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I will answer my original thread

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dirtylandry, Oct 29, 2017.

  1. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    i posted a thread on who you would want if you fired Gase. No one answered. So I will. Go and get Harbaugh or Fischer. They both are in the crossroads in their college careers. Jimbo is a qb guru if we were to crap the bed. Ross loves Harbaugh and He has the street cred to turn this team around. Harbaugh could fix us quicker.
     
  2. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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    Gase isn’t getting fired soooo....
     
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  3. Dolphin Dundee

    Dolphin Dundee Well-Known Member

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    Yeh Fischer did great with the Rams..
     
  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    we’ll see how his team responds here in 7 days... he took a bold stance, not sure I’ve seen it before but I believe it takes tremendous discipline if your going to try and win here in Miami, so I’m open to doing some things in a unconventional way...

    I look at like this... if I’m not one of the guys I’m not worried... but if I am I better check myself, and if I’m not willing to do that then his approach will find players who have the right makeup for this town
     
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  5. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Fisher isn’t any better he’s career record is slightly over 500 if I’m correct. Gase isn’t going to be fired he gets 2 more years before the hot seat.
     
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  6. Dolphin North

    Dolphin North Well-Known Member

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    I didn't answer because I couldn't think of anyone and I didn't think Gase was getting fired. I also didn't know we could hire people who would never come here because they have better options all day long. But if we are playing fantasy land I wouldn't mind Harbaugh, sure.
     
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  7. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    LOL. Gase isn't going anywhere.
     
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  8. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I didn't answer because that nonsense started when we were 4-2. Maybe you would have better luck on the Patriots thread- they were 4-2 as well with two lousy games on offense. Belichick definitely deserves to be fired for that.

    As a matter of fact, every team in the NFL has at least two losses. Every head coach should be fired for that nonsense!
     
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  9. jw3102

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    Harbaugh is overrated and has never won anything. In fact his Michigan team has regressed every year he has been there. They are no better than the 5th or 6th best team in the Big Ten this year.

    Now if you are referring to his brother John and not the overrated Jim, I would have no problem with John being the next head coach if Gase is fired, which isn’t going to happen. John is a far better head coach than Jim.

    As far as Jimbo Fischer is concerned. He is nothing more than a mediocre college head coach who
    many of the fans at FSU would love to see fired after the terrible job he has done this season. Why you think he would be an effective HC in the NFL is beyond me?

    Saban and Spurrier are and were much better college head coaches then Fischer and neither of them
    were effective as NFL head coaches. Jimbo Fischer wouldn’t last more than one season in the NFL, IMO.
     
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  10. CanGasePlaybook

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    I doubt Gase will last 2 more seasons at this rate. I have a feeling that we are about to go on a losing streak. If that happens and with Gase throwing all of the blame on the players and not his BS gameplan, I’d bet that he loses that locker room. Gase’s system is the problem.
     
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  11. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    Miami and Cleveland think they are smarter than the rest of the 30 teams. Let me explain, Clev believes stockpiling picks and taking a qb with less risk than the 1st round is the way to build a team. Miami believes that offensive linemen can be purchased anywhere and there should be no qb competition. Tell me what these two teams have accomplished in the past 15 years?
     
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  12. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    how can it require so much studying? Cutler was supposed to know the playbook and you are returning basically all your starters. Is he referring to his non-starters, like Carroo and Grant? I just don't get it, these players are in the system from minicamp. During TC and preseason, these guys were active. How does it change?
     
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  13. brandon27

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    You do realize that Harbaugh's Michigan team this year is starting 10 new guys on defense? They graduated almost their entire defense last year, with one guy coming back. I think it's 3/5's of his OL this year is new, most of the guys on O are new. How many players last year left that program to the NFL? That's why they're "down" this year. It's not related to Harbaugh at all. He's a damn fine coach, and they only reason you can even discuss the fact they've "regressed" in his time there is the turnover of the program. Before him, they had some good players, but no real depth. He's rebuilt that entire program in his short time to the point where they're starting a bunch of new faces, and still playing well. They're only going to keep getting better.

    That being said, he's not leaving Michigan anytime soon. Just like Gase isn't likely leaving Miami anytime soon.

    As for Fischer... No idea, can't comment there, haven't paid attention, however either way, it's irrelevant because Gase isn't going to be gone this year.
     
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  14. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    Keep Gase till we can get bill belichick
     
  15. jw3102

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    While I accept that there is a higher turnover at the college level, this high turnover doesn’t seem to affect Alabama or Ohio State.
    I think Harbaugh is an okay head coach but I just don’t think he is nearly as good as some other people think he is. I would take his brother John over him as an NFL head coach any day of the week.
     
