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Offseason Predictions?

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  1. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    Make your predictions about what you think the Dolphins FO will or won't do this off-season.

    NOTE - Don't post what you want them to do or what you think would be good or bad - Post what you think THEY WILL do.

    For me? Despite the calls for upgrades on the OL I've got a feeling that the team will NOT be addressing the OL with any major picks.

    I suspect the team may seek to prioritise other positions of need over the OL believe that RT is set with James, LT with Tunsil who is developing, Pouncey at Center and Asiata coming in at guard. I think they will select a C or G at some point lower down, but I don't think it will be a high pick - unless some ridiculous talent filters down beyond expectations.
     
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  2. Rickysabeast

    Rickysabeast Royale With Cheese

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    Move up for top QB in Draft. Don't even want to guess who that is pre-combine. Put some heat on Tannehill for this year with the better QB starting in '19.
     
  3. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I think we continue to focus on defense with a 1st round linebacker or edge rusher. We will also grab a running back and a TE in the top four rounds...it will be interesting to see where folks like Mark Andrews of Oklahoma end up. Most of the draft will be corners, edge rushers and linebackers though, with the only other exception being a punter around the 6th-7th round.
     
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  4. tealsteal

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    Another edge rusher after Harris?
     
  5. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Make what we consider a fair deal to Landry and let him walk if he refuses. Draft a mid/low round rookie and/or sign a lower end FA to replace if he does.

    Sign at least 1 top tier OL (partly is this is what I want, but I think there is a good chance - got to upgrade that G Spot heh).

    Bring in a new QB to compete with Tanny and let Moore fade into the sunset. This will be a pick in rounds 1-3. Tanny will be given the edge, but they will also hedge against injury to him, unshakeable rust from lack of play time, and invest in a youth.

    Make some positional coaching changes - perhaps replace OC with a playcaller to lessen the load on Gase and let him focus more on coaching and high level stuff.

    Not fire Gase or, sadly, TBum.

    Pick up a mid-tier, bigger RB to spell Drake - a guy like Hill, Crowell, etc.

    Churn lower end FA for JAGs to help fill secondary/LB/DL etc.

    ... Move on from Wake unless he takes a big cut. Adding another significant passrusher in FA or rounds 1-2 if so.
     
  6. bbqpitlover

    bbqpitlover Well-Known Member

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    Nothing, like almost ever year, just ignore the offensive line issues and QB issues, nothing to see here move along.
     
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  7. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    DeVante Parker for Martavis Bryant trade....
     
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  8. tealsteal

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    Miami makes some tough cuts and makes a splash at qb
     
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  9. invid

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  10. djphinfan

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    there are some talks about our liking him.
     
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  11. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    I’m on board, that’s high value in return for someone I don’t think will ever get it together but might have a little trade value still in Parker
     
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  12. tirty8

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    I think Gase/Tannenbaum stay.

    Julius cut.

    Pouncy released/traded.

    If we can use Timmons' AWOL to get out of his guaranteed money, he will be gone. If not, we might have to bight the bullet.

    FA O-lineman

    Draft - Early pick on an O-lineman

    Draft a TE (Mike Gesicki?)

    In some way, shape, or form, we will add QB competition.

    60% chance Landry is back

    Parker returns.

    The Lippett/Tankersly boundary corner is an area that we try and upgrade.

    Burke is fired

    McMillan's return constitutes addressing LB.

    Here is the interesting one - I think Jordan Phillips gets a decent sized extension this offseason. I think that the front office thinks it would be cheaper to give him the money now than wait a year. (I personally have my doubts, but I really could see this happening.)
     
  13. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Im not ready to move on from Parker, especially with Ryan coming back..He's an immature dude, so he's gonna take more time than the norm.
     
  14. rdhstlr23

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    I predict they will **** it up like they always do.
     
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  15. Dorfdad

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    Maybe we will sign Cutler to a 2 year deal to pressure Tanny. I jest but it will probably happen
     
  16. aesop

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    lol
     
  17. rdhstlr23

    rdhstlr23 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Embarrassing.

    Gase wanna shove that **** down my throat again about how he likes the players being aggressive?

    Dude and these guys can get the **** our of here.

    Landry...wanted 1 thing. To get his 1k. What a POS.

    Undisciplined.

    Just cancelled my season tickets. Hope everyone else does too.
     
