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At least we are not the Cardinals

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by my 2 cents, Apr 26, 2019.

  1. my 2 cents

    my 2 cents Well-Known Member

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    The Cardinals have now spent #1, #10, #79 and #152 on two Qb's one of which is about the same size as Mugsy Bouges ..............when the game is played with one football..........................
     
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  2. NickyNapoleon

    NickyNapoleon Active Member

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    You forgot they also hired a college head coach with a losing record
     
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  3. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    To use my favorite term, that franchise is an absolute dumpster fire. How their GM made it out of last year is just baffling. I do actually give them credit for breaking the mold with the Murray and Kingsbury combo. It's risky as ****, but it's also got a pretty crazy high ceiling. For as garbage as they are, it's probably worth going off the wall crazy in an attempt to be special.

    The issue for me is why they kept their drunk *** driver of a garbage GM and why they didn't deal Rosen before the draft. He's not going to gain value from this point. Nobody is looking at him as an injury savior either, that line of reasoning doesn't make sense. They let several of their possible bargaining points draft people instead. Bush league ****. I wouldn't give up more than a 5th at this point, absolutely 0 leverage for the Cards.
     
  4. NickyNapoleon

    NickyNapoleon Active Member

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    The race for Rosen is probably Miami and the Chargers... I would offer a 4th, I think they would take it
     
  5. Wilkimania

    Wilkimania Well-Known Member

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    I'll offer them a 2020 7th round pick right now. I don't really want him but at least it would keep everyone quiet for a few minutes.
     
  6. NickyNapoleon

    NickyNapoleon Active Member

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    Actually I take Rosen because the Cards will eat about $8M+ of his contract so even if he is a career backup he costs you about $6M over 3 years. Cheap backup in case he doesnt work out
     
  7. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    They also paid $16 million to Bradford and $5 million to Glennon last year. lol

    However, Bogues is 5'3" and 130 pounds, which is so far out of the realm of any basketball player it's ridiculous, and he STILL dominated his sport and played 15 seasons.

    I think a 5'10"+, 210 pound, QB, which isn't that much smaller than QB's currently playing, will have no problems.

    Murray will play MUCH better than Rosen did and do it on the same team that Rosen looked like a pile of trash.
     
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  8. NickyNapoleon

    NickyNapoleon Active Member

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    Murray is the shortest QB taken in round one in the modern era. Earl Boykins and Spudd Webb were 5'5 and 5'6 respectively...
     
  9. tirty8

    tirty8 Well-Known Member

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    This is a point that cannot be stressed enough. There is virtually zero risk (except the actual draft pick), and a ton of upside. I just cannot believe how much people have soured on this guy. This is a colossal overreaction. It just makes sooo much sense on so many levels.
     
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  10. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    People soured because he was terrible. Sometimes we overlook the obvious.
     
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  11. Fireland

    Fireland Well-Known Member

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    But Arizona was a dumpster fire right?
     
  12. NickyNapoleon

    NickyNapoleon Active Member

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    With turnstiles for an OL
     
  13. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    So are we this year.
     
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  14. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    I almost wonder if there is someone we are waiting for in round 2 or 3, and if that guy isnt there the trade happens.
     
  15. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Good lord I hope not. I wouldn't mind a low rounder on that guy from Buffalo, but if pass on Haskins to take a Grier or Rypien? F that, Henne 2.0.
     
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  16. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Woa....Just hold up....Muggsy Bogues did not "dominate" the sport of basketball at any point in his career. He did average 10 pts and 10 assists during the 93-94 season which was his best overall statistically. That isn't necessarily dominating. Michael Jordan dominated his sport, Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon...They all dominated the sport of basketball during that time. Bogues never even made an all star team during his career.
     
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  17. NickyNapoleon

    NickyNapoleon Active Member

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    So I am a numbers guy, I wanted some perspective so I looked up the rookie stats of Peyton Manning. I then used Rosens averages to see what his stats would have looked like if he threw the ball as many times as Manning did in his rookie campaign. Now Im not saying Rosen is the next Manning, just pointing out that having a bad rookie year on a bad team is not necessarily a guarantee on future successes.

    So Manning
    326/575 56.7% 3739 yards 26TDs and 28 INTs

    Rosen actual
    217/393 55.2% 2278 yards 11 TDs 14 INTs

    Equalized
    317/575 55.2% 3335 yards 16 TDs 20 INTs

    Again, I dont think Rosen is Manning or could even hold Mannings jock. Just that its not necessarily as bad as it looks.
     
  18. NickyNapoleon

    NickyNapoleon Active Member

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    Also Drew Brees in his 3rd season
    205/356 2108 yards 11TDs 15INTs
     
  19. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    I dont necessarily think it even has to be a QB. I dont think they are in a rush to grab someone, it could just be a player they have highly targeted at that spot.
     
  20. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Except they are the Cards. Looks like they're sending a 2nd round draft pick for Rosen.
     
  21. NickyNapoleon

    NickyNapoleon Active Member

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    Who?
     
  22. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    Some media is reporting us, for our 2nd.
     
  23. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    lol...Yeah, when I wrote dominant I actually deleted it, but then decided WTH...

    Still though, Murray's size won't affect his play. And I think he's probably the best QB prospect to come out since Luck...
     
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  24. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    No doubt. His pocket instincts can't be coached.
     
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  25. my 2 cents

    my 2 cents Well-Known Member

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    I personally think he is a bust or gets injured.
     
  26. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Point taken, I like Murray too. His size doesn't bother me at all. He's box office in my opinion.
     
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  27. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Really chaps my hide that we never even got a chance at either Mayfield or Murray.
     
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  28. NickyNapoleon

    NickyNapoleon Active Member

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    Im ok with not getting a shot at Murray, would have taken Mayfield instantly.
     
  29. Pauly

    Pauly Season Ticket Holder

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    Problem with that is that the NFL average passer rating has increased dramatically in between those two seasons. You’re comparing apples and oranges. Adjusting for era is more important than adjusting for volume.
     
  30. djphinfan

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    I think his skillset and build tells me the opposite.
     

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