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Do we need to pick a Qb with our first pick?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dolfan40, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree with not being sloppy. You should have good footwork, no hitch and so forth.

    Basically I'm just saying if a guy has all the tools and right attitude it wont be the reason I pass on him. Something that can be fixed with work is better than things that can never be improved.

    Of course if you offer me Joe Burrow with a "perfect" motion vs imperfect I'd choose the perfect one. I'm just saying there are a lot of important things to consider aside from that.

    For instance maybe your delivery is 0.2 seconds slower but you read the defense as the play developes 0.3 seconds faster than an average QB. You're still at a net gain, and I can probably get the motion quicker/better more easily than the reading a D.

    To put it another way, if Burrow is showing elite skills in other areas but I feel his delivery is beyond the margin for acceptable, I'd probably be thinking he will only be that much better once it's been tweaked into the acceptable range. Where as a guy with perfect mechanics who lacks the other tools will probably not make it as more than a backup.

    I keep editing on to this sorry!

    I also want to add before anyone says I'm contradicting myself, I believe there are different levels of "bad" and a range that isnt perfect but is acceptable. I dont believe it's a contradiction to treat these two areas separately. If you are extremely bad it will of course be harder to get to "good" and would impact the evaluation. If you're borderline good already it will be easier. If youre already in the imperfect but acceptable range it's not something I'd try and touch too hard for fear of potentially damaging the QB ability to consistently deliver the ball with the same motion.

    I also know I've said it's easier to teach than other things which may also sound contradictory to what I just said. Being easiest doesnt mean fool proof or guaranteed.
     
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  2. Hoops

    Hoops Well-Known Member

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    Burrows exceptional post snap and has a real feel for pressure which is a big deal and probably will offset the arm limitations at times assuming he doesn’t gain more arm strength in the pros. With him being overaged it’s hard to bet on much meat on the bone there.

    again though in terms of dc play Id have to think the plan would be to take away the bread and butter and force him arm from the pocket to beat me outside the #s.

    I’ve seen this kind of arm limitation before in Chad Pennington however penny was good pre to post snap and and exceptional with the timing and ball placement out of hand.

    that’s how he survived as long as he did with a noodle arm.

    basically poor mans Peyton Manning type who was the gold standard for processing information.
     
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  3. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    I dont necessarily think he "cant" throw outside the hashes. The college game comes down to get players in open space, it's much easier to do that without using the sideline as any additional defender.

    That said, I'm not sure if he can either. It's something we will see when he works out and teams run him through all the routes. That way we know he is trying to put zip on the ball each throw and can measure accurately.

    I dont think measuring his in game outside route arm strength with necessarily tell much because it isnt a given that he us trying g to zip each throw in.
     
  4. Hoops

    Hoops Well-Known Member

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    Yeah whoever is running that pro day workout needs to test that arm for limitation with concepts outside the #s or breaking outside the numbers etc.

    one thing I will say is it does help that he’s doing it against sec level speed at the college level. Closest thing to pro you can find comp wise.
     

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