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Chase Young Returning for His Senior Year

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by KeyFin, Dec 16, 2019.

  1. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Not sure if others saw this but since it directly affects the Dolphins, it felt relevant. Young has said in multiple interviews this weekend that he's not entering the draft this season.
     
  2. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Well, I believe that he was more cryptic, saying that was his plan at this moment. Guys who are in the college playoffs don't typically say that they're leaving school early until their year is over. He very well could just be deflecting questions about himself until January.
     
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  3. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    That is possible, but his name was dropped in two or three different posts today so I was guessing others haven't heard it. I would think if he wanted to deflect he'd say that he hadn't decided yet.
     
  4. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    Once the college playoffs are done, I think we get a final answer from Young. If the Bengals don't have the #1 pick, he has a very good chance of going #1 in the draft. He might be #1 even if Miami had the first pick (with the Phins going for a Young/Tua combo with the first two first rounders).

    It would be a HUGE gamble on his future if he went back and got injured. He'd be a late first at worst with an ACL injury, but still quite a drop from being #1.
     
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  5. M1NDCRlME

    M1NDCRlME Fear The Spear

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    I agree. However, I prefer a Young/Hurts combo over a Young/Tua combo.
     
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  6. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    If Ohio State wins the championship, he’ll turn pro. If not, maybe there’s a reason to stay in school.
     
  7. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    I know we’re all diehard Dolphins fans here but potentially hurting his future if he returns for his senior year? You mean getting that Bachelors Degree is really going to jeopardize his future?

    I always thought the PURPOSE of college was getting an education to give yourself a better future.
     
  8. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    That is not the purpose to being a top college athlete.

    It is stupid for him to not come out to the NFL
     
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  9. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    Risking more money than most of us will make in a lifetime by staying in school? Yeah, I consider that a bad decision. Even if he fails in the NFL and never gets a second contract, he'll be set for life with some basic money management. Plus he can GO BACK to school and finish his degree after the NFL.
     
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  10. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Wow, so they aren’t people after all...just bred stock to feed the NFL machine.

    How sad
     
  11. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    Look, I do agree it's a silly move, but I'm not going to judge the man for following what he wants in the face of everyone saying how dumb it is.

    Also though as others have said, I'd wait until after the season is truly over to take him 100% seriously.
     
  12. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    What?

    He is getting paid millions for his services. Going back to school puts that in jeopardy.

    If NASA offered him millions of dollars to work for them now, I would think he was stupid for turning down that offer.
     
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  13. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Hes entering the draft, 100000% guaranteed.
     
  14. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    Most likely.

    Nick Saban wasnt going to Alabama after all.
     
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  15. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Who are you...or me or anyone else to judge what a person wants to do with HIS life? It’s a free country.

    You want to forego your senior year of college to declare for the NFL draft? It’s YOUR life. Best of luck.

    You want to return to school for your senior year? It’s YOUR life. Best of luck.

    Those who feel the way you’re expressing are saying in no uncertain terms, “you don’t know what you’re doing. I know what’s best for you. You should do this, that or the other and if you don’t you’re stupid”

    Jesus, sounds just like the first 5 minutes of CNN Tonight
     
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  16. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Everyone judges everyone. That is a straw man argument.
    Even if I believe his decision is stupid, I wish him the best of luck.

    It is a free country so I can say on a bulletin board that I think his decision is stupid and the government will not arrest me.
     
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  17. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Wait so, he's free to do what he wants. (Which no one argued)
    You're free to be ok with that. (Which no one argued)
    But others are not free to disagree with his choice?

    Jesus, sounds like an entire episode of Fox & Friends.
     
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  18. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    One thing that nobody mentioned- he wouldn't be returning just for the education. He'd also be returning to support his team and their program, which speaks volumes of the type of person he is. Him making this decision makes him even more desirable in my mind...whether it changes in the coming months or not.
     
  19. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    In the case of NASA his knee getting injured wouldn't change their offer.

    I think it's a foolish move when you are likely the overall #1 pick. Not sure why he would forgo the draft. As for completing his senior year there are plenty of professional athletes that can continue their education after they declare for the draft. Nothing would prevent him from completing his degree.
     
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  20. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    And if I'm his teammate or HC I'd be the bigger person and would tell him to declare.
     
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  21. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    The idea that he needs to stay in school to get an education is folly. He has the ability to complete his education at any time. He will essentially need 2, or maybe even just 1 semester of classes. His salary will make paying for that a laugh, especially when compared to the scholarship.

    An education is valuable, sure. So is making literal millions of dollars while you are in the prime of being able to do so without really jeopardizing the ability to complete said education.
     
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  22. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    I would suspect the reason he would want to return is more to challenge for and win the national championship and have another year with his teammates more than any notion of education or improvement. He wouldn't be the first to prioritize that kind of thing, but it would still be a massive (and imo foolish) risk. He would almost certainly cost himself millions even if he doesn't get hurt. He will likely need to go up against Lawrence and Fields, and risks being surpassed by other talents. This year he is essentially a guarantee to go top 2.
     
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  23. Unlucky 13

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    Somehow, this has almost turned into a political argument....:huh:

    Lets not do that.
     
  24. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Unless he knows a huge flaw that he needs to fix that will come out during the offseason, his stock is highest this year.
     
  25. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I completely agree- which makes his gesture noble. Let's face it- 99% of the kids in his position would take the money. I would have in a heartbeat at his age. His loyalty is admirable and I wish him all the best...regardless if it's the wrong decision or not.
     
