watching this POS game in the Notheast and we’re so bad the announcers came on and said we’re going to switch to more competitive game for this who are still watching lol. National TV embarrassed again. Gase built this team and we have NO DEPTH the play calling has been sooooo pathetic that you can’t run and you only pass on 3-12 and only for 5 yards! Lol if this was any other team I’d be laughing my *** off. Gase should be on the HOT seat at 3-1 yes I said that! Your most important game on the road with the division lead plenty of momentum and against a team that can’t stoop the run or pass and you look like high schoolers!
Yeah, it go pulled out here on the West coast too, but it was a merciful act. National embarrassment for the Phins and the start of a downward spiral for the season.
I rarely get to see Miami play in my area. Finally a aired game, and they embarrass the city of Miami.
Because the Patriots have never done this before! The Patriots have never been written off to start a season then win 12 of the next 13! Never! Miami should have been able to go into New England as a HUGE underdog where NO ONE ever wins and gotten a victory there! It's still the Patriots. Guess what? Miami is gonna beat them in Miami later in the year barring any more major injuries. Some of you people are off your rocker.
Well it didnt get pulled for me because a pay a crap ton of money every year for Sunday ticket because it's to only way I can watch the phins get embarrassed out here in texas. I cant believe I pay for such emotional torture, but it's a sad sad addiction. I almost turned it off too...but I just couldn't. I knew we would lose but still wanted to see some glimmer of hope out of someone that would give me confidence going into next week. Nope that didnt happen. Quick let's go through the scripted series that is so predictable: 1st down and 10, play action that's over thrown. 2nd down and 10, pass that actually makes a first down Flag...holding james/tunsil 2nd and 20...let's trick them and run drake up the middle. They will never see it coming and hey at least well get something cuz if we pass and miss the last thing we want is 3rd and 20...run...stuffed in the face for no gain 3rd and 20 anyway, 3 yard crossing route or hitch (cuz he will surely break 10 tackles for the 1st down) (only 10 because the 11th guy will surely be teabagging tannehil in the back field with no flag)...gains 6 yards. Punt Rinse and repeat...except...insert a wr screen in there somewhere. Ok. I'm done venting, I feel better now. Better than yelling all this at my dog every sunday. As belecheat would say...were on to Cincinnati
I think many of us would feel a lot better with a loss at NE if our offense with our healthy starting QB who actually got a decent amount of protection during the game led the team to something more respectable than the following sequence of drives: Punt Punt Punt Punt Fumble Punt End of Half Punt Interception Punt .. and ZERO points. So it's not the loss per se, but HOW we lost that's the problem.
Exactly. The loss really doesnt hurt us too much overall, getting blown out and losing more guys to injury and the fact we got depantsed does.
I hope you are right. If I had to choose a coach right now, I'd take Jim Schwartz. He's a pretty tough guy and his teams play well. He plays the same style of D that we do, except he wouldn't have the wusses and he wouldnt have a problem getting rid of Raekwon and Cordrea. Now we will need a QB. I like Ryan Finley out of NCST. He's smart. He's accurate with the football. He wins. He doesn't turn the ball over. If we just did those two things (new HC and new QB), we'd be light years ahead of where we are now. But I am not emotional really about either one of those guys. There are people you can hire to provide you the "best candidates"...choose one. I would then get an OC, maybe from college...maybe one of the DIV II head coaches who knows how to teach that has had success with great offenses. But again, that is just an idea. I don't care who the OC is, as long as its not Loggains or Christenson. You see the success of Chicago with a real QB and a real HC. That's what we need to replicate. Trubisky was worth the two first round picks. We need to do whatever is necessary to get the right QB. Of course, by season's end, we could be sitting at 4 or 5 and one could drop right in our laps. Maybe maybe not. The bottom line is we must get a QB in 2019.
