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New WR incoming - Albert Wilson

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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  2. Surfs Up 99

    Surfs Up 99 Team Flores & Team Tua

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    Me likey!
     
  3. Not So Fast

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    So we got our Landry replacement. Now get a TE.
     
  4. Walter

    Walter Well-Known Member

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    Barry Jackson‏Verified account @flasportsbuzz 12m12 minutes ago


    With new WR in place (Albert Wilson), Dolphins moving on to other positions. They're among teams in mix for Carolina FA TE Ed Dickson.



    Dickson has been a serviceable No. 2 tight end, but he's not a starting solution. The 30-year-old averaged 18.4 catches over the last five seasons. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
     
  5. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Give him all the targets landry got and watch him produce just as well or better.
     
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  6. Mafioso

    Mafioso Air Force's #1 Phin Fan

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    I don't know much about him. All I know is that he is faster than Jarvis. I watched some you tube highlights (not a true gage of analyzing a player lol) and it looks like mostly screens. But hey that's more than I knew about him before lol. Didnt look like he caught the ball as smoothly as Jarvis, but few guys have those kind if hands. Addiing that 4.3 speed element at least opens the playbook more for us.

    Anyway, do you guys think that 8mil a year is good value for wilson? Do you think we take a receiver high in the draft given this signing?
     
  7. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    oh god not ed dickson pls maybe like 5 years ago he's worth the chance, but not anymore.
     
  8. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Once again Tannebaum signs a mediocre player to a contract for money no other team would pay this player.
    Perhaps a two year contact for $5 million would have been worth the risk but three years for $24 million for a player who has accomplished nothing in the NFL, just shows how clueless Tannebaum is.
     
  9. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, most FAs sign for deals that other teams wouldn't pay. That's sorta how it works.
     
  10. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    From what I've read he's another Chris Chambers type, in that he makes the hard catch and drops the easy one.
     
  11. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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  12. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Or Jarvis Landry.
     
  13. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Did we lose faith in Carroo?
    This is really just a typical "Dolphins" signing. This guy couldn't take the job in Kansas City despite them always being thin at Wide Receiver. What's the thought on him as a player? I've seen him play a few times over the years with the Chiefs. He's made some plays, I hear he's a good blocker, but can someone that's actually watched a whole lot of him tell us more? He couldn't have a more boring name....Albert Wilson....Lol total Miami signing. Hopefully this works out, he seems to be a player that many sleep on.
     
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  14. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    You have to overpay in free agency. Good signing.
     
  15. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    I really can't see how some think we overpaid for Wilson. He was a solid, fast, very smart player for KC. That team was loaded with talent and I'd presume that's why his stats aren't better (Not that they're bad) and he didn't catch more balls.

    I'm really good friend's with one of my wife's cousins. He has been a lifelong fan of theirs and actually did scoreboard work for them when younger. (He works for Mariners now) As soon as this deal happened he text me and told me that we are going to love Wilson. He couldn't stop talking about how smart this kid is.

    He's only 25. He's very smart. He was a very good QB for Port St. Lucie High School. He's really fast. He has 124 catches, 1,544 yards with a 12.5 Y/R and seven touchdowns in 26 starts. (He's played in around 50 games, but only started 26).

    Last season he had 42 rec for 554 yards and 3 TD's in 7 starts (13 games played). If he gets 80 catches he has more yards than when Jarvis catches 100+ balls.

    So, Wilson at $8m or Jarvis at $16m?
     
  16. Base of Gase

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    Contract seems high for an unproven player that was the fourth option on the Chiefs, and has never been anywhere close to the plateaus of double digit touchdowns or 1,000 yard season.

    That said, I like Albert Wilson the player. He has some serious jets and quickness, it just remains to be seen how well he will integrate with Gase’s schemes. He wasn’t highlighted as much as he should have been Kansas City, so there’s the hope for untapped potential locked away and coming to bloom with the Fins.

    We’ll see.
     
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  17. Wilkimania

    Wilkimania Well-Known Member

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    Seems like one of those contracts where if everything clicks between QB and receiver then we're sat here in a years time laughing about what a steal this contract is. Definitely the potential is there for this to be a good deal, and the fact that our receivers seem to mostly be rapid allows for interesting plays to be drawn up.
     
  18. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    I'm not going to bash the signing anymore than I already have because #1 i'm a piece of **** jackass that doesn't know really anything about the guy, #2 I've been snakebit so many times with signings like that by this organization that I have come to expect the worst.
    Hopefully this works out, we need something to go our way for a change. I guess they don't believe in Carroo? Surely we didn't just sign Albert Wilson at 8 million a season for depth purposes right?
     
  19. jeremy2020

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    Did you know Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard and scored a 40 on the wonderlic? He's super smart and the best QB in football.
     
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  20. Base of Gase

    Base of Gase Active Member

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    Yeah, see that’s the rub of it. The Carroo blunder was a big waste of resources, and they can’t wipe that egg of their faces.

    It didn’t make any sense at the time, and it still doesn’t make any sense today.
     
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  21. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Did you know that Fitz is smart but not a very good QB?

    Did you know that Wilson is smart and a good WR?
     
