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Is There a Fix for This Offense?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by KeyFin, Oct 27, 2017.

  1. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean we have no other choice? We do but gase refuses to change the script.

    If they stack the line throw it over their head, we have multiple receivers than can stretch the defense (Parker, stills, grant), but we are not using them. We need to run more playaction what ever little success we have had on offense has mostly come on play action but gase is not calling it enough.

    Bottom line gase has been a horrible playcaller and he needs to change the script and attack weaknesses instead of running into the strength of the defense. Every team has us figured out they stack the line to stop the run and cover all the undernearh routes and screens that gase continuously calls.
     
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  2. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, linemen definitely call out blocking assignments for runs, especially since defenses in the NFL stunt, have LB's walk up to the line of scrimmage, etc. It's not always crystal clear who to block and you also have to remember, linemen aren't always scholars that naturally pick things up and see switching coverages in real time.

    For pass plays, the QB calls out the Mike to essentially center the blocking scheme on that person....saying that's the middle of the field and to create the pocket around him. There are a lot more variables in pass protection and a lot more ways to screw things up, which is why linemen always want to run the ball whenever possible. It's much easier to go hit someone than it is to wait and see who comes at your gap.
     
  3. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Man your act is tiresome.
     
  4. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    They can't open up the run with the pass. The WR's are not diagnosing the plays correctly or running the correct routes. Nor is the O-line sustaining their pass blocks. Few teams can operate like that and the Dolphins are not one of them.

    All that's left again is to go max protect or for Jay Ajayi to stay committed to hitting the inside runs and grind it out. The finesse passing offense is a losing strategy for this nucleus right now.
     
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  5. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    stills and Landry do not require double coverage, especially if their putting Landry on the perimeter where the corner uses the boundary against landrys strengths...all this leads to more men in the box...also we have not adapted to defenses adapting last year to our outside zone run stuff..plus we suck coming off the ball in attack mode in the run game..fu## this zone blocking crap..
     
  6. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Kind of reminds me of what happened to Lazor's offense - which got figured out the very next season.

    But ya, there's no Parker out there drawing favorable coverages for Stills/Landry. Nobody respects Juice's speed and then you have Julius Thomas who is a complete waste of a roster spot out there. Fasano doesn't bring anything athletically so he's not creating space for the other receivers either.
     
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  7. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    Yes they can, just put stills and grant on the boundaries and have them both run deep routes, they are both fast enough to get behind any corner and defenses are only leaving one deep safety against us sometimes none. Have landry run a slant or a crossing route at the same time to draw defenders away from the boundaries. Have the QB look off the safety and throw it deep. They can do it off of play action for more effect. It shouldnt take more than 3 seconds to get the ball off if the oline cannot sustain for that long then have ajai stay in to protect. If it doesn't work the first time go to it again until they back off and start to respect the passing game.

    At this point I would rather go three and out taking shots downfield than continue to run it into 8 man fronts.
     
  8. CanGasePlaybook

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    That isn’t part of the Guru’s system. Bubble screens and draws!
     
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  9. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Moore ran a similar play with one WR going deep seven times last week. Seven. He got laid out six times for his efforts and not a single pass was caught. No throws were perfect, plus a few of them saw lack of effort by the receiver.

    It sounds nice on paper.....just throw the bomb to the speedy guys every time and eventually you'll connect on a few. And we may do that once Parker is back since he has the speed and the size, but you've got to stop expecting miracles from Moore/Cutler with the entire offense playing badly.
     
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  10. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    I doubt teams would sit back and let the Dolphins repeatedly run go routes on the boundary with both WR's. They would continue to blitz the hell out of them so as to not allowing those routes to develop.
     
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  11. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    You're right.

    Proving people wrong is VERY tiresome.

    (EDIT: BTW, your boy Mando claimed he said it "several" times. That's more than twice. ;) )
     
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  12. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    I just glanced at this, but it seems like the guy has a good point.


    "Gase has stated his best skills players aren’t prepared due to a lack of effort… is it true?

    Here is a detailed film study of every negative play in the 1st half of the Ravens game to see if what Adam Gase said about certain players not being prepared, due to a lack of study and effort, is true. Or is it really other factors that are the primary contributor to the awful loss? We can’t read minds, so we won’t ever know the why, but the level of production of the players will go a long to proving or disproving his point.

    Here we go:"

    http://www.phinsnews.com/miami-dolphins-news-film-study-ravens-game-support-gases-case/
     
  13. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    We have three wide receivers who are legitimate deep threats (Parker, grant, and stills) and Cutler is a very good deep ball passer.

    There is no reason why we can't open up the passing game and stretch the defenses to open up the run other than gase not practicing it and not emphasizing it enough during the games.

    Going deep to just one side is not enough because they usually have one safety providing help, and the problem was they were trying to run Landry deep on the boundary which is a waste of time since he is not a deep threat. They have been successful doing it with stills they just need to go to it more and get grant in there as well. Parker coming back will also help. If you go deep to both sides there will always be one side without any safety help unless they back off the other safety from the box which is exactly what we want to accomplish to open up the running game.
     

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