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***The Official Miami Dolphins Draft Day Thread***

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by The_Dark_Knight, Apr 26, 2018.

  1. hazed819

    hazed819 Well-Known Member

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    The unfortunate reality of the situation.
    Maybe our defense can be lights out and Tannehill can Dilfer his way to a Super Bowl win :)

    Jokes aside if he can play like he did 2014, 2015 numbers wise you really cant ask for more out the position unless you got a guy like a Rodgers or Brady which he'll never be.
     
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  2. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    I'll take a healthy version of the mid-late season 2016 Tanny and feel good about our odds of being a playoff team. We may get four games against rookie QBs this year, which is a nice thought. Let's see how the rest of the draft plays out and we can evaluate the team after that.
     
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  3. Zigs

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    Not that it matters much but Tannehill was a QB coming into college, played WR at times for the Aggies because they needed help there.

    The reason I was all in for Rosen is because Tannehill is coming off 2 consecutive knee injuries to the same knee. He could be 1 knee injury away from retirement. I have zero faith at this time with our backups.

    I do believe at some point in this draft the Dolphins have to pick a QB.
     
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  4. Carmen Cygni

    Carmen Cygni Well-Known Member

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  5. Csonka Marino

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    Well it seems the Bills stole my draft. Allen and Edmunds. It was a Dolphins dream draft I posted months ago. I hope the Dolphins draft Rudolph in the second round. I hope the Patriots do not draft him.
     
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  6. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Ryan will make that dude look silly, he dropped for a reason.
     
  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He better lose 100lbs if he’s gonna ride bikes to compete.
     
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  9. jdallen1222

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    When? When will all his hype come to fruition? Does Josh Allen have that much work to do to outshine Tannehill at this point? He could potentially do it in 2 consecutive games.
     
  10. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    As a whole he did play at a top 10ish level for about a 6 game stretch before the injury.

    I think if he plays at that level cocnistently (yes I know he never has) then we will be just fine.
     
  11. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Shifting our backup QB hopes to Kyle Lauletta being drafted tonight.
     
  12. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    I'd take him over Falk or Rudolph. I'm not really into any of the lower round guys this year though. I seriously question if he will be available in round 3 though, and I don't want to blow our 2nd on a QB. We need a TE and LB badly.

    Exactly - I have no doubt he thinks it fun, but I also think it was a dig/shot at BB as much as anything. Rumors were that Gronk was a bit unhappy with his contract.

    Pretty much my mind right now as well. I feel he has a high bust potential ... but he also has a high boom potential. It's just hard to tell without him being an elite athlete. Saban's DBs seem to struggle in the NFL, hopefully Minkah will be an exception. He sounds like a good dude though, hopefully he can help light a fire, we need a bit more of an edge.

    I heard that this was his last guaranteed year, so it's a pretty savvy move to snag a playmaker like Jackson at the tail end of round 1 to add that 5th year option. Flacco has been average to bad lately - he has this year essentially to ball out and prove himself again. Sad that Jackson didn't make it to us in round 2, but him getting out of round 1 would have been a complete travesty.
     
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  13. Phin McCool

    Phin McCool Well-Known Member

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    I think we need to be looking to one of Lauletta, Rudolph or Falk. We can't be going into the season with Osweiler and Fales as back ups.

    Lots of mocks having NE taking Lauletta at 43.
     
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  14. eltos_lightfoot

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    I don't understand the negative takes for Fitzpatrick. I was hoping for either Derwin James or him due to their elite leadership skills. But now that we have the guy, let's dive into some points of clarity for Minkah.

    Read this article again first: https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/12/19/minkah-fitzpatrick-alabama-crimson-tide-playoff-nfl

    1. Remember when Charles Harris talked about Wake and how there is no way he can maintain the diet and exercise routine of our kraken? Yeah, good times. Maybe Charles works out, maybe he doesn't (pun intended), but Minkah will dominate learning from a guy like Wake. He will listen and absorb every mote of information from Wake.

