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We Saw the Signs when we signed Cam

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by definsewins, Dec 29, 2007.

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  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Agree with you about Cam, in a different area code concerning JJ.

    He went from 1-15 to 2 Sb victories and built a team that even addled brained Switzer could win a SB with, he led us to the playoffs twice, failed, but we still were invited to the dance, and his Talent evaluation was top notch.

    Cam on the other hand is the "Mad Tinkerer" willing to try anything with no concern about the results, and he is unwilling to utilize guys like Ginn and LBook to their full potential.

    Cam doesn't run a tight ship, I do not like that in a HC, we need Leonidious, not Jerry Garcia....
     
  2. His'nBeatYour'n

    His'nBeatYour'n Glass Ceiling Repairman

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    The Dolphins were a better team the year that Wannstedt took over JJ's players. Winning games with first year starter Fiedler and Lamar Smith that JJ couldn't with Dan Marino and an ever rotating backfield. Wannstedt is the only Dolphins coach since Shula to win the AFC east.

    I know my JJ opinion is an unpopular one. But the guy had a ton of picks in Dallas that allowed him to whiff on many players. He was a great draft value guy, creating the draft value chart that is ever present in the NFL nowadays, trading picks, moving around. And he knew was pretty darn good at finding gems on defense. Yet, he never found a second receiver for Irvin or a decent backup to Smith in Dallas. In Miami, Y. Green, A. Jabbar, S. Pritchett, J. McPhail, C. Collins, JJ Johnson, and a ton of lackluster FA pickups proved him to be inept at evaluating offensive talent.

    I give him credit for building a talented team that even Switzer could win with. But that just proves the point that as a GM (with the gift of the Herschel Walker bonanza) he built a team that even HE could win with. I may hold on to it stubbornly, but I just don't accept that great coaches ever go 1-15 unless they want to. The only way I could accept that JJ is a great 1-15 coach is that he used that poor season to break down his veterans. A very common criticism of JJ was that he was a great college coach who was successful in the NFL only because he built a young team in Dallas. His degree in psychology from Arkansas wasn't so great once he had to deal with grown men. Which is why he retired from Dallas (they were getting older), and why he butted heads with Marino and couldn't motivate the Dolphins without an influx of Herschel Walker trade young talent. He gutted the Dolphins of veteran talent by jettisoning Troy Vincent, Bryan Cox, Marco Coleman, Irving Fryar, Keith Byars, Keith Sims, and Terry Kirby in his first year. Only Vincent and Cox were ever sufficiently replaced by Madison and Thomas.

    The Dolphins, a franchise that has the Shula legacy to look back on, should never accept a head coach who can't get more out of the talent they are given. Football isn't played on paper.
     
  3. TampaFinsFan01

    TampaFinsFan01 New Member

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    ROFL....and when I was saying I didn't want him when he was hired everyone else was telling me how great he was/is.

    I haven't been a regular on the boards this year, but is the general consensus among the Fans here that CC has to be fired? If so, ROFLMAO! Classic.
     
  4. cnc66

    cnc66 wiley veteran, bad spelur Luxury Box

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    His'n and Padre...you guys rock.. great posting



    His'n... good to see ya bro.
     
  5. dolfandenny

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    What are the odds in getting 3 bad choices in a row. I was expecting good things from Cam and here we are worse than ever. [sigh] :sad:
     
  6. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero

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    I was definately one of those saying how great he was...Wow :confused2:
     
  7. MIA4EVER-lives

    MIA4EVER-lives New Member

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    The one thing (satan,CAM,wan) all had in common
    They all never had a decent QB and all try to lives
    off of JJ Defense .Only CAm /RANDY cames in to
    rebuild but not a job well done
     
  8. Finominal

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    It is a job well begun, not done. New coaches always come into a bad team. Usually a bad team that is going to get worse before it gets better. Nobody wants to say rebuilding year. Cam had the guts and smarts to do it. He has made some very good moves to get the Dolphins in a prime spot to rebuild. His first draft was pretty good. I think he is on the right path, and I think the more Parcels gets into the details, he will agree.
     
  9. DeDolfan

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    :D :D if my surname wuz Malcom, I'd of shat muh drawers long ago. But anuther way of puttin' it, if muh name wuz malcom, my parents would be the last on muh Xmas list !! :D :D
     

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