  16. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    If I am Ross or the FO, I ask Gase what he needs to get better. Gase and Grier were supposedly hand in hand in personnel decisions. I would ask, where did you guess wrong on the offensive line and what are your plans in case RT is hurt again? As for Grier, I attempt to shed bad salaries, to make sure better personnel is in critical areas. james, Pouncey, Tannehill, anthony, phillips, saves $40M. Again, they need to re-do RT's deal. I would re-structure Jones, Branch, Alonso and Stills. They account for $41M next year. Need flexibility. larsen and gray is another $2M if they choose
     
  17. mor911

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    Gase is in his second year. His first year was a playoff berth. This year he's on QB3, and a crap ton of key injuries, and still has more wins than losses. Why in the world would he be fired?
     
  18. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you missed where we have three 1st round picks that we drafted on the offensive line and a 4th first rounder acquired through trade. Making things up as you go doesn't make them true.

    Or maybe you missed how 31 of the 32 teams in the NFL DON'T WIN the Super Bowl every year. That means 31 teams have fans saying they could have done better. So if you're going to ask what Miami has done lately (besides Miami's 10-6 record, being the hottest 2nd half team in the league last year and winning more 1-score contests than anyone)....there's about 30 more teams to include on that list.

    As others have said, we're 4-3 with a struggling offense. The season is far from over and Gase found a way to turn everything around last season. This is not the time for baby momma drama over firing the coach and all of our starters.
     
  19. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    having 3 first round picks means squat, if they suck, are injury-prone or cannot live up to their potential. Why Pouncey is palying still is beyond me, and why there was no insurance policy with another C is also beyond me. Let's face it, Tunsil sucks at LT. If he was effective, the line would be tremendously better. He was hidden behind Albert last year.
     
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  20. tirty8

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    I had posted this in a previous thread. It is more of a philosophy with a few names of finding the next one.

    I feel like we have officially made the same mistake twice in a row. Philbin was a genius when he worked with Aaron Rodgers, and Gase was a genius after working with Peyton Manning. I think it was painfully obvious that the truth was vastly different than it appeared. This happens all too often in the NFL. Look at every coach that landed a big time gig after working with the Patriots. Having a great QB makes anyone a genius.

    I think that we need to look at coaches that are getting a lot out of a little. I remember really liking Jay Gruden as a head coaching candidate because I really did not feel like he had exceptional talent in Cincy, but was able to maximize the output of the players that he did have. Also, it seemed like offensive draft picks tended to pan out, and I thought that his player development seemed to be on solid footing.

    So who are the current "Jay Grudens."

    John Morton - I am awestruck by the job that he has done in New York. They really do not have a lot of talent on the offensive side of the ball, and they are getting a ton of production out of Jay Gruden.

    Frank Reich - I am genuinely impressed with the growth of Carson Wentz this year. He has got a lot production out of Zach Ertz. Reich had some level of success in San Diego.

    Matt Nagy - I love the Andy Reid tree. If you really think about it, Andy Reid has never had a bad quarterback. He got EXCELLENT production out McNabb, Smith, Vick, and Foles. Moreover, Doug Pederson is a shining example of an Andy Reid disciple doing well.

    Jim Bob Cooter - Although he has a few run-ins with alcohol related incidents, what he has done in Detroit sine the exodus of Calvin Johnson is admirable. Aside from Stafford, he really doesn't have a super star on offense. Nevertheless, Detroit has done fairly well on offense.

    I'd love to hear if you guys have any other ideas.


    PS- I would love to have Harbaugh.
     
  21. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    I want to know who the qb developer is. Is it Fisher?
     
  22. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Okay, so you complained that we wouldn't invest picks in linemen (which if clearly false), then you changed it to we picked the wrong linemen. Complain away if you want to complain....just don't make things up to try and argue a point.
     
  23. bigballa2102

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    Exactly what im asking, why all of a sudden does cutler and moore have wristbands im not understanding, that leads me to believe that gase is changing stuff and its horrible changes. How does an "offensive guru/qb whisperer" try and change the game right now? all of these players minus cutler have been here for 2+ years with respect to O-line maybe there the morons who cant deciode to grab the inside defender or outside or to pass or run block. it makes no sense.
     
  24. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    I agree, the raiders don't seem all but "Great" these are teams we should beat but lose too. literally raiders, Carolina, or tampa are really the last shots at winning and the running guillotine starts. I would be impressed with 1 win in the last 6 after what buffalo is doing. Baring any major injuries.
     
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  25. CanGasePlaybook

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    Yeah, I think the only team we have a chance against is Tampa. I have prepared myself for Miami losing the rest of the season. 5-11
     
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  26. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    I agree going 7-9 like I said before the season seems like a positive at this point
     
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  27. tirty8

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    Jeff Fischer was unable to develop Vince Young and Jared Goff (who likes lightyears better without him). I think he can put together a solid defense, but I would pass of Fischer.
     

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