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New WR incoming - Albert Wilson

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. Patster1969

    Patster1969 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think teams are intrigued with Watkin's size/speed and they probably wanted to give Mahomes another big body alongside the TE - they also love Hill's skillset and probably want to give him more opportunities.
    They have teased us with the terms of the contract - let's see what they have given Wilson before we burn Hard Rock Stadium down
     
  2. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    He started 7 games last year.

    I think Jarvis was a great player for this team, but I think his production was a product of two things.

    1) He demanded the ball at all times.
    2) He got the ball more than anyone.

    He didn't get separation. He wasn't going to outrun many people with his average speed.

    Wilson and Grant, if they split Jarvis' touches, will have more yards and more TD's based off of their averages. To top it off, a faster Landry divided in two will give defenses a big fit in coverage. Grant and Wilson, if used this way, will divide the field, open up more opportunities for Parker and Stills, and help the rushing game.

    Again, some people are trying to look at this the wrong way. Paying $8m for a fast, smart, proven WR is not overpaying. Paying $16m for an average speed, smart, proven WR is overpaying. And saying you would choose neither is not reality. The Dolphins needed to replace Landry. They did that with a faster, smarter, less of a diva (by all accounts) WR.

    Part of the process of evaluating players is to have vision. How Wilson did in KC matters, but how will Wilson do in Miami? That's the question and that's what people get paid to do. That's what the draft and FA is about. And if you only go by what a player has done and not what he could possibly do, you'll never get anyone good. At least not with any regularity.

    Wilson has all the tools to become a threat in Miami. With him, their WR average speed is through the roof.


    Grant- 4.3 40
    Wilson- 4.4
    Stills- 4.3
    Parker-4.4
     
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  3. tirty8

    tirty8 Well-Known Member

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    Uhhhh... This is the Dolphins in a nutshell. Don't overpay your own guys - overpay someone else's guys. I thought a wiser allocation of money would be to have signed Amendola and then added a player in the draft.

    I think Grant is similar in body type skillset and showed promise late in the season. Amendola should have been our starting slot WR with Grant/rookie in situational sets/spot starts due to the injuries Amendola will certainly have.
     
  4. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Wilson's contract won't force the team to salary dump at a later date. That's what a $16 million wideout would do though.
     
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  5. 1966 Fin Fan

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    First post here on the forum.....

    I am not sure about this signing. No one is. Was he paid too much? Probably, but who knows.

    I do know this kid has speed and fire. He is tough and runs good routes. He is a fighter with yac. He has been buried as the number 4 option behind Tyreek Hill, Kelce and Hunt.

    I like the signing and expect big things from him......we shall see!
     
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  6. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Welcome man
     
  7. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Let’s start with Football Outsiders. For wide receivers, they have developed three complex statistical formulas.
    They are called: 1) Defense Adjusted Yards Above Replacement 2) Yards Above Replacement and 3) Defense Adjusted Value Over Average.
    Without going into every detail just know that these formulas include factors that extend well beyond net yardage by assigning every single play a value based on both total yards and yards towards a first down.
    Let’s also explain that for 2017, Football Outsiders ranked the three wide receivers discussed here as: 1) Albert Wilson 2) Danny Amendola 3) Jarvis Landry.
    In other words, despite all of Landry’s catches (a league-leading 112), Football Outsiders is suggested the Dolphins may have been better served with Jay Cutler tossing some of those passes toward someone like — Albert or Amendola.
    Taking into account an average of the three above-discussed formulas, for 2017, Football Outsiders ranked them as such:
    Wilson (17th); Amendola (30th) and Landry (53rd).
    This is not to suggest Landry is not the best player in the group. We’re just suggesting, again, that some advanced metrics are at work against Landry and for the others.
    The NFL has been working on some new ways to evaluate and compare players and a few of their Next Gen Stats are revealing for purposes of our comparison.
    Here’s how the three ranked last season in yards downfield before a pass attempt: Amendola (8.0), Landry (6.4), Wilson (6.4).
    So, yes, Landry and Wilson have both been similarly utilized as very quick-touch players.
    Here’s how the three rank in yards between them and the nearest defender at the time of a catch or incompletion: Wilson (1st), Landry (18th), Amendola (41st).
    Come again? That’s right. According to NFL Next Gen stats, no player had more average separation than the 4.1 yards Wilson put between himself and defenders. How? He’s quick, that’s how.
    Now, will Wilson and Amendola be as productive in 2018 at the statistics indicate they might?
    We’ll all learn together.

    http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachp...rics-show-amendola-wilson-can-replace-landry/
     
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  8. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    I like that stat.
     
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    Welcome to the site!
     

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