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Hot Topic of the Day - Russell WIlson

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Apr 2, 2019.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    your not understanding my angle..

    Team success and stats is based on team parts, A Qb can perform his individual responsibilities at an elite level and be on a team that doesn’t achieve hi level success..
     
  2. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    We missed our golden opportunity to draft him, the Seahawks deserve him..

    What a bad azz.. in bed with Sierra just signed the biggest deal ever..

    Much respect and a big middle finger to his detractors.
     
  3. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Just have to be a good Gm to find the parts to surround him, a good confident one will get it done..
     
  4. Carmen Cygni

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    And with that one single contract, Seattle's future prevalence to compete for championships was put to rest.

    One would think that after watching the New England's absolute dominance over the past few decades with the way they build their roster, and how their HOF QB keeps his pay in check for the betterment of the entire team, that other franchises would get a clue. Apparently not.
     
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  5. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    In the NBA too. Apparently the bottom line isn't winning, it's getting paid.

    And fair enough I suppose. Only one team wins each year. So much depends on others. The one thing you can control, to some extent, is how much you get paid for just playing.
     
  6. Fin D

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    And success is practiced. Young and Wilson always had an elite ceiling, but those ceilings couldn't;t have been reached without a complimentary supporting cast and a coaching staff that gamelans around their strengths.

    Young didn't have that in Tampa, he did in SanFran.

    Wilson in Year 1 and 2 at Seattle is not the same Wilson since, and the coaches called a different offense then than they do now. Because he was allowed to grow, get his bearings, learn the pro game and speed.

    You always take offense to this because you think the angle is the same as saying Wilson would be crap or mediocre elsewhere. Which I'm not. I am saying that Wilson had the elite ceiling, but like all elite QBs, you still need the cast and coaching staff to reach that elite ceiling.

    Dan Marino would have sucked if drafted by the 49ers, for example. Tom Brady would be out of the league if drafted by us.
     
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  7. cbrad

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    I don't think this is true at all. Marino on the 49ers would have won a bunch of SB's. Walsh would have made adjustments.
     
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  8. Fin D

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    You're probably right that Walsh would have adapted. But I maintain that Marino would have sucked if he was forced into a West Coast offensive system.
     
  9. cbrad

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    Depends on how much he'll count against the cap though. An average of $35 mil per year is way too high I agree, but is that what he's actually going to make? We'll have to see how much he actually counts against the cap.

    I think a decent estimate of the maximum amount a QB should count against the cap is ~13% if you go by SB winning QB's since 1994 as you can see in the graph below (1994 Steve Young counted 13.1% against the cap). The cap in 2019 is 188.2 mil and 13% of that is $24.65 mil. So I agree that an average of $35 mil is way too high, but again.. what are the contract details?

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  10. Fin-O

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    Dan Marino with Bill Walsh!?

    Yea, that duo would’ve never sucked. The opposite actually.
     
  11. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That’s too much grey, and he demonstrated too much ability both mentally and physically to just kind of assume that would happen to him..

    The more likelihood is if he went to a bad team, bad coaches, we the fans would of been able to differentiate him from the coaches/team
     
  12. Patster1969

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    Dan with a defence, a running game, Walsh's mind & Jerry Rice to throw to - throw in a fat guy & you have Christmas!
     
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