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  22. KeyFin

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    Isn't that the plot line for the movie Deliverance? LOL
     
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  23. hitman8

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    It's an ok signing, cintract is too pricey but he is a pretty good player. Asking Tbaum to not overpay players is too much to ask apparently.
     
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  24. jw3102

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    Please tell me exactly what he has shown during his time in the league that makes him worth $8 million dollars a year?

    The one thing Tannebaum has clearly shown is that he has no problem vastly overpaying mediocre talent. I have zero faith in Tannebaum and therefore I already expect this signing to be a complete
    waste of money. Terrible signing IMO.
     
  25. pumpdogs

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    What do you mean?A best in 4 seasons of 564 yds is good for at least 10 mil a year.We got a steal.
    What a joke.Let's keep ignoring the guard postion.
     
  26. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    How did I miss this? You can merge mine.
     
  27. Galant

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  28. Dorfdad

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    At least with Wilson were getting a semi younger player. We seem to like 30+ aged players for some reason. I just hope we have someone able to thread the needle and get him those tight zone balls. If were going to spend money go younger so we have some upswing! Were not paying for their retirement in Miami!
     
  29. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    No. That's I'm the father of one of my wifes cousins.
     
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  30. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    I had Wilson on a fantasy team last year and we get a few KC games out here. Alex Smith played HS ball about 15 miles from home. So I watch a few KC games here and there. We absolutely got better at WR with this signing. Bank it. That kid can ball. He returned kicks a bit when Tyreek Hill was down too.

    Think we overpaid? Look at what Sammy Watkins just got. Or How about Paul Richardson from the Shehacks just got 12 mill a yr.
    EDIT: 8 miliion yr
    Good player, right price. Great move IMO.

    Amendola on the other hand...
     
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  31. mooseguts

    mooseguts Well-Known Member

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    8 million? Aren't we hurting cap wise? 8 million for an average WR? And people are defending this lol? This must have been what it was like for Lions fan's when Millen was in charge and made bone headed signings, I'm sure the loyalist would defend him with vigor. Albert Wilson types can be found and replaced in any draft. He has average production, we could have easily utilized Grant and drafted a WR and not wasted 8 million. We could have signed a TE/OG but no 8 million for a 3rd/4th wr is way more important. Skill position over trench players right?
     
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  32. pumpdogs

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    Albert Wilson (3.5 million per year max)

    Albert Wilson had his best year as a Chief in 2017. In large part that was because the offense found something of a niche for him and stopped asking him to do things he’s not good at. He has some valuable skills after the catch, is able to get separation on short routes (he can get separation deep too, but his lack of ball skills renders that moot), and is a very good blocker.

    Wilson’s value to the offense has gone, in my opinion, from a little underrated to a little overrated with his performance this last season. Some people correlate the Chiefs’ offensive futility with his absence, and I think that’s a drastic oversimplification (he was maybe 4th or 5th on the list of problems in my opinion).
    This is from chiefs superbowl nation.This what they thought he was worth.
     
  33. mooseguts

    mooseguts Well-Known Member

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    Not saying he's a bad player I'm sure he's decent but 8 million for decent? I'm not sure if your saying he's getting 3.5 miller per year or if you're saying that's what he's worth.
     
  34. pumpdogs

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    The writer is saying he is only worth 3.5 million.
     
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  35. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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  36. jw3102

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    If the Dolphins are going after players simply because they are smart. They should trade Tannehill immediately and do whatever is necessary to trade up and ensure they draft Baker Mayfield. Because reports are that his football IQ is far greater than any QB in this years draft and one of the highest ever tested.

    I have no problem with drafting and signing smart players. I just wonder why the Chiefs were willing to pay Sammy Watkins nearly twice what Wilson is signing for if Wilson is such a great player.

    Watkins has never been the player his was projected to be when the Bills drafted him. Yet the Chiefs, a much better team than the Dolphins, would rather take a chance on Watkins while letting Wilson walk.

    When it comes to player evaluation, the Chiefs are clearly better than the Dolphins and therefore they obviously felt Watkins was a major upgrade over Wilson.

    I suspect that a year from now Wilson will be cut and the Dolphins will have wasted more of Ross’s money.
     
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  37. mooseguts

    mooseguts Well-Known Member

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    I choose neither. I don't think anyone is denying he's a solid WR but as you just posted 42 rec 554 and 3 TD's is just solid production that many ordinary WR's can accumulate. I'm sure if given the opportunity Jakeem Grant can post those numbers. He was also part of that infamous WR group that scored 0 TD's in 2014. He's a dime a dozen WR and were paying 80 million dimes a year.
     
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  38. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Wait ...... you're asking these guys to wait on final contract numbers? Good luck with that one - they're on suicide watch already.
     
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  39. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    The hell do we care about a WR group from 2014 when he was a rookie? There's really no much football talk going on - it's just seething sarcasm.
     
  40. Patster1969

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    Also, the majority of KC's game plan was around the TE (Kelce?), QB keepers with Smith, end arounds/short throws to Hill & the rookie RB - their WR's seemed to be very low on the priority list.
    I'm hoping for good things but we have been here before
     

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