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THE Jarvis Landry Future Thread - News, Updates and Discussion

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Jan 3, 2018.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    anyone know Landry's longest catch this year?
     
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  3. shamegame13

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  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You don’t think he is an easier cover the farther he gets from the Los?

    I don’t think he is a good route runner either..

    Love him though, want him on my team, but he isnt perfect for sure
     
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  5. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    The CB probably said, "Landry's going deep? I'm gonna go grab me a sammich and catch up with him in a few minutes."
     
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  6. cbrad

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    Here's the catch:

     
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  7. Carmen Cygni

    Carmen Cygni Well-Known Member

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    Typical 15 yard Dig. That's about as far as he travels route-wise in the majority of circumstances.
     
  8. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Yup, it was 18 yards in the air (from the LOS) and he was WIDE open. I'm not sure that proves anything other than the defender actually was off grabbing a sammich.
     
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  9. Carmen Cygni

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    Sure was. A weakness of the Cover 3 is an intermediate Dig (or any intermediate in-breaking route, really) and Tampa was playing a C3 Weak out of a presnap C1 shell. it was a good presnap read by Moore in ID'ing that the FS was off the hash to continue with the playcall, and that it would be zone after the motion. It was also a perfect playcall in that when the FS rocked under, and the SS rolled back to the middle 1/3, they attacked outside-in away from the rotation and was a nice throw b/w the 2nd and 3rd level.
     
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  10. KeyFin

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    I watched the play a few more times and Landry actually does deserve some credit. He stiff armed that defender at the 45 to create seperation, and then he ran the most efficient path to get all the way to the 20. If you watch the play a few times, everyone out there is moving faster than Landry (the stiff-armed defender caught him pretty fast). He still took a 17 yard pass, had 7 yards of open field and then gained 25 more after contact.

    That's why we love him and get frustrated at the same time- super high effort but without the speed to really dominate a game. If we could somehow hit him on 17 yard slants all day without the safety in position though, the guy would be unstoppable. He's great when you get him the ball in space- but how often does that really happen with a $15M receiver that the other team game-plans for?

    Anyway, I read tonight that negotiations have opened back up and "both sides are close to an agreement". So maybe this is all for nothing and he's going to be in Miami after all.
     
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  11. slickj101

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    If we had any kind of WR or TE that'd ever demand to be doubled, Landry would be a monster. Think of how he'd be in a place like NE. Welker all over again.

    If he walks he walks but we need to really beef up WR/TE either way. FA WR market looks horrid. Wonder how long it takes for the gap between Carroo and Parker to disappear haha
     
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  12. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    Not that it's a biggie but Landry is putting that passion to use at the Pro Bowl weekend.

    He was last man standing in dodge ball and has now won two of the skills events:



     
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  13. KeyFin

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    It also said that he came in 2nd in all the other skills events. Landry is ballin!
     
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  14. shamegame13

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    The guy is one of the hardest workers in the offseason. His only trajectory is up. I’d hate to play him in a game of Checkers. If we had some sort of consistent Receiving threat to help him, he would be that much better. In 2016, he had a couple games of less than 4 catches but for 100 yards each time... wonder why? Oh yea, the Ajayi threat was real. In 2017, Landry was the only threat.
     
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  15. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    From Jason Lieser - PBP - http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachp...tionship-good-between-jarvis-landry-dolphins/

    "LAKE BUENA VISTA—This is a really good time to be Jarvis Landry. Really, really good.

    No matter how much his pending free agency seems to be getting bogged down with the Dolphins, he’s 25, he’s surrounded by family and friends at Pro Bowl week and this phase of his career ultimately ends with him hauling in more money than he’s ever seen in his life.

    He’s not stressed. He’s happy.

    “I am,” he told The Post after this morning’s AFC practice. “Have you not been seeing the pictures lately? I’m smiling… This is the most important thing to me right now, and everything else will work itself out.”


    This is in line with Landry’s attitude throughout the situation. When the team didn’t extend him a year ago, he shrugged it off and went to work. Going into this season without the security of a long-term deal, he was at peace.

    Now, with about a month and a half until he reaches the enviable position of being able to hit the open market, he’s not going to let that be anything but positive.

    If he returns to the Dolphins, great, that’s what he wants. If not, there are exciting alternatives all around the league.

