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Parker Question

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dirtylandry, Nov 5, 2017.

  1. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    I still saw the run first down, screen second down, throw ball 3 yards short of first down.... or if 3rd and long draw play. I was laughing during game as I was calling the plays out before they happened
     
  2. Walter

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    Pure Genius ?????

    Or maybe the even a broken clock is right twice a day theory is more appropriate .

    Don't think Genius is anywhere close to reality....

    I saw actual OL competently pass protecting and giving our QB time to actually run plays through 3/4's..............But still disastrous in Opening holes for the ground game. Why most success was through the air...and Success was more the OL play than the RB's. Funny just wondering how long its going to take this Genius to figure that one out....and sadly its not a subtle defect or something new Here....but like the other hasbeens He didn't recognize the severity of this weakness and now seeing the effects of their half azz upgrade...and usually being blown away by it...
    Just hoping more than anything whoever is here next year will FINALLY realize and do something to fix this on going problem thats been screwing us up Big Time, for longer than I can remember...
     
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  3. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    The game plan and play calling on Sunday night were excellent. Was it 100% perfect? None ever are. Hindsight is 20/20.

    I agree that the O-line was protecting and blocking well, too.

    However, how many plays, big plays, did they have called back due to a hold or illegal formation or a false start?
     
  4. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    you and I have obviously different definitions of the word "genius" and if your easily pleased from that game that's good but there was no geniuse and we still lost. You have to account for your team, penalties come and go you have to live with them that's why you practice.
     
  5. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    a fumble stopped us too!!!!
     
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  6. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    He played in 15 games his rookie season.

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    He probably seemed forgettable to you because you live in Philly and know nothing about the Dolphins.
     
  7. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    The game plan and play calling were fantastic.
     
  8. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    That was a back breaker.
     
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  9. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    like I said easily pleased!!!
     
  10. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Not in the least. Did you not see how well they moved the ball? If not for the penalties they would have put up 40 points.
     
  11. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    ya I lost a plate of nachos to that, not my proudest moment!!!!
     
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  12. bigballa2102

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    don't get crazy about 40 pts, it prolly helped that oaktowns defense sucks and they have like 10 injuries on that side of the ball so like I said don't get all hyped up.
     
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  13. Walter

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    Play calling excellent.... well I guess we just have different standards of "excellence"...

    Personally I see pretty much a common sense approach especially after releasing AJ, to the aerial game plan. I mean your not going to run so much on the ground with our OL, Drake and Williams daa... Plus its clear to see Gase, Drake and Williams are more comfortable with it. Didn't see much that I'd consider ground breaking insight to jump to the excellent degree though considered an improvement over his past brain storms but also ended with the L and against a team that was mediocre also.

    OL blocked well enough to give that approach a shot to succeed and gee also shut down the QB bashers for a week.
    But again OL non existent on the ground game with very few holes, yes there were some 3-4....

    Penalties were again a problem in the Raiders game but also several previous games also Stupid penalties. Another weak area I hold Coaching staff ultimately responsible and consider a problem in focusing... But then I lived through the Shula era where he just didn't put up with that and funny there wasn't a lot of it in them days to complain about. Probably had to also deal with a few Marino glances that could eat right through ya.
     
  14. danmarino

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    There really is no other way to look at last games game plan and play calling. Both were fantastic. The penalties (both real and imaginary) killed many drives. The Dolphins moved the ball on the ground and through the pass.

    Drake had an 8 ypc average. If not for the penalties putting them into long distance situations my bet is he would have had more attempts.

    Cuter also thrives when he has a RB who can catch. Most QB's do and there's nothing wrong with that.

    Yes, I miss the Shula disciplined Dolphins. Always ranked last in the league for penalties.
     
  15. Walter

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    Really ?

    Have not and rarely do go stat crazy, just tell what I see and If I'm wrong please inform me but I didn't see a whole lot of success on strictly the running game. Where I did see improvement was from putting the ball in the air to our RB's... But still not that excited. Ya a improvement from probably most of the first 1/2 of the season but our improvements are just getting us to mediocre and not anything close to what I'd get excited about. Although if we see a level of consistency even mediocre I'd have to at least acknowledge that as a positive...

    Ya Gase and the team has a lot to live up to just for those of us that were there when the Dolphins were a real team and not some kind of circus side show as this organization IMO is making now a daze....
     
  16. Dolphin North

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    But I think it is a coaching problem sometimes. Other times it is a lack of talent getting overwhelmed by a better opponent. I hope it is the latter because I want Gase to work out for us so we can get to building a solid team. But if it is coaching, get ready for more of the same old same old that we have been seeing for the last 2 decades or so.
     
  17. danmarino

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    Gase has had his share of problems, this last game (and many before it) he has not. The biggest problem with this team, or so it seems, is the players not getting on the same page because they're lazy, childish, and/or dumb.

    When you combine that with RT's injury, hurricanes, AWOL players, coke-head coaches...well, let's just say I'm amazed that Gase has kept this team together as well as he has.
     
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  18. Dolphin North

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    That's what he is saying, but I would have liked to have seen him sniff out the immature ones earlier and get the roster turned over. Part of it is salary cap but he definitely could have moved some more guys if he had noticed. Again, I worry that he didn't, but I still have hope for him.
     
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  19. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    yea. Last game was the first time I thought Julius Thomas actually showed up to play.
     
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  20. Walter

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    Teflon Gase love the way he gets by without having any responsibilities...This friggin train wreck is his doing and I don't blame him for the injuries.....But this team has been out of wack for a while and hes been steering it, christ he's even admitted That He's been not sure of the directions........JMO

    Wondering DM when does a HC become responsible for his team ????, Could have seen Sparano and Philbin crucified months ago if they were HC ....I'm amazed he has let this team fall apart as much as it has, always thought thats what makes a good coach never getting close to the level of chaos we've experienced...I feel HC has a lot to be responsible for..
     
  21. danmarino

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    Did you skip over the first sentence?

    Here it is, "Gase has had his share of problems"
     
  22. Walter

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    Im pretty sure most everybody who is a Dolphin Fan and even the ones that don't live in Miami realize he had and has problems......They are still going on to the point of some wondering if he even knows whats going on but thats a whole new discussion.
    The question was, at what level or what things outside of weather and injuries do you actually hold a Head Coaches responsible (injuries to a point as far as replacement or game plans).
    Like you pointed out there is no miss understanding that this team has and is facing problems and the don't really seem to be slowing down, even with the improvement seen in our Loss to the Raiders...

    Maybe I just wasn't clear enough, but my intention was to hear your response to what and when Should our head coach be even acknowledged as being a big part in pretty much all of this... And You think he's handling it properly or just so unfairly cornered that No one could do significantly better. Because you did say
    " You are amazed that He's kept this team together " ( also debatable )....which to me is kind of an endorsement of confusion and lack of progression....A head coaches Job I thought to avoid.
     
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  23. cbrad

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    For me: when we stop having winning seasons (exception: a losing season counts as "winning" if we make the playoffs).

    As long as we keep winning (9-7 or better) or keep making the playoffs there is NO reason to get rid of the coach IMO. And I'm also willing to overlook something like one losing season out of every 4 seasons as long as we're making the playoffs the rest of the time.

    That doesn't mean criticism of Gase is unwarranted (e.g. I think he's done a poor job of play calling in many games this season), it just means you don't replace a winning coach.
     

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