    2. This kid's upbringing won't allow him to fail. Read this article on being homeless after a hurricane: http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2015/10/from_the_peanut_butter_room_to.html

    "At 12, Minkah had looked disdainfully at teammates splashing in the pool the night before the Pop Warner championship game at Disney World. He grumbled about the right way to prepare. His parents relate the story with a chuckle, but the moment still annoys Fitzpatrick. 'I just think if you’re going to do something,' he says, 'you should be great.'" --from the SI article

    "The parents stressed that you earn your future in this world. Minkah Sr. took his son to the shop where he works 70-hour weeks as a diesel mechanic and volunteered him for the dirtiest, heaviest jobs. 'If you don’t want to be here forever,' he would remind the boy, 'you better keep those grades up.'" --from the SI article

    "The junior Alabama defensive back is meticulous in all aspects of his life, sometimes to the exhaustion of those around him. Fitzpatrick attributes the Tide’s crushing loss in last season’s championship game against Clemson to 'people coming late to a meeting or just not wearing the right socks.' He acknowledges that he may sound insane but adds, 'If you can’t do the small things right, how can you expect to do the big things?”' --SI article

    3. This kid will not be hanging out at strip joints or beating his girlfriend (allegedly):

    "His parents worry about him, although not for the typical college-student reasons. Friends say that Fitzpatrick, 21, abstains from drugs and alcohol. His parents get his (mostly good) grades forwarded to them on Thursdays. They make the 15‑hour drive from Old Bridge, N.J., to games once a month and know his whole crew. The cleaning staff at the football facility once thanked them for raising such a nice boy. Minkah Sr. and Melissa are not concerned that their son will end up on the wrong path; they just wish that every once in a while he could take a moment to notice when he crests a hill." --you guessed it, SI article

    "But the real fit was with coach Nick Saban. They knew that the man who had once complained that winning a national title had cost him a week of recruiting would understand their son. Rich Hansen likes to tell the story of when the Marauders won the state championship Minkah’s senior year. Hansen called the next morning to congratulate his star. Minkah couldn’t talk. He was in the middle of a workout." --SI article


    4. The Alabama criticisms, which are really Saban criticisms. Everyone gets praised heaped upon them from Alabama. Okay, show me where other players are getting these types of superlatives said about them:

    "Still, all new Alabama players take a personality test when they arrive, so coaches can adjust to their learning styles. In the years it has been administered, no one has scored closer to Saban’s personality type than Fitzpatrick."

    These five paragraphs from the SI article:

    He spent spring break of his senior year standing on the sideline at Tide practice, preparing himself for the fall. He uses his Sundays to watch film with coaches. Alabama staffers trade stories of walking into a dark Mal Moore Athletic Complex after hours to find one screen ablaze, Fitzpatrick pausing and rewinding.

    “He’s the standard of the program,” says junior running back Damien Harris, a top NFL prospect who credits his success this year to his offseason of working out with Fitzpatrick. Teammates refer to Fitzpatrick as “Coach Saban’s son,” because he’s the only person whose performance reliably makes the famously stone-faced coach smile.

    “I just like being around him,” Saban says. “I like the way he goes about his work. It’s fun to see him improve and take on new challenges. He’s just one of those favorite guys.”

    Saban likes to say, “You can either suffer the pain of discipline or the pain of disappointment,” and Fitzpatrick parrots the phrase even off the field. When the Tide won that championship game his freshman year, he called Hansen to apologize for his poor performance. He once looked so distraught on the sideline that Harris asked him what was wrong. “I missed an assignment,” he said. “Dude,” Harris said, “We’re up by 40.”

    Chuck Morris, a performance coach who works with Fitzpatrick in the offseason, disputes the terminology most people use to describe his protégé’s self-flagellation. “Hard on yourself is an emotion,” he says. “He strives for excellence, which is purposeful.”

    Now let's talk about measurables, briefly. The dude has them. Plain and simple. Does Derwin James have better? Yes, but that doesn't mean that Minkah is Jarvis Landry in the forty, or can't lift some weight. 4.46 in the forty, with a 1.52 ten yard split? More than enough. 14 bench reps is just fine. 6.73 cone, again, great. 4.13 shuttle, again, more than adequate.

    I know some posters are saying he doesn't look good on tape at times. Well, okay. That is also true for everyone. I believe with the way this guy is wired, he probably would agree and try to get better. In fact he is probably hitting a weight room right now.

    Think this guy will have a problem studying his play book at home? Me neither.
     
  15. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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  16. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    I agree completely. For the life of me I cant grasp why some are down on him or disappointed, other than the guy they wanted wasnt picked. Heck both of the guys I had wanted were still there but none thought Fitzpatrick would be there at 11.
     
  17. NCPhinFan

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    I like the Minkah pick. If Howard, Tankersley, and Lippett continue to improve, the Dolphins are going to have a heck of a secondary with Minkah and Reshad Jones as the safeties. I'd like to see the Dolphins go TE, LB, or QB in round 2.
     
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  19. hazed819

    hazed819 Well-Known Member

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    Here's a thought
    We are one tackle away from Brock Osweiler being our starting QB
    Hopefully that gets addressed
     
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  20. djphinfan

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    I just meant edmunds against the play action ability of ryan tannehill will not be a good look for Edmunds..
     
