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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by my 2 cents, Apr 3, 2020.

  1. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    I honestly think there are only 4 QB I'd go after in any round this year, being my top 4.

    I dont think Burrow is a better day one starter than Tua (if healthy) or Herbert honestly. All three could use bench time if possible.

    Like I said, Herbert is the only one with skills that translate well to the NFL IMO. Of course he has sone flaws, but as you said they are the easiest to fix.

    For the sake of argument though, let's say Burrow is a better day 1 starter....it wouldnt change my rankings, because after that year on the bench in my eyes Herbert would end up the better player.

    Also, though it has floated around here, Tannehill isnt a good comparison IMO.
     
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  2. Etrius24

    Etrius24 Well-Known Member

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    I agree that it is not a great comparison Herbert to Tannehill.... I have stated this previously. Herbert is bigger and stronger... Tannehill was more athletic.

    I read one scouting report on Herbert that said he was methodical in his work his progressions... Workmanlike instead of a Maestro.

    Because I do not know... I wonder how much he loves football? Is it his everything... As in the only love he has ever known? Will hard work skill and passion turn him into a creative artist at the QB position? It took a while do to bad teams ****ty coaching and injuries... But Tannehill was an artist last year... He was masterful... complete control of the offense... He took over games and showed poise and patience when he was getting pressured and hit... He was unfazeable. (Spelling?)

    If I thought that Herbet was going to grow mentally like Tannehill did... Hell Yeah take him top 5.... Herbert has a great arm and that sizr and strength are fantastic. Will the touch come? Will he get creative? Will be become masterful?
     
  3. my 2 cents

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    Hebert is more instinctive than RT17 by far. RT17 was a great student and fairly well coached QB that was very color by numbers, A,B, C progression guy. Hebert is not as Progression centric (coached) as RT17. If you look at his (RT17's) splits he was pretty much the same guy last year that he has always been with the VERY notable exception that Tennessee kept him out of situations that he is not good at. People want him to be what they espouse and the truth is he is the same guy he has always been which is a slightly better than average streaky QB that can manage a game and will be better with a better cast around him but will never be a guy that carries a team on his back. RT17 is polarizing because we see what we want to see and he falls in a doughnut hole of being what both sides want to see. That and Tennessee can win without him so both sides have points in the debate. He is Rich Gannon and will be better later in his career because he is a smart guy who will go faster through progressions but he will never be an instinctive QB. At the end of the day he was a huge reach at 8 and because of that they hung on to him likely 2-3 years too long.

     
  4. Etrius24

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    I am going to disagree with you slightly. Tannehill was tough in Miami.. He took a beating and never came out of the lineup until he needed a new knee.

    Away from horrible coaching.... ( Remember the Go.... Go-Go nonsense? ) The 2-3 yard passes to Landry that Gase wanted to run over and over and over (That drove us all insane ) Tannehill worked hard took a beating and never complained.

    Getting to Tennessee the Line was about average So he got hit a little less. The coaching was better so the full route tree was opened up and Tannehill was allowed to look down the field... And we saw tremendous growth from him because of it. Leading the league in yards per pass.. Seeing him read defenses and make perfect strikes downfield when teams looked to stopping the run and he had a matchup he liked he exploited it and went for the jugular deep. It was something to see.

    But I am going to talk about something else. Tannehill facing all out pressure with more than one guy coming at him hard... He stood tough and deftly made beautiful touch passes that turned into first downs and huge positive plays because the defense was going after the QB... We never saw those screens and creative dump offs from Tannehill in Miami

    I remember year after year with Philbin and Gase wondering if they even knew what a screen pass was?

    Yes the coaching was better in Tennessee.... Yes Henry is a very good football player.... But tannehill combined his athletic talent, with years of experience, his competitive fire and added in creativity to extend plays and win games. I saw him make plays and do things he never did in Miami.

    In terms of leadership the way he took over the team... The way he made that tackle and absolutely laid a defender out that was trying to run the ball back for a touchdown .... That Titans team would run head first into a brick wall for their QB. He turned their season around... Got them into the playoffs and a couple plays away from the Superbowl. They love him... They believe in him...

