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Adam Gase Spills His Guts

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  1. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2017/10/27/what-miami-dolphins-adam-gase-said-friday/

    What an angry Adam Gase said Friday about Miami Dolphins not studying assignments

    VIA HAL HABIB

    What Dolphins coach Adam Gase said Friday following Thursday night’s 40-0 rout by the Baltimore Ravens:

    • On simplifying the system vs. oversimplifying: “We’re not putting the work in. Guys should take this stuff home and study it. We’ve got to find guys who will actually put forth effort. Really it starts with our best players.”
    • “I’m done compromising with anybody.”
    • On offensive line: “To me it comes down to more than just offensive line. Majority of the time the line knows where to go and what to do. Running backs, we never blocked the right guy.”
    • On Jay Cutler: “He’s playing” vs. Oakland. He could have played last week.
    • On runs: “We’ve got to stop trying to hit home runs all the time. It’s on the running back. Do your job. It’s not hard to do.”
    • Gase says he has been addressing issues with players not studying enough for “two years.” Says he’s fed up with it.
    • On Michael Thomas: “He’s a true pro. He gives everything he has on special teams and when he gets thrown in on defense he knows what to do.”
    • On Kiko Alonso hit: “That’s a tough one. I know Kiko was in a tough spot because he’s running for the first down.” Says Joe Flacco’s slide “was not a true slide you see. It’s a tough play to tell a guy what to do.” Says if Flacco did get a first down, “We go, what are you doing?”
    • Says DeVante Parker didn’t play because he knew it would be a physical game.
    • Possibility G Ted Larsen may practice this week.
    • OL Anthony Steen’s foot injury will mean he’ll be out “a while.” Steen had surgery.
    • On 4-3 record: “The whole process is about correcting mistakes you make. When you win, what happens is everybody brushes it under the rug and everybody tells you how great you are.”
    • “We’ve been embarrassed three times in three losses.” Says that validates the things Gase has been harping on.
    • Says defense and special teams players are studying but offensively “it’s a joke. We’ve got too many guys who don’t want to take it home with them.” Again points to team’s “best players.”
    • “I’m pissed. I’m tired of this. I’m tired of the offense being awful. Guys better get their heads right.”
    • “We’re the worst offense in football. It’s hard to go lower than that.”
     
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  2. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    Gase seems to want to lay the blame on the players not studying for the last two years? What the F man you are the head coach you should have made sure a long time ago that these guys knew the offense or else you should have booted them out the door. Grow some balls and stop trying to play patty cake with the players.

    I hate that he keeps trying to take blame off of the offensive line and shift it toward the running backs. The problem is not ajayi or the running backs the problem is you dont know how to design and call good running plays and this oline is made up of mostly soft pansy fatt asses who can't block worth a damn and need somebody to light a fire under their asses. Gase is obviously not the guy for that all he does is cover asses and pat them on the back instead.
     
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  3. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    Some of that comes across to me as, "I'm calling the right plays (or whoever calls them) but the players don't know what to do OR don't execute properly." which is disturbing. This is the SECOND year in this offense for most of the players. Gase should have been getting this corrected well before training camp was over.

    Still, I'm willing to see how things go the rest of the season. Gase deserves a chance to get things turned around and learn some lessons as a new head coach. He HAS to be willing to learn and change himself though, or he'll never be a great head coach.
     
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  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think when Ryan went down so did the accountability... that dude definitely studies his sh##
     
  5. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Wow that quote on devante parker is all you need to know... id package him and a conditional pick to pitt for martavis and see if they bite
     
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  6. Dolphin North

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    Just to give the rest of the story and not to make excuses, because I really don't care either way:
    Parker is fragile, I am not going to make stuff up. But just to clarify, he wanted to play. What Gase said was that Parker practiced at the "highest tempo", but since he was not tested in practice (I think he means physically tested as far as contact) Gase decided to keep him out as he knew it would be a particularly physical game outside. Remember, Gase was calling the offense out as a whole in that very same conversation and he did call Parker out last year about taking care of himself and on his willingness to play through pain. He does have skinny legs (the lower legs) and he will probably always be vulnerable to a degree, but Gase not calling him out on his toughness and maturity this time tells me there may be improvement.
    Again, I am just passing along what he is saying. I don't really care about Parker or any of these players at this point. If I kept Parker past his rookie contract what I would not do is dump a whole lot of money into him if he keeps missing a handful of games each year. You have to be able to count on major contributors if he becomes one.
     
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  7. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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    I could be wrong but I believe the original statement should read more like:
    • Says DeVante Parker didn’t play because he (Gase) knew it would be a physical game.
    I don't believe Parker benched himself because he didn't want to play in a physical game. Seems like Gase did not want to risk re-injury.
     
  8. Dolphin Dundee

    Dolphin Dundee Well-Known Member

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    Sorry coach..Dog ate my homework.
     