Whats sickening to me is the mere fact that down 31 we were still running the ball and throwing screen passes, whomever is calling plays (gase) is an absolute moron, you could tell after the second series your game plan wasn't going to work yet he tried to pound a round peg in a square hole. RT was exactly who i thought he was in this game and so was gase. The defense produced 2 picks on Brady i cant tell you the last time Miami did that and yet we have nothing to show for it. It was an embarrassment all around, i will wait 1 more week to thoroughly start with feelings, it could have just been a 1 week thing (hopes!!!!!). Cincy is going to do the same crap NE did, they are gonna kill us with cross and seam routes and they are going to jam the receivers and there pass rush is way better than NE. these games make it hard to be a dolphins fan, miami all the stats and whatever you want to say about gase and RT they have a great record versus sucky teams. This team with rt or gase will never win back to back games against playoff caliper teams. oh well on to the next week to see which team shows up.
yes Chicago look what mayfield did for cleveland, that position makes the whole world and thats why i was so big on miami moving up to get Mayfield the dudes a gamer. Trubisky had a heck of a game yesterday, between philly, cleveland, chicago and the rams, there shouldn't really be any discussion of having a qb makes a world of difference, and we have a 7 year experiment that has done nothing but beat lousy teams. I fully expected RT to show me something yesterday, it was a first real test to this yr and this guys progress, and he is absolutely horrible over throws off targets and nothing to blame but himself he had plenty of time etc just was an all around horrible game for the guy.
I'm with you. I can't fully explain the X's and O's of NFL offenses but the transition from Tyrod Taylor to Baker Mayfield is about as ridiculous a shift as I've ever seen in football. The fact the Browns continuously started Taylor over Mayfield just shows that coaches have little knowledge of exactly how to evaluate the impact an individual QB is going to have. It seems to have a lot to do with how well someone can see the field, how fast they can process the information and how confident a guy is he can fit the ball into a tight window. Taylor couldn't find an open man and when he threw the ball, it was horribly off-target. While his mobility is/was admirable, he's clearly a horrible long-term option at QB because he can't run the show as a passer. Guys like Baker Mayfield and Deshaun Watson are not only accurate but they're very quick decision-makers, too. The fact they're agile in the pocket only makes them all the more deadly. Win or lose, watching guys like that executing their offenses in the 4th quarter makes clear they're on another level, beyond Tannehill. They're just faster. They do a better job of giving their guys a chance. Tannehill isn't especially agile in the pocket. His touch on short throws is average at best. His downfield accuracy comes and goes with his mechanics, which seem to fluctuate. What really seems to hold him back is vision and decision making. There are tons of situations where he checks it down despite a WR being open downfield. Those moments are especially damning. He just doesn't see everything the way the elite passers do and the fact he's not especially quick to get the ball out hurts him. He's a solid player, but he's not a franchise guy IMHO. I was really looking forward to the Dolphins drafting an alternative this season with all the guys in the draft. I just thought it was time for the franchise to move on and the draft seemed to line up with that. While I was fine with the Minkah selection given the options I feel the hype that I bought into with Tannehill this year might've been a lie. Right now Tannehill's 8.4 YPA and his 105 passer rating look pretty awesome. I'll give him that. However, the Oakland game is really inflating his surface-level stats, particularly those couple flip "passes" that went for big TDs. Remove those "passes" and his rating drops 10 points and his YPA looks like what it's pretty much always been. Moreover, what's the thing we always point out? He can't follow up his strong performances with more strong ones. Well, that's exactly what we got yesterday. While he looked sharp at home last week, he was as mediocre as mediocre gets yesterday. That's the sign of someone who's success isn't their own doing...it's a reflection of their competition. So it makes sense he's a .500 guy. If Tannehill strings together good games this year and produces 10 or 11 wins, great. But that seems highly unlikely.
Yeah I think it's clear by now that Tannehill can be an effective QB if enough pieces around him work as intended (and with a coach that believes in him), but you simply can't expect him to take over a game when needed and pull out the win. That trait (or lack thereof) will forever keep him out of the upper echelons of QB's unless he gets so lucky and plays with a great surrounding cast and coach the rest of his career, and for ANY team that's highly unlikely. I'm really happy we chose Minkah and didn't waste the pick (that guy looks really good), but each year we keep passing on taking a QB that could turn into that difference maker is a year someone else does and leapfrogs us. You have to gamble on getting a great QB until you find one. In fact, the Dolphins are in a good situation because they can evaluate the guy behind Tannehill and not have to start him immediately. But not even taking the chance on the next great QB? I cannot and will not agree with that strategy.