    If you told me that Herbert could do that.... I would say he is worth the #1 pick in the draft.

    It is so much more than better instincts... Tannehill combined his intelligence, with experience and then used his competitiveness and creativity to take the offense to another level. I am not saying he is better than Aaron Rodgers... But the creative plays... Extending the plays... Those are things that we see from special QB's like Rodgers or Wilson... and last year in Tennessee we saw them from Tannehill.
     
  5. Surfs Up 99

    Surfs Up 99 Team Flores & Team Tua

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    I did another chart using data from the PFF draft guide. I am not sure why their attempts and completion numbers do not match the actual numbers but thought you would like to know. When they do their review they may pair out things that are irrelevant, but that is just a guess.

    Take with a grain of salt, but when you look at the numbers there are some things that on the surface seem pretty revealing. For example, Tua's TD%, Herbert's lack of TD% on short and intermediate throws, and Hurt's accuracy issues and interceptions. Thoughts?

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  6. my 2 cents

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    Not sure if that is ball in the air stats or YAC or what. Oregon did not have near the weapons that Bamas and LSU had but also did not play the quality of defense so it isa lot of "data" to sort through. I don't have any job on the line and have no credibility with the NFL or likely anyone else but I have been pretty accurate over the years, probably mores than most teams grading guys, but my top 5 is:
    1. Young
    2. Herbert
    3. Beckton
    4. Wills
    5. Jordan Jefferson

    so I don't think it hurts at all that Burrow was throwing too JJ. By no means do I think it will come off that way but that is how I rank them with no noise.

     
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  7. my 2 cents

    my 2 cents Well-Known Member

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    Yes I don't think you can ever take away RT17's toughness. He is a high end individual and a tough team guy so he is hard to hate but he was also overdraft and limited but yes no doubt a tough competitive guy that is worthy of our respect if not our admiration.

     
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  8. Surfs Up 99

    Surfs Up 99 Team Flores & Team Tua

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    Looking at the data, I can understand why people like Tua. Yes, he had a lot of talent around him and had decent time to throw the ball, etc., however, it's not like he didn't have to do anything. He has to execute the offense and his TD% shows he did well with that. Even if it just meant he had to make a well-timed throw to a WR who ran it in for a TD, he did it. Conversely, Hurts in the same offense wasn't able to do near as much, so to me, it's not always a reflection on the talent around the QB. Another thing I found interesting is how close the numbers are for Herbert and Eason. I know you like him. Hmmm.
     
  9. Etrius24

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    Surfs

    Watching the games explains a lot of things on this chart... Such as... Hurts is such an elite offensive weapon running the football... That once inside the red zone he is a threat to run the ball in on any play... considering he had what 20 rushing touchdowns... He proved it... Any time anywhere in the red zone he can take it to the house. So it you looked at the Higher touchdown % for Tua and Burrow than Hurts.... You might think that means Hurts was not as effective... Add in the Rushing touchdowns and recalculate the Touchdown rate!

    Now Hurts still needs to be a past first QB in the NFL.. But look at Lamar Jackson and what he has done with his legs and how he has changed the game. Hurts has that same skill set and athletic ability. Hurts makes people miss he walks into the endzone untouched over and over because he can start and stop... make explosive cuts. And if that does not work he is powerful enough to push his way into the endzone.
     
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  10. Etrius24

    Etrius24 Well-Known Member

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    Two Cents... I am not seeing your responses man.... I see you quoted me... and then it looks like a picture I cannot view?
     
  11. hitman8

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    1. Burrow
    2. Eason
    3. Herbert
    4. Tua
    5. Hurts
    6. Love
    7. Fromm
    8. Montez
    9. Rutter
    10. Morgan
     
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  12. my 2 cents

    my 2 cents Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you blocked me...lol.
     
  13. djphinfan

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    Really good post Imo, some folks think Lamar is an outlier, but Jalen has great running ability and vision, on top of very lethal cutting and stop start explosiveness, like you said..
     
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  14. Surfs Up 99

    Surfs Up 99 Team Flores & Team Tua

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    Anyone up for a friendly wager on which QB we think the Dolphins will take?