  9. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    LMAO @ getting rid of players.

    You still have to field a team. There's not some plethora of quality players just sitting around waiting for Gase to call them up.
     
  10. tirty8

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    Any guesses as to the names of players that are not studying?
     
  11. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    if I had to guess based on last nights performance I’d say all of them.
     
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  12. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    and when Branden Albert left..he was the leader not pouncey.
     
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  13. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Definitely an indictment of Parker's toughness or lackthereof.
     
  14. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Right. You have Pouncey as a vet leader, and up until a week ago, a cokehead as your oline boss.

    I find it hard to believe any of them are studying.

    I wonder if Moore is. Maybe that's why Gase didn't feel comfortable with him running the team after Tannehill went down. I really wonder about the receivers.
     
  15. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    The QB room has never been the problem - which includes Moore.

    If you want to argue Moore's game-related limitations are what he wasn't comfortable with that's completely fair game
     
  16. KeyFin

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    Translation-

    1) The offensive line is "good enough" if the skill players would do what they're supposed to do.

    2) Gase really doesn't like Moore for whatever reason (which is evident in what he didn't say).

    3) Ajayi is freelancing way too much instead of hitting the darn hole.

    4) Landry is running the wrong routes quite often. So has Stills to a lesser extent.

    5) Parker is a freaking sissy that needs to be babied.

    6) Get ready to see a lot more of Carroo, Grant and several other benchwarmers on offense. Only, Carroo can't memorize the darn playbook either...which is why we're pretending Thomas is a WR1 lately.

    7) Look for Landry or Carroo to be traded before the deadline next week if effort doesn't change dramatically in the next few days (that's from a different interview saying some players may not be on the team anymore).

    8) This is all Gase's fault for not blasting folks after superficial wins.
     
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  17. Fin D

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    I think #5 could be taken two completely different ways. I'm not saying I think it was one way and not the other...just that it could be taken two different ways.
     
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  18. Dolphin North

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    Gase said that Parker wanted to play.
    Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/s...y-jackson/article181319641.html#storylink=cpy
    To me that is not an indictment. That tells me that even with the mood Gase must be in right now he sees Parker responding to being called out last year. That would be a guy I would keep around if he can avoid missing too many games, as I said above. Either way it would not be an indictment of his toughness.
     
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  19. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I thought about it both ways as well....but then I thought about the conditioning issues last season AND him getting hurt twice this season already. You could be right, he's just protecting his best receiver (on paper), but I have a feeling that he was being calculating there. Maybe not.
     
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  20. KeyFin

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    You guys could be right....he also said "our best players" when talking about people who didn't know the plays. If DeVante was out hurt and didn't stick his nose in the new playbook, then there would be no reason to play him.

    Remember, Gase didn't call anyone out by name....although we know the comment was at least partially aimed at Landry for the bad routes and Ajayi for not hitting the assigned holes.
     
  21. Dolphin North

    Dolphin North Well-Known Member

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    Williams for missing blocking assignments, not that he is one of our best, but that doesn't mean the non best are all prepared either.
    I'm pretty sure Mike Pouncey would be one too. Ever notice how the line usually responds when he is out injured? Sometimes the backup gets physically dominated, but the line as a whole has less "whiffs" IIRC.
     
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  22. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    "I'm pissed. I'm tired of this. I'm tired of the offense being awful," Gase said. "Guys better need to get their heads right. Coaching staff needs to do a better job, because obviously our players not knowing [what to do] is a direct reflection of them."

    Gase was most upset about the study habits of the players on offense.

    "We're not putting the work in," he said. "That's what it comes down to. If you can't remember it, you shouldn't be in the NFL. At the end of the day, guys have got to actually take this stuff home and study it. They're not going to just learn it all in meetings. We've got to find guys that'll actually put forth effort to actually remember this stuff, and it starts with our best players."

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...d-coach-miami-dolphins-says-offense-worst-nfl
     
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  23. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    As much as it pains me, Miami NEEDED this azz whipping. Going into Thursday night's game, Miami was 4-2...BARELY. We showed sparks in a 17-0 deficit against the Falcons and down 14 against the Jets but let's be honest, we were being manhandled in those games and after remarkable comebacks, we had players saying "Quit doubting us". Well the doubt is well founded and it showed Thursday.

    I'm glad to see Gase angry. I'm glad to see him calling players out. I'm glad to see him calling himself and the coaching staff out. After last season's miraculous turnaround, I think everyone just assumed the work had been done and the Dolphins were going to surf the wave of last year's euphoria right into the playoffs again. Well that ride into the playoffs last year came with some hard freaking work.

    As I recall, Gase had one of these moments last season and the 6 game winning streak followed. With a mini-bye, I hope to God the Dolphins get their heads out of their butts and put in the work needed to be a winning football team. The defense has been playing relatively well (until Thursday) but the offense has GOT to get it in gear. I said previously that if the offense played HALF as well as the defense, we could very well be undefeated.