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  18. ChrisKo

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    My prediction is that we'll sign some FAs and draft some players. Then we'll have some practices and preseason games before kickoff the chase for a title, just like 31 other teams.
     
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  19. DolphinGreg

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    How many threads do you need to drop into to take a dump on Gase?

    For real, bro. Say it once and go sit down. We heard you the first time.

    It's not funny. It's not useful. Ha. Ha. We get it.
     
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  20. DolphinGreg

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    The urgency of the O-line has a lot to do with (A) whether we retain James and (B) how the draft falls. At this point, Tunsil and Davis are starters. So if the right guy is available, I could see us addressing O-line as highly as Round-2.

    The urgency of adding weapons really is a function of whether or not Jarvis Landry is re-signed. If Landry walks, it opens the door for a TE in a major way. That could be our Round 1 or Round 2 pick.

    As usual, I see the defense as needing help on all 3 levels. I don't see any drastic moves though. I think we could very well end up spending on 1st rounder on a DE if the right player is there. Hard to see the value in many other positions.
     
  21. ChrisKo

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    There's a Soapbox - Rant forum for this.
     
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  22. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Amen to that.
     
  23. adamprez2003

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    LINEBACKER AND DEFENSIVE END WILL BE OUR 1ST AND 2ND ROUND DRAFT PICKS.

    IF we addess Oline it will be through free agency. They have to be ready to start day one next year. No time to groom them.

    Tight ENd and Running back will be added but I don' know if through draft or FA.

    Pouncey will be retained.
    Kiko will be retained

    Vance Joseph will be fired by Denver and rehired by us as defensive coordinator.

    We make the playoffs next year
     
  24. hitman8

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    Mark Andrews is my big want in this draft. I wouldn't complain if we select him with our first pick. We have needed a gamechanging tight end like him for years.

    Aside from guard that is our biggest need right now.
     
  25. hitman8

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    You mean our fist two picks will be the same as last year? LB and DE? What a joke.

    Our biggest needs are TE and Oline. Some of the best linebackers and DEs from last year's draft were picked in the third and 4th rounds. We should go TE and oline first two rounds.
     
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  26. The_Dark_Knight

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    Offensively, I believe we're set with playmakers, with the exception of Parker. He has moments of brilliance but is a bit fragile and not a reliable dominant receiver. So offensively, look for the front office to address the OL, either through the draft or free agency.

    Defensively, as much of a defender as I have been for Kiko, he doesn't have the ability to cover TE's on pass plays and Wake is getting up there a bit in years. Granted our overall defense hasn't played up to the overall ability of the unit and I lay that blame at Burke's footsteps but then again in all fairness, we were decimated by injuries early in the season/preseason. So defensively, I see LB and DE being addressed. Due to all of the injuries, I see Burke getting a pass on his first year at DC but if his defense implodes again next year, watch for him to be shown the door
     
  27. ripper1961

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    LB and OG.
     
  28. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Definitely not a joke, you can provide yourself a lot of cap relief by getting a good edge rusher in the first round. As for your 3rd and 4th round claim, there might not be another Carl Lawson this year (technician with limited athleticism) like there was last year.

    Re: Mark Andrews. We'll see. All the sites list him 6-5 250lbs but he certainly looks bigger than that doesn't he? I don't know if he's got the speed to warrant an 11th overall pick, but he might be an intriguing trade up option towards the beginning of round 2. If he destroys all the offseason draft programs then maybe we can revisit this. This team could use a Witten-like dependable TE to keep our offense on the field longer. He is, at best, an average run blocker as well.
     
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  29. hitman8

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    If it's not a Myles garret type player that falls to us I don't want another DE in the first round. The only reason we are even considering this is because last year's first round DE has not been very impressive and branch is an overpaid glorified backup. We pretty much made our bed at DE we can't cut branch at this point and Harris will get another year to see if he will amount to anything. Wake still has at least another good year left and hayes is our 2nd best DE in my opinion after wake. That's our 4 DE rotation tight there with malveaux and free as developmental ps guys.

    I could justify going LB in the first but not DE again.

    Andrews is 6'5 260 and he has plenty of speed. You hardly ever see him have problems separating or getting caught from behind. He is a gronk type tight end in my opinion and we badly need to add that dimension to our offense. We haven't had a dominant tight end here in ages.
     