    “Not even so much about the possibilities, but just excited about the process and what God has been doing in my life and the blessing that’s coming,” Landry said. “It’s really put me at peace in my life. That’s really all I can say.

    “Guys around here, a couple former players, just talking and chatting and, truthfully, there’s no easy way to get through this process, but at the same time, I’m understanding that what lies ahead is far greater than what has come. That’s the beautiful part about it.”

    What lies ahead is a scenario in which the worst-case outcome is he gets a $14-16 million paycheck, which is what the Dolphins would pay if they use the transition or franchise tag. Otherwise, he’s looking at a long-term deal possibly worth a total of $60 million.

    It’s a really, really, really good time to be Jarvis Landry.

    The preferred resolution for Landry is a new contract with the Dolphins, and he’s made no secret of that. While the organization hedges at every turn and says things like, “You can’t keep them all,” to quote vice president Mike Tannenbaum, he’s been saying for a year that he wants to be part of its future. He doesn’t consider negotiating leverage when he says that. He’s just telling the truth.

    That loyalty means something given how much he wants to be part of a winner and how far away from that status the Dolphins have been during his four seasons.

    “I love Miami,” Landry said. “I love the City of Miami. I love everything about it—the coaching staff, the fans. I was drafted there.

    “In any ideal situation, just like with you, you work for The Palm Beach Post. If you’re happy being there and you’re compensated the way you’re supposed to be for the amount of work that you do, then wouldn’t you want to stay there?”

    Miami safety Reshad Jones, also a Pro Bowler, said Landry seems at ease about free agency.

    “I think it’ll work out for him,” he said. “Hopefully the Dolphins make it happen here pretty soon, but he’s a great player and I think everything will work out for him.”

    Landry added that he has no doubt coach Adam Gase wants him back, and Gase has previously referred to Landry as the best offensive player on the team.

    Gase’s most recent comments, though, centered on Landry’s “embarrassing” ejection from the season finale and saying the team will “look at the body of work” as it ascertains how it will handle his free agency.

    Then there was the issue of in-house criticism of Landry’s play and conduct leaking to the media this month, though the Dolphins say it didn’t come from them. Landry’s agent, Damarius Bilbo, said he was “alarmed” by what he perceived as disrespect toward his client and the negotiating process.

    Landry surely didn’t like it, either, but he’s not holding a grudge and said his relationship with Dolphins management is good now.

    “I know so,” he said. “It’s always been healthy conversations, but even in healthy conversations you have moments where you have to tell each other things or say things to get on the same page. It’s called communication. That’s all this whole process is really gonna be about and has been about.”"
     
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  16. shamegame13

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    Get your money Jarvis. We asked a lot out of you the past 4 years. It’s much and well deserved. I see lesser players get overpaid and boatloads of money all while not earned. You earned yours. Our own organization has overpaid contracts on the team right now. You deserve the money.
     
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  17. KeyFin

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    Well, Landry and Drake. I agree with everything else though.
     
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  18. shamegame13

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    Drake was at the end of the year though, when Gase finally let the guy ball out instead of in a timeshare with uber pathetic Williams. I’m in full agreement that Drake is indeed a real deal weapon, it was just too small a sample size this year for me to call him a threat all season with Landry. For the most part, Landry was all we had.
     
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  19. Phinsfan92

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    Landry with a near 50 yarder down the sideline from Alex Smith with Xavier Rhodes covering him...

    Landry is important but not enough to justify $14+ mill.

    And given we can’t seem to find good interior lineman in the draft, I would grab a G and a veteran WR and possibly RB with that cap space.
     
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  20. Fin-O

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    We don't even attempt that route with Jarvis. Not that very many QB's can place it like Alex did, but you would think 3 coaches and multiple coordinators would've tried.
     
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  21. shamegame13

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    He’ll be used like that more next year with a different team. Bet your bottom dollar. He made plays downfield at LSU too.
     
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  22. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    Well it's the Pro Bowl but Landry certainly didn't hurt his arguments for getting paid.

     
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  23. Fin-O

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    Yep,
    Players and coaches likely have fallen in love with his passion.

    We aren't getting him for anything less than the tag.
     
