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Some NFL Coaches Fired after 2016 Season

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dirtylandry, Nov 28, 2017.

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  1. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    Rex Ryan, Bills record was 15-16 - 2 years
    Gus Bradley 14-48 - 4 years
    Jeff Fisher was around forever, but last three years was 17-28
    Chip Kelly 28-35, including 2-14 in SF
    Mike McCoy was 27-37 4 years


    I mean do we really care about Tom Landry, Chuck Knox or Knoll, Shula or anyone else. Look at my contemporary coaches fired, just last year. Gase deserves to be fired this year, but more than likely will get another year. The dangerous thing about holding out too long, is you can miss opportunities.
     
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  2. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    ya who cares about tom cruise and chuck Norris, records matter :) going 4-6 should make Miami mad its lower than our normal 8 wins
     
  3. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    Fin D manipulates stats. check the prior post, and see what I uncovered about his win and loss records
     
  4. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    yup that's why I don't know why I get involved with his stupidity.
     
  5. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    I mean combined with bad posts, untrue stats should get him banned for life
     
  6. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The dangerous part is listening to constant knee jerk reactions from fans who think two years is a long time to hold onto a coach. Then moan about how come this team has no continuity. I am sure some on here will be willing to give the next coach another LOOOOOONG two years to fix things. Can't make this stuff up. On top of it, a coach who had a playoff season his 1st year
     
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  7. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    I actually expect him to be here for a third year. If it was up to me, I would throw all the money to Harbaugh and fire Gase this season. If Gase is fired next year, then I don't know who that would be, but I'd say Harbaugh again
     
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  8. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    If the direction of this team takes a tragic turn again, based on leadership, you will eat those words. Let me give you a scenario. They keep the Oline in tact, they don't get any qb's and they depend on RT's knee to hold up. Add retaining Burke to that and Gase calling his own plays. Now, based on the fact you passed up on a rookie qb, and Brees and Cousins as a FA, how do you think we would look in 2019?
     
  9. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    none really, I don't think he can even make a stand in his third year or 4th.
     
  10. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Unless Miami lands a huge free agent contract this offseason, Miami looks better in 2019 as they can unload more contracts with much less dead cap space. 2019 is a much better year to blow it all away.
     
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  11. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    so you would wait on dumping like $60M in contracts with Wake, Pouncey, James, Thomas, and Tannehill?
    What can those players do for us next year?
     
  12. Triggercut

    Triggercut Well-Known Member

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    Give a coach/gm combo one year and a half. That's it. First year is in full though playoffs are expected. By halfway through the second season must be at least even in wins and losses, and the fans on messageboards MUST say really good things about him, except for the few that constantly complain - they are there to keep it real.
     
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  13. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Wake can continue to be a pass rush specialist. James can continue being a top 10 tackle. Tannehill can see if he can bounce back and be the quarterback he was the final 8 games before he got hurt.

    Pouncey and Thomas need to be done. They are not living up to their contract.
     
  14. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    pass rush specialist at $8M?
    When was James a top 10 tackle? he is at $9M?
    at $15M Tannehill's knee worth the risk?

    I'm sorry this team doesn't need a specialist, they need 3 down linemen
     
  15. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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    There’s no substance in anything he’s suggesting. He’s just trying to be the loudest idiot in the room.
     
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  16. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    Fin D would not appreciate that!
     
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  17. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    you just egged him on now hes gonna show you stats of 22 yrs and only the 2% of those that make him right......wait for it....wait for it!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  18. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    $8 million for this production is a steal.

    If you haven't noticed James, then you are blind. he has been playing very well this season.

    yes. $15 million is Mike Glennon money.
     
  19. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    and what kind of team is Glennon on?
    Miami proved that they can actually get versatile linemen with William Hayes. I don't know what's the point in keeping Wake, when he only does well against the Jets. I'm blind to James because it's hard to watch him with all his penalties
     
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  20. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    here is a shocking stat, Miami has 3 linemen in top 19 with penalties per game.
     
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  21. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    That is not true.
     
  22. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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    The only answer is clearly that Gase sucks. Burke sucks. Everyone sucks. Just fire everyone every year until we win the SB. That's how good teams operate.
     
