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Miami is an injury-prone team

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dirtylandry, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    Have your thoughts on acquisition of talent changed this past season because a disturbing trend continues with this team? I ask, because I keep thinking about the offseason and the draft and I wouldn't be opposed to getting certain positions because this team has not been able to survive injuries, esp the last two years. Between the OL, QB and LB positions, we are just one of those snake-bitten teams. Hoping that injuries go away, or you have a clean year is yesterday's thinking. I wouldn't be opposed if Miami cut salary over the offseason and also if they drafted in positions we think we have a quality starter
     
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  2. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Do you have data that Miami gets hurt more than any other team?
     
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  3. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    no but I think it's safe to say our injuries are more impactful because we lack depth.
     
  4. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Do we really lack depth?

    People keep on bringing this up, however, other than linemen, their depth is pretty on par with the rest of the league. Pretty deep at defensive end, defensive tackle, linebacker, safety, and even cornerback.

    Running back has good enough depth. Wide receiver depth is fine. Quarterback depth is O.K. Tight end depth is so good I kind of wish the starter would get injuried, unless he can keep up his play from the Raider game.
     
  5. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    what's the deal with suh missing practice today? he is good for MONDAY right? it was just a rest day right?
     
  6. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    if we were deep we wouldn't have these issues. we have journeymen linemen on the offensive side. it's proven no depth at qb. no depth at LB. give me a break
     
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  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    we lost four starters to start the season right?

    larsen..Mcmillian..Ryan...Nate allen..

    larsen is back so 3..maybe 4 if Juwan goes out..
     
  8. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Knee injury. Not much else said. Also James hamstring looks like it will keep him out an extended period.
     
  9. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Matt Moore is a decent back up.

    Plenty of depth at LB. Chase Allen has over a 70 rating on PFF and Hull is a good enough back up. This is the best linebacking depth Miami has had in years.

    I think the problems are more execution than lack of depth. Especially in comparison to any other team.

    I agree that offensive line is an issue, however, I see no proof that Miami has a worse depth problem than any other team.
     
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  10. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    And Allen replaced McMillian pretty well and Rey has done well as well. Most teams are screwed when their starting QB gets hurt. Nate Allen's injury was almost an upgrade with Thomas.
     
  11. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    TJ is def an upgrade over Allen so theres that...

    james is gonna hurt, but theres hope with Davis.
     
  12. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    The offensive line depth is pretty bad. I am not arguing that.

    Hopefully Davis will show enough to get rid of Young. He is so bad.
     
  13. jdallen1222

    jdallen1222 Well-Known Member

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    Why does this team keep drafting DTs?
     
  14. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Oooh, I broke a shoe lace. Think I'll start a thread.
     
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  15. texanphinatic

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    Offensive line depth is bad throughout the whole league. OL play in general is bad throughout most of the league. There just aren't starter quality linemen growing on trees, the college game has left them woefully under prepared for the pro game. It's one of the issues I have with all the people crying about it. First, we have invested a LOT of resources into the line - sadly more than a few have not worked out, which is a valid criticism. But secondly, we need to realize that the position in general is one that has really struggled the last few years. It is one of the big reasons for crappy offense and even lack of QB development over the past few years. Watching some teams play, I would say we don't have it too bad really. It certainly isn't a strength, but it could be way worse.
     
  16. KeyFin

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    Just think about what you're asking an offensive lineman to do-

    "You see that guy? He's Cameron Wake, a shu-in for the Hall of Fame and one of the best in the business. I want you to go out there and shut him down all 50+ plays tonight, even though that's never happened before during Wake's career. Do you think you can do that for me?"

    As insane as that sounds, James did that last week against Khalil Mack up until he got hurt. And people are expecting our rookies to do that weekly? It just doesn't work that way- stand-out defenders are going to win most of the time, and when they don't it's because they're being double teamed and allowing the opportunity for someone else to make a play.

    I've never said that our offensive line is awesome, but it bothers me when folks continually say that they're terrible. You go try to block Suh 50 times in a row and have people saying you suck because you only succeeded 40 times. If a player is blocking Suh or Wake alone 40 out of 50, they're a freaking all-star stud. Our line has been very good this year overall.
     
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  17. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    I honestly believe Miami isn’t a good city for a football team. I think they party to hard and enjoy the lifestyle in Miami more than worrying about their careers. This isn’t a joke I think some of the single / younger guys want to get free work as fast as possible to enjoy the lifestyle Miami Provides.
     
  18. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    pats sign bennett. the ultimate example of my post. you draft and sign based on strengths to remain strengths. Pats willing to pay rest of salary and knows they lose Gronk , there is insurance. Thats how a successful team is ran. Pats have been successful, right? Guess what, the Miami does things is mediocre. they need to change. fans are too accustomed buying their hype and then finding excuses
     
  19. jdallen1222

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    I see you are looking at that in a vacuum and making assumptions.
     
  20. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    They sign a guy who was cut because he was hurt. He may not be able to even play right now. If we would have signed him the narrative would have been why do we always sign players who are injury prone. It's a no win proposition.
     
  21. Vertical Limit

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    He even said this will be the last 8 games of his career, that his body cant handle it.
     
  22. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    From PFT:
    Bennett has a torn rotator cuff.

    Per Rapoport, Bennett may try to play through it. Before that happens, though, the Patriots will have to clear him to play.

    If they do, they’re on the hook for the balance of his $900,000 salary. Prorated based on eight remaining weeks, the Patriots owe him $423,529 in base salary either way.

    This is the brilliant move that was being shown as what we should be doing????
     
  23. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    No such thing as an injury prone team.

    If there's an injury-related query for Miami, in my opinion, it's the practise of drafting injured players. I haven't tried to check any data but I'm curious about the productivity we've received from players drafter while injured. They took the gamble on talent vs. injury and my initial feeling is that they've not won the bet.
     
  24. Rickysabeast

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    I agree though I think every team is injury prone. I think literally half of the pre season designated starting QB's in the league have suffered a serious injury before week 10 began. We need to get them better equipment so they can take the beating. Don't make the rules tougher or the defense weaker in how they hit but get the players some armored pants or something.
     
  25. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    the key is depth. quality depth. to manage depth, you have to be smart with money. Branch has been a waste, is one example
     
  26. cbrad

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    Football has a higher injury risk than rugby, partly because players feel safer with more armor and don't mind hitting harder. So paradoxically you can increase injury risk with more armor.

    The real problem isn't the extra armor, but that the joints still have freedom of motion. If you really want to (nearly) eliminate injuries with better equipment you'll need something like this, but with some means of catching the ball LOLOL:

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    and LOTS of cushions inside. Would be hilarious to see football played with suits designed to truly eliminate injuries haha!
     
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  27. Rickysabeast

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    LOL!
     
  28. vt_dolfan

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    But saying our injuries are more impactful because we lack depth, is very different from saying we are an injury prone team. Are our injuries more impactful then the Giants losing their starting WRs for season? More impactful then Aaron Rogers, or Desaun Watson?
     
  29. vt_dolfan

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    Hes absolutely correct. Football has a higher concussion and injury rate over all then Rugby. Rugby has a higher rate of spinal injuries however. USA Football, the governing body for Youth Football in America has been adopting Pete Carol's Hawk Tackling technique , which is essentially rugby tackling , because A) Its a more effective tackle...and B) It takes the head out of tackling all together.
     
  30. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    And without knowing the stats I'd guess the spinal injuries comes from the impact of the scrum. No such thing in the NFL.
     

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