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  24. shamegame13

    shamegame13 Madison & Surtain

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    Our FO is now wondering which different way they can tear down Jarvis’ name to the media for the sake of saving a few dollars and trying to turn him off to other teams (as if me and the rest of the world don’t know what angle they are trying to work). But, all that the other teams have to do is bring him in for a meeting if they are that concerned and like clockwork, on site, those teams will instantly fall in love with Jarvis and back up the brinks truck happily, leaving us with Kenyan Drake as our lone weapon.... Hope Drake wears the black adidas and not the white ones....
     
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  25. Galant

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  26. Galant

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    I think the reality here is there are two options:

    1 - Believe Landry is a talent and pay him what he's asking and then find more ways to utilise his talents beyond short crossing routes.
    2 - Decide that all you want is a WR to run short/crossing routes, let Landry go and find someone else.
     
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  27. Galant

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  28. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    Wrong... One out of 4 games is not "each time"

    Versus the Titans...3 receptions for 28 yards
    Jets...3 receptions for 33 yards
    Buffalo...3 receptions for 29 yards

    2nd game versus the Jets...3 receptions for 108 yards

    He's only had 7 one hundred yard games out of 64 WONDER WHY?
    Antonio Brown had 8 one hundred yard games last season and he missed 2 games...That's a true #1 wide receiver
     
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  29. Galant

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    Count Joe Schad as officially among the #keeplandry crowd:

     
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  30. Galant

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    Longest play of the Pro Bowl.....

     
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  32. Galant

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    This contract is a really interesting one to me.

    I started out not too concerned if he left, and in some ways that's the same. If Gase and co. are confident to let him go for whatever reason, then fine.

    However, the more I look at it, the more I think I'll feel cheesed off IF we see Landry go somewhere else and see Landry proving himself to be a versatile WR capable of a lot more than the Dolphins have done with him so far.

    If the problem is usage and scheme then that will be frustrating because Landry was a Dolphins draft pick gone right - a solid find in the draft - and to lose a home grown talent because the coaches couldn't figure out how to use him would be really annoying.

    At the end of the day, if Gase has a plan, without Landry, and makes it work, then fine. Ultimately it doesn't matter, and you don't want to see cap space being abused. However, losing drafted talent because of a lack of foresight is a problem that needs to get fixed.
     
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  33. shamegame13

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    He had 4 catches for 103 yards week 13 and 3 for 108 week 14..... get your facts right before you come out here saying wrong.... you look dumb in the end. Just saying.

    Who compares Landry to AB? You are def the first I’ve seen lol

    One guy runs 3 yard routes and the other gets the whole route tree.... I wonder who would have more yards because I don’t know football seemingly like you.... don’t ever compare a slot to a #1 again. Thanks.
     
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  34. Galant

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    Alright, I think I'm ready to take a stance on the Landry situation. Here's my position:

    Losing Landry for nothing is just unacceptable. The only way to get value from him is to play him or trade him. Landry could well be capable of giving the Dolphins more than they have been getting, but they need to try it. If they can't or won't, then they know there's a market for Landry, so you trade him.

    There are risks, sure, and maybe this year's cap hit is the worst problem, but the potential pay off, either way, is worth it.

    So in summary:

    1 - You pay Landry, even if it's expensive but in-line with the market.
    2 - You then have two options
    2a - Gase tries to use Landry in a more versatile way, in line with the new contract paid him.
    2b - If Gase can't or doesn't want to use Landry in that way, then you trade Landry.
     
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  35. Galant

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    Jarvis Landry Pro Bowl Highlights videos:




     
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  36. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    Where's everybody gone?

    I post a couple of messages and everyone's vanished.

    I apologise profusely for whatever I said or did!

    :D
     
  37. RGF

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    You know exactly what you did. Dont play coy with us ,sir.
     
  38. bigballa2102

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    here's my question, what receiver in this league can do what Landry does for us at 10-12 million a year? that's t he question and I see a lot of people saying let him walk or test the market well who can replace his productivity passion and strength?
     
  39. resnor

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    His productivity isn't hard to replicate. Strength? Plenty of strong dudes playing slot. Passion? Might be harder to replace, but if his passion leads to outbursts and stupid penalties like this season, it's a detriment to the team.

    Watching that Pro Bowl play...lmao. as expected, the defender wasn't even trying. He was like 12 yards off of Landry at the snap, and he let Landry run by him in a straight line. And Landry isn't fast. Not like that was Wallace or Ginn, or someone with 4.4 speed running that route.
     
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  40. Galant

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    There's an interesting stat:

     
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