    I am going to officially go on record (which means I will put my pick in my signature as soon as I am done with this post) that I think the Dolphins will take Jordan Love somewhere in the 1st round (probably at #5).

    My reasoning is, we had a chance to bring him to Miami and interview him, see what he really knows about X's and O's, and Flores has had a chance to start building a rapport with him. I would also add that last year is not a true reflection on the type of QB he can be. He had to learn another new offense, which had 9 new players. Also, I just learned that 8 of his interceptions really weren't 100% on him. He is smart and plans to be a doctor when he is done with the NFL. He also checks the boxes of a prototypical QB. My final point is we have Fitzpatrick. Flores has stated several times about how much he loves Fitzpatrick, so to me, that means Flores is ok going into next season, and maybe beyond, with Fitz as long as he can continue to play at a decent level. Having Fitzpatrick will buy us time while we groom and develop Love.

    There ya go. I am not saying that Love isn't a project. He is. However, sometimes you have to draft a guy on where you project him to be in a few years, and some have said Love has as high a ceiling as any.

    How about you? Call it.

    Friendly wager terms: If you win, I will address you as, "Oh Great One" at the beginning of any reply I have to one of your posts for a yet to be determined time period. If I win, you will do the same, LOL. Just a thought. We can agree on something else if someone is interested.
     
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  15. KeyFin

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    LOL, I'd bet BUT I really don't have a guess at this point. I could see us moving up to #1 overall. I could see us taking Tua or Herbert. I could see us with Hurts or Love or someone not even on the average fan's radar. I'm secretly hoping for Burrow, but I don't think it happens. I think we SHOULD pass on Tua at #5 as well, so if it's the #5 pick then we SHOULD get Herbert.

    Who do I want? There's no question in my mind....Hurts in the 3rd round. If he busts then it doesn't hurt us at all, but if he turns into a real contender then we landed him for amazing value and we still got 3 great picks in the 1st round. I want Hurts all day long and that's not based on overall talent or anything else...I just think the difference between him and Burrow/Tua/Herbert isn't as big of a gap as people are saying, but he can also do a lot of stuff the others can't. Hurts is my pick.

    But if I absolutely had to bet, then I'd go with our team taking Tua....the player I want the least due to the injury concerns. The front office was so in love with him for so long, I almost think it will be hard to convince them otherwise with the latest injury stuff floating out there. He may have "flunked" Miami's physical and I can still see us taking him...that's just my gut feeling. We'll take Tua at #5 and I'll cross my fingers that it's not a wasted pick.

    We tanked for Tua...so it's going to take a major shake up for him not to be the pick if he's there at 5.
     
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  16. Surfs Up 99

    Surfs Up 99 Team Flores & Team Tua

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    LOL! I could be addressing a lot of ya'll as, " Oh Great One". It's probably the way we will go, but what the heck, why not try and have a little fun leading up the draft. :-)

    Note: I should add that it would be for a specific time period, yet to be determined. I am all for having fun, but...
     
  17. Etrius24

    Etrius24 Well-Known Member

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    No I saw that.... It is just the pictures or files that do not show up at the end.... Just icons with big red X through them... Weird.
     
  18. Etrius24

    Etrius24 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you
     
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  19. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    For whatever reason they didn't load properly...I see the same on a few of his posts. It's a technical glitch without an easy solution.
     
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  20. Kud_II

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    Hey We will see Haha. I'm gonna necro this thread when you're wrong since you say it so confidently though. Lol.

    Herbert > Eason. Just cause you picked players they may look like doesnt mean they will. Ive heard Herbert compared to Peyton Manning on one of them sports shows. At best your comparisons are based on a bias for them not to be franchise QBs. But you don't consider the Great franchise QBs they could also turn out to be like. I'm glad you guys support Eason, but the Dolphins aren't picking him so you should hope you're wrong if you love Miami.


    Also Jalen Hurts looks like the second coming of Mike Vick or closest thing to it. If he turns out like that I dont doubt a player with Vick's play style could win a championship.

    Also you're dogging Russell WIlson here he has won more superbowls than the Dolphins have. Low blow on him. Ref Whistle.