  26. cbrad

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    I looked this up but Young clarified the comments he made to TMZ and said he has no "plan" for 2020 yet. He said about the interview: "That moment was just a real spontaneous moment, caught me off-guard. I’m not even really worried anything in the future.."

    So I think this is all talk about nothing. The guy is almost certainly entering the draft.
     
  27. Striking

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    That would be unfortunate.
     
  28. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    I'm willing to bet that he completely changes his mind within the next month. In my opinon, I think it's very likely that he will be in the 2020 draft. If he does in fact decide to go back to school, that is certainly his choice to make. Tim Duncan finished out his senior year at Wake Forest back in the 90s and went on to play almost 20 years in the NBA. Some people have different priorities in life.
    All in all I hope he is available in this draft when our pick comes up. I would definitely love for us to draft him if the opportunity presents itself. I think he's a can't miss edge defender and an all pro at the next level for many many years.
     
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  29. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I caught two TV interviews...one Saturday and one Sunday. In the first, he said that his plans were to return to college and play his senior season. And I completely agree that he could have been stuck in the moment with a hard question and two college games to still play...it's completely possible he enters the NFL Draft.

    But what else are we really talking about this time of year? LOL, the Tennessee Titans? It felt relevant anyway.
     
  30. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

    Getting his bachelor's will not equate to the guaranteed money he'll get from being drafted. College is mostly a waste of time anyways. Get paid now, don't risk an injury, and complete college after you're drafted. Or don't complete...you already got paid. Most people go to college to gain access to better paying jobs. There's no need if you're already paid.
     
  31. Vertical Limit

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    What a long thread of pointless discussion. He is entering the draft. That is a billion times guaranteed.
     
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  32. Fin-O

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    "I'm just focused on beating Clemson"

    Not difficult to read between those lines. He will declare and be the first defensive player selected. And I would LOVE for it to be the Miami Dolphins.
     
  33. djphinfan

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    He must have some rich boosters hooking him up :)
     
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  34. cbrad

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    They're calling the Giants vs. Redskins game the "Chase Young bowl". Go to the two teams' respective message boards and it's the same discussion we've had about the value of tanking so they can get Young. What makes it really interesting is that they're in the same division lol. Fans saying it's not just about getting a great player, they also don't want that player terrorizing their QB for the next decade!

    So the draft is shaping up to be Cinci taking Burrows and either Giants or Redskins taking Young. It doesn't look like the Giants or the Redskins will pick a QB (reading their boards), so that means our only competition for Tua would potentially be the Lions. Lions play Denver and GB, and given their recent form they're likely to lose both, so that's something to watch out for. They lose out and we beat Cinci and they draft ahead of us, which means we probably have to go to plan B (as in a plan without Burrows or Tua).

    btw there's an outside chance the Dolphins end up with the #1 pick: we lose out, Cinci beats us and the Browns, Giants beat the Redskins, and for SoS Carolina beats Indy. Of course, if neither the Giants nor Redskins are after a QB, we'd only need the #2 pick and that only requires us losing out and Cinci winning out. Who knows.. then we could get Burrows!
     
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  35. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Im all for losing the next two games... getting Chase Young in Miami is important...

    i dont like rooting against us but the time is now, make sure we get the best possible pick.
     
  36. KeyFin

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    With Boomer already welcoming Burrows to the team and giving him his helmet, I think it's a foregone conclusion that the Bengals won't win out. Heck, they might play offensive linemen at safety next week since they seem to be way more committed to the tank than we are.

    The stars could align though- the Browns are self-destructing with Landry screaming at the coach on the sidelines. ODB wants OUT too. Maybe, just maybe, the Bengals face two inferior teams and pull off two upsets.
     
  37. AGuyNamedAlex

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    Have any of us considered the idea that Tua might still be the pick at #1?

    I know it sounds insane, but if you have a higher grade on him than Burrow and you believe in his medicals....you probably dont try and get too cute.

    I'm not sure Boomer has any inside info....if he does then obviously it would be Burrow.

    We all assume Tua is going to fall but some people here still want him with our first pick if he seems to be making medical progress.

    Edit after the fact:

    In hindsight, what if Peyton was injured before the draft? Would taking Ryan Leaf #1 have been a better move because he was healthy? Not comparing Burrow to Leaf at all, I love Burrow, just saying.
     
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  38. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    The Lions won't take a QB unless they axe their GM and coach, and for the record, it's widely assumed locally that they are returning despite fan outcry. If they are back, it will be a must-win year and they will take the person that helps the most immediately. Probably a DB or DE. Okudah, Simmons, Epenesa, Gross-Matos are all possibles. They will rely on Stafford coming back healthy and maybe upgrade the backup slot. If they are surprise fired though, a QB definitely becomes possible.

    *edit* The Lions' ownership has officially announced that GM Bob Quinn and HC Matt Patricia will be retained for 2020. This likely takes them out of the running for a QB unless the prognosis for Stafford is just terrible. It's possible they try and swing a home run on offense with Jeudy or Lamb, but I would suspect a defensive player to be the pick.
     
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  39. Deus ex dolphin

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    What if Burrow wants no part of an blatant tank? While Miami was accused of that, and there was roster cutting with zero regard to wins, the team has accomplished more with less this season. Maybe Burrow refuses to go to the Bengals and forces a trade? Dalton, Young, and an extra second rounder would not be the worst situation to deal with.

    If it was the same hip injury, Peyton may never have played football in the NFL. That's how serious the Tua situation is. The Chargers ignored warning signs about Leaf and his mental attitude as they really wanted a QB. Miami needs to be willing to wait till the late first or second round, maybe even 2021 to grab a QB if the risk/reward isn't very good.
     
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