And how long have we been saying this? Long enough for the Chiefs, Bears, Texans, Rams, and Browns to have found legit QBs. Long enough that the Eagles and Vikings found QBs, as well. Odds are that at least one other team will end up in good position given the Jets, Bills and Cardinals all invested in QBs, too. Again, RT is a solid guy, but it's all relative. There are other teams out there that will be looking (Bucs, Broncos) and teams that will need answers beyond their current veteran (Saints, Chargers, Giants, Steelers), but Miami is one of the only teams with a guy who's in his prime and who isn't considered a lock. The fact is, a whole heck of a lot of QBs can be effective if they have a running game and a dominant O-line. The point is, you won't always have those things. You need to be able to jump-start an offense. That's the whole point of investing 1st round picks in the position.
I think the only way we're going there is if Ross loses faith in Gase. I mean.. if Gase does really well this year (we ARE 3-1) then fine roll with things. The only thing more important than the QB is the HC (and GM), so if we found the right coach that solves the most important problem and I'll suffer through some short term pain for the HC to get things right. But he HAS to get us to the playoffs this year or, as I've repeatedly said, I won't support him as HC. And btw.. at 3-1 the historical odds of making the playoffs is 63% so he's still on track. If Gase flops, then I think we get a new QB but we'll also have to search for a new HC. Worst option is 8-8 or so, Ross keeps Gase around, and we end up having more mediocre years. I mean Philbin got us to 8-8 so that's not impressive. So I guess I'm hoping that we either succeed really well or totally flop. Worst option is right on the edge and not quite knowing how far you can go with the guy (Gase).. kinda like Tannehill lol.
This makes me mad. In week three the Eastern part of New England saw the Dolphins-Oakland Game which, as we know - was amazingly exciting. The Western part of that region go to see the Bills clobber the Vikings and even in the 4th quarter with 5 minutes left they still did not switch over. I was angry by this but thought that they probably can't switch over no matter how lopsided a game is - well, unless it is against the Dolphins, then go ahead and switch it!
i really don't want to be negative with so many games left and it was just 1 game and there is certainly opportunity to win games, we have solid opponents for the next 5 weeks until we get to the jets so there is time to show what hes made of. But what RT and gase relationship reminds me of is someone who fills the stat sheets so they can say look hes succeeding to keep his job, hence all the check downs with open guys down field, and all the short passes on 3rd and long in the stat sheet they look great his rating looks great, then he does what he did yesterday against good teams. IMO he was never nor will ever be a franchise guy no matter how many games you mask with the stat sheet fillers, to me only thing that matters is winning games against quality opponents and winning playoffs games which he has failed to do. But like i said there is time and he def has the opportunity to beat quality teams these next 5 weeks, if he doesn't then i guess we can talk about whats real and what not, for now we are still in the division lead and ill roll with that.
The only long tenured QB that I know of that can play with a poor o-line, running game, and/or defense, is Rodgers. Sure, there are the flash in the pan types, and some of these rookies lighting it up may be the real deal, but definitively claiming that any of the QB's from the teams you mentioned are the real deal is speculation. And finding another Rodgers will be nearly impossible. IMO, this team needs a better o-line (we've been saying this for 2 decades it seems), and better play calling. Jump starting an offense of course includes the QB, but it involves 10 other people....12 if you include the HC and OC. And no one, except Rodgers, seems to be able to do that on his own. cbrad has the right idea. This falls to Gase. The offensive skill players, that includes RT, are good enough to start on most teams in this league. The o-line needs better coaching or personnel. I'm not an o-line expert so I don't know which, but something needs to happen. I truly believe that if this team could run the damn ball they'd be 4-0 right now. RT can and does make all the throws. Sure he misses some. All QB's do. And numbers prove that he's pretty damn good. If this team fails to win 10 games this season, with this talent, I won't think Gase is the right man for the job anymore.
What is more predictable is the 3000 posts about oh I knew this was coming. Who cares if ya did. Most people did it was optimism it would seem the people harping on the loss are the ones had their hopes up so they are passive aggressive towards the optimistic people? Either way its a new week nothing to be had from booing each other. Hell we didn't play in the game lol!
Everything thats wrong with the Dolphins is from the ownership to the Front office management. But I agree with your post pretty much whole-heartedly..
It happens in my neck of the woods here in TN with Titans. But that really they will switch to a game that is more competitive and more with many viewers. Here's hoping for a better outcome in Cincy there.
And those are the FACTS jack!!! ----------------------------------------- The righteous themselves will posess the earth and they will reside forever upon it. Psalm 37:29