  30. invid

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    Andrews is nowhere near as effective as blocker as Gronk was, though I can see the value you see re: the pass game. Branch's 3-year deal is only essentially a 2-year deal. No telling if Hayes is coming back. Wake is old. We need to start replenishing that position sooner rather than later because it has such a dramatic impact on the pass game.
     
  31. invid

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    You can only justify taking a DE if a #1 overall skill set drops to us at 11? You're not really stepping out on a ledge here.
     
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  32. texanphinatic

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    Lol, just no.

    We'd draft one to play on the opposite side of Harris. Have a tandem youth passrush for a few years.
     
  33. hitman8

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    We have way bigger needs than DE for next year. Wake is still good for another year or two, branch can't be cut yet thanks to tbaums stupid contracts and he is being paid to start so you know he will be here next year. We already have last year's 1st round DE in harris who needs to develop in his second year and then we have Hayes who is our second best DE and should be back next year. Unless Hayes can't recover from his back injury I don't see where you will get playing time for another 1st round DE. Sticking a 1st round pick on the bench for a year or two is a waste of a pick.

    Our bigger needs right now are oline, TE and LB, in that order. We can definitely afford to pass on another 1st round DE for next year. Drafting another one back to back is just stupid unless you think harris is a total bust and hayes can't make it back healthy.
     
  34. invid

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    William Hayes is an unrestricted free agent.
     
  35. KeyFin

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    I'll update this based on yesterday-

    1) I think we offer Landry $6-8M a year, he demands $12-15 and he ultimately gets traded away last minute. Or if we do sign him, there's a stipulation in there that all of his bonuses are voided with any after-the-play unsportsmanlike penalties.

    2) Ross said that Gase and all executives are staying so that's not a conversation anymore. I do think we make some moves on other coaches though since the team culture is not where Gase wants it. The penalties have to stop.

    3) I think we keep Timmons, McDonald, Wake, Kiko and most of our starters on defense- although I'm buying more and more into moving Suh to another team (unless we can heavily restructure). While I think Suh is worth the money, I just don't see how we can afford him on that "try before you buy" contract. We did the same with Tannehill and you just can't have multiple contracts that keep growing year after year.

    4) As much as I'd like to pretend Cutler is gone, I have a feeling that we see him in training camp if another team doesn't pick him up as a 2018 starter (they won't). I am wondering if Moore is on the hot seat though based on starting Fales this past week. I do like the sound of the depth chart with RT, Fales and a mid-round draft pick so we're building for our future today. So I think Cutler competes for the starting job in training camp and gets cut somewhere along the way.

    5) I have a feeling that this draft will be BPA from top to bottom, with the only real focus on linemen on both sides of the ball. I think we grab a TE and a RB earlier on but I'm also halfway expecting us to move back whenever possible and grab some extra picks.

    6) In free agency, I think we have another year with a blockbuster trade, but this time it's going to be saying goodbye to Landry or Suh for draft picks. I don't think we bring in any veterans unless it's at corner or tight end....two positions where we have a lousy track record in trades.

    7) Finally, I don't think we focus on the starting offense at all unless it's at TE or RB. Thomas will be gone so I think that's the only day-one starter slot available unless we go guard in round one.
     
  36. hitman8

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    Oh yeah, I forgot that tbaum in his genius cut Hayes deal down to one year instead of two while giving branch a big fat extension, even though Hayes is better than branch.

    Even so I think we can get Hayes back for not too much money. He is by far our best run defender and a decent pass rusher.

    Even if he is not back I would put oline, TE and linebacker higher on our list of needs than DE. I definitely don't want another first round DE this year.

    A game-changing tight end would have a lot bigger impact for us right now than another 1st round DE.
     
  37. Carmen Cygni

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    We need a FS like dolphins need water.
     
  38. djphinfan

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    this front office needs to adhere to this philosophy in the first and 2nd rounds..just make sure the player you select is going to be good..don't worry to much on whether they may be a bit overrated by pundits, the value will be there if they pan out..
     
  39. aesop

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    You really have a problem with the Jones / McDonald tandem?

    I feel like this is one of our stronger areas.
     
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  40. djphinfan

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    its just an opinion of mine and Im not 100 percent sure about it, but I think if you want the best reshad Jones you can get he needs a cerebral free safety making the calls.
     
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