    We'll see if this tangent by Gase is the wake-up call Miami needs or if it divides the team. Hopefully the former but if it ends up being the latter, then certain players need to go. The Dolphins as a team SHOULD be embarrassed and if certain players & coaches aren't, then they are part of the problem.
     
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  24. Walter

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    LOL

    Gase going through some major changes ...now theres a surprise...... hey its not even near the first time we seen this kind of bazaar realization of the crap his team is in..... Hey I'd give a guy a shot but after a while enough is enough...

    Players aren't smart enough ? .......Pretty creative never heard that one before.... looks like the coaches might have a living example right before their eyes of their own problem..... ( but then I'm just a fan who knows nothing, which might not be a worse spot to start from ....again)

    How much and how often do some of you need to see this kind of confusion to realize its just not acceptable ?

    and personally I like the man...but he's just not even near ready to run a team and needs a lot more experience...
     
  25. Brasfin

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    I'd guess Landry, Ajayi, Pouncey, Tunsil and Thomas are definitely a few of them. Stills I think might be the only WR who puts in the effort, he's the guy Gase usually praises and the one who's made the most plays lately.
     
  26. seekerone

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    You just don't see the really good teams resting on their laurels. They come prepared each week. They have their regular playbook that may or may not be better than ours, and typically several tweaked plays designed to take advantage of weaknesses they find in our game tapes. Baltimore defensive line was playing like this was their superbowl. And our offensive line was not up for the challenge. Good teams take games like that and realize how important they are and find the GUTS and DISCIPLINE to take advantage. Great teams, do that week in and week out, regardless of last week's performance. Thought we had that figured out last season. Coaches and captains need to constantly remind players every day. But when it gets to be tedious, they don't want to listen. But they HAVE to. That is the difference in DISCIPLINE you need to succeed. You can tell when they've worked hard. They can come out and play right up to the end with the best team's in the league, and then lay down with their skirts up against teams like Baltimore and the Jets.
     
  27. Destroyer

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    This feels like the team is out of his control and he's just looking to place blame.
     
  28. Walter

    Walter Well-Known Member

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    Thats because it is that way.....now theres a shocker !...
     
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  29. Dolphin Dundee

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    Sounds like Philbin in the locker Room...What do mean guys aren't studying do they not test them on these things and run these plays in practice? Pure cop out if you ask me blaming everybody else because they can't execute his crappy screens.
     
  30. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I don't think Gase wants those crappy screens. I think he runs them because players can't execute the plays he wants to run.
     
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  31. Deus ex dolphin

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    Then you send out a two TE set and hand the ball off to Ajayi. Vary that with play-action when they stack the line and throw deep to the single covered guy. Or a 10 yd crossing route to Jarvis while rolling Cutler/Moore to the side he is running toward. Hammering the defense with Ajayi will pay off in the fourth quarter -even if you gain little to no yards at first.

    Or just run the bubble screen yet again for a two yd loss and hope the next one you call will somehow gain 8-10 yds..... and complain that the players are not 'executing' or understanding the offense.
     
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  32. Kud_II

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    It starts with personnel, and frankly, management needs to be fired, whoever is making the decisions in the draft room (Tannebaum?) needs to be fired. We've whiffed in the draft almost every time. Occasionally we get semi-lucky with a guy like Tankersley, who looks promising, but we're mostly whiffing in draft after draft.

    I used to want to put the blame on Gase, but it's hard to do that with the teams he has to work with. WIth that said, I don't think Gase should be HC and OC. He is young and he needs to focus on one aspect (HC) and oversee the other if need be. He also needs to get over his marriage to Cutler (I know more is not much better if at all) and the entire FIN Fan base is probably missing Tannehill right now, and probably regretting hating on him.

    IMO, GM(s) OUT, FIRED. Get on it STEPHEN ROSS.
    IMO GASE NEXT YEAR IS THE LAST YEAR YOU HAVE TO PROVE YOURSELF(This team needs to be prepared to play 60 minutes EVERY game NO EXCEPTIONS, if a player isn't willing to do it I DONT CARE IF IT's SUH, you BENCH HIS ***! I agree with Gase in that sentiment and that's one reason I want to give him a fair shake. Don't want to put the best effort in? Next man UP.
     
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  33. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Yeah...i don't think running into 9 guys is going to be all that effective.
     
  34. dirtylandry

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    Ted Larsen to save the season? GTFO. Parker cant play bc it is too physical? Get him out too. The team is a reflection of Gase.
     
  35. Galant

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  36. finsfandan

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    And who brought in that cokehead? Who benefitted from Ajayi carrying him last year despite barley giving him touches at first? Who benefitted from having Peyton Manning as his QB? Gase is a joke.
     
  37. danmarino

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