    At this point I would be surprised if The Fins pass on Herbert or Tua. I might not be AS surprised if they traded up for Burrow. Cause our dumb as a box of rocks owner when it comes to football. To me you do the opposite of what Ross wants if you want to win.

    But I will be more surprised if we don't pick a QB in the top 5. There is not reason to not take the top 3 rated QB, in a draft where it looks like several of these QBs could turn out to be talented.

    Its more like multiple of these QBs succeed than fail. I would put my bet on at least 3 of these QBs will start for a decade. Sure there will be plenty of busts but uhhhh

    Go watch Herbert throw some more. Then put Emphasis on his horizontal routes. Those are even more impressive. Herbert can make all of the throws required on the NFL level... to me that says top prospect.
     
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  21. hitman8

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    I actually agree with him. I have Eason as my #2 QB right now above Herbert. Eason has better accuracy and throwing mechanics than Herbert with a quicker release. He also throws under pressure a whole lot better than Herbert. Herbert might have a slight edge in pure arm strength, but eason has plenty of arm strength to make every NFL throw along with better touch on his passes than Herbert as well.

    At this point I think we should either take a top tier OT like Willis or Thomas at #5, or trade down for more picks and pick up Eason with 1c or 2a. Option C would be Hurts with 2b or 3a.

    I am basically ruling out Herbert at this point, too much bust potential, ruling out Tua as well because of the high injury risk and Burrow is out of reach at #1 I don't think he is worth the price it would take to move up to #1.
     
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  22. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    If we exit this draft with Love or Eason as our QB it will be a massive failure on our part. I'd honestly rather just not draft a QB than take either one of them. Especially Love, who couldnt QB his way out of a paper bag.
     
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  23. The Guy

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    No doubt. This is the year to pull out all the stops and get the QB position solved, finally. It ain't the year to take on a project and try to surround him with whatever is perceived to be necessary to get him to play at the requisite level.
     
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    Yep, we all may have different ideas of the talent level of these players, but anyone who doesnt want the best QB possible is insane.

    I guess some people may think Love or Eason have the most talent and it COULD end up being true but what people fail to realize is these few mid first or generally mid round QB's usually succeed because they were first round talents who fell, with few exceptions.

    Russell Wilson was a first round talent who fell due to height.

    Marino fell due to drug use allegations among other things.

    Rodgers fell because people didnt trust an Oregon QB while others clearly saw he should have been pick #1.


    If it was simple as build the team and insert QB later, a lot more teams would have good QB play.

    It's like some people here dont remember the years of Fiedler, Cleo Lemon, Ray Lucas, John Beck so on. Which is what you get 9.9999 out of 10 times you try and make a low talent QB your offensive centerpiece.
     
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    I don't think QBs like Love or Eason would even be considered probable first-round picks if the league didn't revolve so strongly around the QB position. Teams are essentially throwing first-round QB picks against the wall and seeing if they stick.
     
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  26. Surfs Up 99

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    Hmmm...is this some sort of circular reasoning? ;-)
     
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    We have Ryan Fitzpatrick and he's our QB for 2020. If the rest of the team shows up like they did vs. New England in week 17, we have our quarterback for the present. So I'm not sure what you're trying to imply here- yes we need another young QB to be groomed, but he's probably not starting this season anyway and that means he doesn't have to be a high 1st rounder just because we have the pick.

    If we took Tua at #3, for example, then there's a ton of pressure to get him on the field ASAP...and we already know that would be a massive mistake. Same with Burrow at #1 or Herbert at #5. If we like one of them enough then we should absolutely pull the trigger, but drafting a guy at #5 just because he's the best perceived QB on the board at the moment...while passing on a superstar at another position of need...that's insane.

    Teams do a ridiculous amount of research and Miami will have a definitive plan with lots of variables to get the players they want. If a QB falls into place that they really like, then great! But if not, that's absolutely fine as well. We have our QB for 2020 and we paid a steep price for these picks...they absolutely have to be smart about this and land day-1 starters.
     
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    I dont personally see it that way.

    If you have a chance to grab the QB you do it. More than likely we wont have that chance next year.

    At #5 you arent guaranteed a long term starter at any position and you arent fixing every hole on your team.

