes.

Last year at least the run blocking was good. Now? They aren't doing anything right.

 

Changes are easy to say, but hard to implement when we lost our starting QB and talked a washed up hack out of retirement. The annoying thing is that this just futher illustrates how little Matt Moore brings to the team. If you're not going to play him when your starter goes down, then he shouldn't be on the roster to start with. Same with Doughty.

But this is par for the course with this team. We've ignored QB for the past 20 years with the exception of drafting Tannehill, but then we surrounded him with incompetence.

We also lost our starting LG, in Ted Larsen. As for the defense, last year, the Defense was hobbled with injuries most of the year and we were signing hacks off the street. So far, that's not the case. AND we're getting very good play from our rookies - Harris, Tankersley, Godchaux, Taylor, and our UDFAs - Allen and Haack.

 

Cutler is not playing that bad. Sure he is not a marino or rodgers that can carry the team on his shoulders, but he is not the biggest or even second biggest problem with the offense. The biggest problem is very bad play calling by gase, especially early in games. The second biggest problem is very bad oline play both in run and pass blocking. The third biggest problem is recievers not getting seperations and dropping several passes. Cutler does have a problem throwing under pressure, his accuracy and decision making go to **** when he is being pressured, but overall he has actually not played that bad. When the oline protects him and when they run play action he has done very well.

 

And thomas as well. Guys were dropping everything today.

 

Cutler is not the biggest problem on offense. Bad playcalling and very bad oline play are the main culprits. When gase calls the right plays and the oline holds up (and the recievers dont drop passes) Cutler does pretty well. He is only playing poorly and making bad decisions when he is under pressure.

 

There were tons of holes in all four games- this was the first time Ajayi was hitting them though (he's been bouncing outside instead). The problem is not the blocking...it's that we can't do a thing except run off guard or throw a screen pass. And you cover both the same way, you stack the box and take that option away.

Ajayi has been sensational despite defenses keying him on every play. That's a big difference from "zero holes".

 

He was under pressure on basically every single throw today...

 

Cutler's movement in the pocket though.

 

Zero holes may be hyperbole, but the run blocking (and pass blocking) have been bad.

 

His movement is step backwards scared to be hit.

 

Hey come on now. Sometimes he steps to the left, sometimes to the right.

 

Either way, this team isn't nearly as good on offense as any of us fans thought. Our win total was O/U 8....everyone knew but us.

 

I guess it's not detectable. Last two comments were tongue-in-cheek.

 

No he was not. On the play action throws he was not under pressure. On the TD pass he was not under pressure. His performance under pressure vs not under pressure is lile night and day.

When he feels the pressure he starts to panic, stops surveying the field, starts worring more about surviving than making a good throw and ends up throwing off balance to the first guy he sees out of the corner of his eye.

 

Cutler may evade sacks relatively well, but he rarely makes a play when he does evade them, he is wildly inaccurate while throwing on the run. Basically, if a defense can force Cutler to move too much, they've done their job. 90% of the time, it'll be incomplete or a throw away.

Honestly, makes it pretty simple for the defense, especially since our OL is playing badly.

 

Well, maybe I define pressure different from you. There were a ton of plays where he wasn't "technically" under pressure since everyone was blocked, but he still side-stepped the pocket, dropped back a yard and then rolled towards the sidelines. Is that pressure? No. But it's the exact same thing as being under pressure.

I agree with you though, he looks flustered out there on the few downs we do try to go downfield. He does slide effortlessly but I still think he's out of shape and just not making smart decisions.

 

Is Cutler THE SOLE problem? No.
Is Cutler A problem? Yes.
Is Cutler exacerbating the problems? Yes.

That INT before the half was as stupid a decision as any Cutler has made in his career - and he's made a ton. He's jumpy in the pocket, his timing is off, his accuracy and placement are scattershot. His lazy *** walking to the huddle and getting us ready is apathetic. He cost us 2 timeouts.

Make all the excuses you want. He's terrible. If the defense hadn't scored or forced turnovers today, we lose today to a Matt Cassell led team.

 

Does anyone know where I can find full dolphins highlights for today's game? The teams main website has 3 plays and NFL.com I found nothing! Every other team has some highlights but since we haven't been relevant until last year why would we expect them to show our highlights since we're not cheaters or cowboys

 

When I go here, the highlights autoplay
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/20171...gameinfo|contentId:0ap3000000858356&tab=recap

 

Like this...?


or more this?

 

Just go on youtube, type in miami dolphins, should come right up.

 

Thanks bpk, hitman8 I will check out you tube as well.

Thanks to you both.

 

No idea how anyone has watched him over 4 games and is still making excuses or blaming others.

Cutler was 12 of 26 for 92 yards, a TD and one of the most idiotic and panicked INTs anyone has ever seen. Screw his "pocket presence". He's simply looking to run as soon as the ball is snapped instead of going thru progressions. Jumpy Jay is terrible. Even when he "escapes" the pocket he rarely makes a positive play with the ball. Usually he just throws it away.

His decisions are garbage most of the time.

Separation? You mean after they've ran their routes while waiting on him to stop and wing an off-target pass? Please. Give these guys a better QB who can hit them in stride or on target and they'll magically have better separation.

 

Yes cutler does get jumpy and panicks, but he is usally good when he has a clean pocket and the right play is called.

He is not going to win games for us on his own thats for sure, but if the other parts of the offense do their job Jay is perfectly capable of doing his as well.

There were about 4 drops in today's game and the playcalling was idiodic as usual.

Cutler is not the solution, but he is not the problem either.

 

There were drops, but they mostly were on very off target balls. Catchable? Sure, cause receivers got their hands on them, but they were extremely poorly placed.

 

No, Cutler is not "usually good". This guy has never played winning football anywhere his entire career as a pro or at Vandy. He's been a loser with a cannon for an arm that makes bad decisions at every level. His highest rating ever for a season was a 92 in 2015 with Gase, and he's been to the playoffs once in a season where he threw 23 TDs, 16 INTs, and 10 fumbles. If the Bears hadn't had great back in Forte and a Top 5 Defense, they wouldn't have that year either.

What 4 drops? I saw 1 by Landry and 1 by Stills on a low, slow floater he had to go into the ground for. Everything else was a challenge to catch as he was so late on throws or off-target. And as James Lofton point out in the game - he doesn't set up and throw and ball is so late and slow getting there as there's nothing on it, and the DBs are able to make plays on it.

The play calling would improve if Jumpy Jay could take time out of his busy schedule to get back to the LOS and get a play off before the clock runs out - then, IDK, hit a receiver with timing and accuracy.

Ajayi is never going to be able to run when Jay can't force defenses to respect his game. As it is, they know they own space in his head and that he's a coward to stand and deliver the ball.