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How much faith do u have in front office?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by pumpdogs, Feb 23, 2018.

  1. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    How likely do see this front office with all these bad contracts turning the 2018 season around?
    I personally have no faith and forsee another 6-10-8-8 season.The question will be if this comes true will Ross fire Tannebum?
     
  2. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    My head hurt reading this.
     
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  3. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I have a ton of faith in the front office personally. I know that a lot of people can't see it, but the team has become considerably younger in recent years and I've been very happy with the drafts. I'm not sure which contracts you're talking about being bad- maybe Pouncey, Suh and Landry? Or Tannehill?

    For both Pouncey and Suh, they were the best in the league for their respective positions when they signed those contracts. That doesn't make them bad- it just means they got paid a fair value. The same goes for Tannehill and Cutler- Smoking Jay in particular since we had to sign a starter within 24 hours.

    And on Landry, he was demanding $16M+ a year and that's what the franchise tag would cost- why lock him up in a contract with his temper tantrums without seeing what 2018 brings? It was a smart move to franchise him and if he walks, we pick up a pair of 1st round picks as compensation. That's a huge win/win either way and I don't think anyone will pay that price.
     
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  4. Phins_to_Win

    Phins_to_Win Well-Known Member

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    I've been overall unhappy with our drafting till last year. I actually felt like we walked away last year with some good talent and immediate impact players. Another draft like that will go along way to giving me confidence. However, 2 things still have me worried. We once again find ourselves unable to find value in Free Agency. We need to figure this out, cause its getting embarrassing to keep having our big FA moves turn into busts. And secondly, I'm not a fan of current contracts, and I don't have confidence that we will start making better deals with Tannenbaum in the position of power. He needs to NOT do what he did for the Jets...
     
  5. mooseguts

    mooseguts Well-Known Member

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    I have as much faith in our front office as I do in me getting drafted this year as a 32 year old prospect with 5.8 speed.
     
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  6. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    The front office has not yet proven itself trustworthy, but this is pretty much the make-or-break season for both them and Gase. Real, solid progress in building a contending team, or get ready to start over in 2019.

    Actually, given how Ross operates, he'll give them half of 2019 before cleaning house and starting again in 2020.
     
  7. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I have faith in everyone except Tannenbaum
     
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  8. mooseguts

    mooseguts Well-Known Member

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    I would prefer instead of getting considerably younger they get considerably better. What does youth matter without blue chip talent? In the last 3 drafts have we drafted started any pro bowl/all pro type of players. All we have is a bunch of guy with "potential". Potential just means you haven't done it yet.

    Bad contracts in Suh, Hayes, Kiko, TJ McDonald, Julius Thomas for starters. Saying Suh was the best at his position does not justify paying a DT QB money especially on a team that was not 1 player away. Theres only 2-3 players defensively you pay that kind of money to and you have to be one of the 2-3 best defensive players in the NFL regardless of position which Suh has not been. IMO only Watt deserves that kind of money. I don't have a problem with the Pouncey contract but he was never the best at his position. 0 All pro selections in his career say otherwise.

    We didn't have to sign a starter in 24 hours they panicked and signed Cutler. We could have started Matt Moore or literally anyone else besides Cutler.

    Landry was never demanding 16M+ he wanted top 5 WR money in the 14M range. Why is it when its WR its temper tantrums and when its a QB its a fiery nature or a passionate leader? Is Landry the most penalized WR in the league? Nope, was even the most penalized WR on our team? Nope. Is he the best WR we've drafted in the last 20 years? Yep.
     
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  9. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Tannenbaum is the person in charge of football operations. So he is responsible for the hiring of the GM, all the scouts, and ultimately the players signed in free agency and drafted on draft day.

    Therefore if you have no faith in Tannenbaum, it is difficult to see how you can have faith in the people he is responsible for hiring.

    Personally I don’t see this organization being anything but mediocre at best, as long as Tannenbaum
    has anything to do with the running of football operations.
     
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  10. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Hayes was not a bad contract. TJ's isn't bad either, even though it may have been given before thought it should.
     
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  11. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Have you never worked in an organization before?

    I think Tannenbaum hires good people. I do not think he is good when he doesn't listen to them.
     
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  12. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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  13. phinswolverinesrockets

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  14. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    More confidence on the drafting side of things as of late, less confidence on those responsible for identifying worthwhile free agents.
     
  15. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Obviously you and I disagree with regards to Tannenbaum hiring good people. I think the front office and the coaching staff is full of mediocre individuals. As well as the talent on the roster being overall mediocre at best.

    Therefore the organization has been and will remain mediocre as long as the owner continues to be
    content with with inferior staff throughout the organization.
     
  16. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    How much insider information do you have?
     
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  17. mooseguts

    mooseguts Well-Known Member

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    Yeah you're right its not Hayes its Branch with the bad contract. I feel McDonald is more of a SS so in essence with have 2 SS making it a bad contract imo.
     
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  18. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    Branch, Kiko, Suh, Pouncey, Tannehill and now Landry all have big overpaid contracts which have us in a very bad cap position for mediocre play.
     
  19. Pauly

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    I think drafting has generally been pretty good over the last few years, with the exception of OL, as you expect a team to be able to develop at least one or 2 lower round picks into serviceable starters. Also the more or less complete failure to acquire decent long term FA OL is disastrous. So whoever in the FO has responsibility for drafting/signing OL needs to be fired 2 years ago.

    The ongoing failure at LB has more to do with the FO expecting 5th and 6th rounders and UDFAs to perform at probowl level. Again like the OL we’ve crapped out in 5he FA market too.

    What I see as the biggest problem with the FO is not signing our quality players we developed when we had the chance (olivier Vernon, Rishaad Mathews, Lamar Miller) and then messing up FA contracts.

    Drafting wise, they get at leats a B from me.
    Free agency gets a D-.
     
  20. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Tannabaums job is to put a winning team to together and so far he has failed In 3 years 22-26.I feel better if we went 6-10 first 2 years and then 10-6 last year which means we would be trending up.But after year 3 we are trending down and now have a overpriced bad team.
    The only way this team will be saved if Ross sells to a new owner that's has a clue.
    Since 1996 only 9 teams haven't played in a Nfc or Afc championship.Yep we are on that list.
     
  21. Drizzy

    Drizzy Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Why would I have faith in them?
     

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