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  23. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    good teams operate without smoke and mirrors. Gase was the savior who propelled manning to a record breaking season
     
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  24. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    look at josh McDaniels at pats how was his head coaching tenor? he got fired after 2 years same situation 8-8 then 3-9 and fired and you think hes the best OC in the game? his job is very very easy having brady, he will get another HC job and it will be the same outcome.
     
  25. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    Im not disagreeing with you. Gase is a glorified OC
     
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  26. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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    Good teams don't overreact. They don't throw temper tantrums whenever something bad happens. They win by trusting in the people they hire and not threatening to fire everyone whenever things don't go as planned.

    I know you're mad that the Dolphins are once again a bad football team, but you're acting like a 2-year old. Adam Gase is a good football coach. We're not going to improve by constantly throwing people under the bus and always looking for a new HC after 2 years. We found our guy, just need to give them some time to develop a winning football team.
     
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  27. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    you got part right, good teams adapt!! not overreact, everyone is so quick to say injuries happen then blame rt injury on us losing and not being on gase, stuff happens and you should plan or do something about it. If the team was that bad without RT for the yr they should have made a move for someone, and we did it was cutler and that's Gase decision so you cant let him off the hook for his poor judgment as a coach.
     
  28. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Well since you state that Adam Gase deserves to be fired this season, the burden is on you to back that statement up with solid evidence.

    What evidence do you have that supports the thesis that Adam Gase deserves to be fired?

    Is there any historical evidence of any team firing a head coach in his second season, after taking the team to the playoffs in his first season?

    Is there any historical evidence to show that if any teams did do this...it benefited the franchise in the long run?
     
  29. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    yes
     
  30. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If the direction turns, I will eat those words. I won't be eating them after 28 games and after a season when the QB went down. What about you? Will you eat your words if things turn around next season and you wanted to burn it down so soon. Gase deserves at least three seasons, nothing less.
     
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  31. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Well look....I'm trying my darnedest to have a legit football discussion with you. Simply answering yes...tells me your not really interested in intelligent football discussion.
     
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  32. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    As logical a post that I have seen on the subject. Thank you! But you know where logic gets you? Ignored. You might as well be whistling in the wind
    than make sense to some.
     
  33. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    josh mcdaniels went 8-8 and got fired the next season going 3-9, as far as the playoffs im not sure if any team has made the playoffs he was 1 game out of the wild card in 2008 his first year.
     
  34. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Did he lose his starting QB in August of year two? Did his team have to completely reshuffle their schedule do to a Hurricane? Im gonna go out on a limb and guess...no.
     
  35. bigballa2102

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    we had to change 1 games for the hurricane the no bye thing sucks, as bad as it sucks I agree but injuries happen he had cutler then got orton I beleive!!! so it was a qb change!!! same as we had!!!

    gase chose cutler, mcdaniels chose orton pretty much the same thing.
     
  36. Fame

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    Gase didn't choose Cutler is the face of other more talented QBs. He didn't choose Cutler over guys like Brady or Rodgers. He chose Cutler over Matt Moore, which as evidenced by Sunday's game was absolutely the right choice even in hindsight.

    We got dealt a really bad hand when Tannehill went down. Gase tried to think outside the box and improve our roster instead of just rolling with Moore, who he knew was bad news. So Cutler didn't work out. He played terrible. But sadly he played better than Moore, and we didn't exactly have a whole lot to choose from right before the start of the season.
     
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  37. bigballa2102

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    in retro I don't think moore played bad for what he got handed he got the bad end of the stick he got the ravens on a 3 days of work and he got the pats, do you think cutler would have faired any better in those situations lol?

    there was more options at qb you trade for someone like minn did with philly, im sure there was a handful of teams willing to trade us a qb. any of them good who knows but if cutler wasn't the best option on the table that was on gase and it was his decision and it was a bad one so you cant let him off the hook for it.
     
  38. danmarino

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    Name one.

    And do you propose the Dolphins give up a 1st or two 1sts for this fantasy QB you're talking about?
     
  39. bigballa2102

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    im not in the front office or know what options they looked at im sure Cleveland woulda let osweiler go im not at all saying we would have got a Philip rivers and stuff but there was better options than a retired garbage cutler for cheaper, could have got a young guy, but if you think gase didn't have a hard on to get cutler you are seriously dumb!!
     
  40. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    by any means not give up any 1st rounder's or anything, but your the one always saying everyone is for sale and attainable in trades aren't you? so why don't you believe this.
     
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