  21. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    whos dissapointed?folks that wanted edmunds or james?
     
  22. Hoops

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    Ryan tannehill stays healthy we are fine. He doesn’t I don’t think there’s any better developmental option for our style o which relies on ball placement and rac than Luke falk.

    Might have to beat some other teams to the punch though.

    We better hope tremaine Edmunds doesn’t reach his ceiling in Buffalo. Gonna be a long decade of bone crushing if he does.
     
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  23. Phin McCool

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    I feel ever so slightly uneasy with that... :couch:
     
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  24. Fin-O

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    TE/LB/QB......

    Should be an interesting day.
     
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  25. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    I can't see the logic in drafting a QB in the 3rd or 4th rounds. They'll obviously never be starting caliber otherwise they would have been taken in the first round...and not even those are guaranteed.
     
  26. hitman8

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    I guess you are not familiar with a guy named Tom Brady, fifth rounder. Guys fall through the cracks all the time some of the best players un our team like wake and reshad jones were undrafted or fifth round picks.
     
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  27. Dorfdad

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    What really bothers me is New England was looking at major issue on the line and in less than 24 hours they have fixed and improved their line. While 10 years later were still working on ours!

    If I was a betting man, New England is gearing up for a new offense built around the run. Especially knowing Brady is near the end you grab some road graders and a RB to ease a new QB into the system. The East is gearing up for covering wideouts but we need to address the linebackers ASAP our we will be be Nicole and dined for 4-6 per carry
     
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  28. RevRick

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    I trust Brock Osweiller about as far as I can throw a fit. If Mason Rudolph makes it past the first nine picks... grab'em! And groom him in case of when Tannehill's knee acts like a winging barroom door or he begins to really suck as bad as some Marino spoiled kids think!
     
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  29. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Not every 5th round QB is Tom Brady. They're more often than not a Cleo Lemon.
     
  30. danmarino

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    This is one of those huge misconceptions that I just can't let slide.

    RT was NEVER a WR turned QB. Never. He is a QB that played WR for a season or two in college while he waited to be a starter at QB.

    Brady was 30 years old before he started to emulate an elite QB and that's with his coaches cheating for him. Rodgers sat the bench for 3 years (RT has only really played 4 years) before he even started a game. Saying that a 30 year old QB, in today's game, has peaked is just wrong.
     
  31. Fin-O

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    Well we are in rounds 2-3 tonight, so if they draft someone that high, I’m guessing they think he can be developed into a franchise guy at some point.
     
  32. Nappy Roots

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    You take your shots at the most important position in sports...well because its the most important position in sports. Stats say banking on a 3rd or 4th rounder being a starter at any position isnt wise.
     
  33. The_Dark_Knight

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    Wait...isn't that called an experiment? I thought so many of you were tired of the "Tannehill Experiment" and yet, you're willing to do it again?

    My head hurts
     
  34. jdallen1222

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    Carmen said something like that in the Minkah thread yesterday.
     
  35. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Hurts? it doesn’t work well.

    You said “you” yet I have never said anything of the such.

    Please do the proper research before making false accusations. That’s not cool
     
  36. Hoops

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    I think at this point no matter what we do qb wise tanny gets hurt seasons over.

    I doubt gase green lights the style of o Rudolph comes from but you never know. Whatever gase does at qb now that the top prospects are gone I’m just gonna roll with it but I don’t love the positional value options at 42. And I see some of these guys as 2 deep lifer types.

    And Brock osweiler? Even gase knows he can’t hide that exposure but so much.
     
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  37. Surfs Up 99

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    Please, no QB in round 2.
     
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  38. Tin Indian

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    I have not been enamored with any of the qbs in this class. Im actually excited the Jets took another shot on a USC qb in Darnold. That guy is a turnover waiting to happen, think it was 22 last year. 9 picks the year before, dont know how many fumbles.

    Allen may have a big arm but a sub 60% college compeletion percentage. These guys dont worry me much.
     
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  39. Surfs Up 99

    Surfs Up 99 Team Flores & Team Tua

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    Getting excited about round 2 and 3 tonight. I don't really have a guy in mind. I think a lot of guys can help us. Grier said in his pre-draft presser that they factor in NEED with BPA. So, understanding that, I hope we continue to build on a great pick yesterday with BPA tonight. I know we need a TE, a backup QB to develop, and a LB. I really like Griffin, but if he or a TE or a QB isn't BPA, then I hope we don't force it.
     
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  40. josh

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    If we’re number 11 how come we don’t have the 43rd pick overall and instead have the 42nd? That doesn’t make any sense
     

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