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Rosen Benched - Fitz to Start vs. Bills

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Oct 16, 2019.

  1. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    Neither does anyone in Miami.
     
  2. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Jim Caldwell was the smartest guy here.
     
  3. tirty8

    tirty8 Well-Known Member

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    I feel like 99% of coaches are too slow to yank a QB, but with Flores, I think he is the rare exception in which he yanks too quickly. Players are gonna have a bad game. Even the greats do, but you need to give them a chance to rebound. Prior to the Redskins game, I thought Rosen looked really good. I will be the first one to tell you, he looked bad vs. Washington, but I definitely felt like he was trending in the right direction. Let the kid get a rhythm and try and bounce back.
     
  4. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    There's been talk about maintaining Rosen's value. If he continues to play, and play badly, he'll have no value by the end of the year. Pulling him now preserves some value.
     
  5. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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  6. KeyFin

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    I re-watched all of Rosen's throws a few times and he did toss several dangerous passes...he easily could have had 4 or 5 picks last week. At the same time though, Washington was getting tons of pressure and forcing him into bad situations- most plays should have been a throw-away since nobody was clearly open for the vast majority of the afternoon. Rosen's bad play was basically on everyone from the line to receivers to coaching...it was a team effort to play that badly.

    Does Rosen deserve to be benched? No, but it is the smartest move at this point if every down is going to be a blitz while receivers can't get separation. Here's the thing though- Washington inexplicably didn't try to pressure Fitzpatrick and that will change this week versus the Bills...meaning Fitz won't look as good as he did versus Washington. Rosen will definitely get another chance to start in the weeks ahead, but it ultimately comes down to the other 10 people on the field doing their job as well. We're just not running a very QB friendly offense at this time with our patchwork roster.
     
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  7. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Exactly. But people will have you believe that the surrounding offense shouldn't impact Rosen, and he should be throwing TDs and threading the needle to receivers who have no separation, and shouldn't be getting sacked or throwing picks. If we just had X Elite QB, it wouldn't matter the oline or the receivers. LMFAO
     
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  8. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Who would have you believe that?
    A bad QB on a bad team makes it unwatchable. A very good or above average QB on a bad team will still show signs of being good. Rosen got manhandled on multiple plays last week and his mechanics and play went downhill quickly. Funny how Fitzpatrick was inserted and almost immediately the offense looked somewhat competent.

    For example, Marino had a 6-10 season and a few other seasons where the team was at .500 or slightly below it. Put Rosen on those same teams and they'd have been lucky to win 2 games.
     
  9. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I mean, comparing to Rosen to Marino is pointless on several levels. Marino is arguably the best pure passer. Ever. Rosen is not. Rosen almost definitely isn't elite. However, that's my point. Rosen may not be elite, but odds are, whoever we pick won't be either. So then what?
     
  10. cbrad

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    At this point an "unknown" like Tua should be rated far more highly than a "partially known" like Rosen who has shown absolutely no indication of being any better than a backup QB after 16 starts in the NFL.
     
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  11. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I'm not saying he isn't. I'm saying if you want an elite QB, and anyone who isn't elite you simply harp on their deficiencies constantly, then chances are you'll still be doing that after we draft Tua.

    Unless Tua is an elite QB and we hit the 1 out of 7 with our first crack at it.

    Although to be fair, Rosen has gotten screwed, stat wise, by our receivers this season...I think we feel a little differently about Rosen if he had a positive td-int ratio throughout this horrific offensive showing...and he probably would have that.
     
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