    Fitz is our QB this year and that's fine...but he is a stop gap.

    I'm not implying you take a QB just to take a QB, I'm implying that all top 3 QB arent any worse prospects than anyone else except MAYBE Chase.

    To not take one, let them sit and learn the offense for next season would be insane to me. There us no guarantee we will be in any sort of draft position to take one and aside from Lawrence the crop looks terrible. We arent getting Lawrence, so putting it off this year effectively puts it off two years.

    Not taking a QB early equates to hoping every other team got it wrong before your pick. To me, that is a weak mindset. Find your guy and take him.
     
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    Again, Fitz is our guy for 2020. There's a chance Rosen is our guy for 2021. If the front office believes that, then they won't take a 1st round QB.

    Simmons is a virtual lock at linebacker. There are 4 elite tackles in this draft, plus lot of players who grade out higher than Tua or Herbert. I'm not saying here not to pick a QB though- I'm saying follow your board and maximize every pick based on the strategy you've been working for months now.
     
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    In the end it's not relevant what any of us think, they will do what they do.

    That said, no QB this year and I'll want them all fired at the first sign of it being a bad choice.

    If we pass on all three (two really potentially) top QB and one succeeds...it will be a failure of a draft to come away with a LB or Tackle IMO.

    You can get a good enough LB/Tackle to succeed with either of our other later picks if the positions are that important. Neither is an impact position above their peers where elite vs serviceable makes much difference.

    If Rosen is the guy for 2021 he should also be the guy for 2020 IMO because it's more important to see what you have than spend another year hoping.

    The idea of waiting 3 full seasons before addressing the most important position when building a team would be negligent to me personally.
     
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    I here you on Love, dont want us picking him at all, but Eason is a different story. He is a very good QB that just needs some minor tweaks and improvements. I would be very happy if we picked him with our 1C or 2A picks.

    I have him #2 in my QB rankings right now.
     
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    Picking a guy right now is reading tea leaves, there is so much misinformation out there and a lot of possible scenarios, I don't think you can justify taking Love at 5 but if he is your guy then he makes some sense because you can have him sit a year or two...but IMHO I think they will go to 3 and take Tua.....hopefully you don't get to the top of the draft often and you have the relative resources to trade up although I would not overpay...again we are all reading tea leaves but I think that Miami is driving up the price on Hebert in order to justify sitting at 5 and taking either of the guys left and smoke screening Love.....so in the end I think they don't take the chance and trade to 3 for Tua....so that would be my "prediction" on how it comes down...Detroit will likely cave because they cannot go down too far to assure Okudah...they do not have fear of Miami or the Chargers taking Okudah but after that there are some possibilities and some potential for some teams to trade out so they likely want to strike a deal with Miami or the Chargers to assure then they get their QB choice and they still get Okudah...likely it would be 5 and 39 for 3 although there is always a chance given the Giants are the only team between picks that 56 gets it done.
     
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    I learned today, from a youtube PFT segment, that teams could talk with any player up to 1 hour, three days a week. Usually, I think when they meet with a guy, it is for a day that sometimes carries over until the morning of the next day. It would be ideal to see a guy throw, etc., but this way may prove beneficial, too. One way would be to go over some X's and O's, and then maybe give the guy homework, and see how he retains the information or prepares for the next session. There may be QB's that find themselves in the discussion that might not otherwise be there because teams have to prioritize their meetings. This also might give teams time to build a rapport with someone. I am not saying we won't draft Tua, but I also wouldn't be surprised if we went another direction, too, based on the relationship we build with them leading up to the draft.

    P.S. I would be okay with only giving up #56 (or perhaps one of our late-round picks) in a trade up for Tua.
     
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  34. Puka-head

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    I watched plenty of Herbert play. And Eason. And Cole McDonald. I'm in PAC-12 country WA. Wasn't bagging on him. Today, right now at the end of their college careers Herbert is the better QB. After 3 years in the NFL, I think Eason will be.

    I was specifically comparing this years QB class to the 2012 QB class, not so much on talent levels but projected draft positions and valuations that were made on the QBs this year and then. I think those comparisons are pretty accurate. Luck, RG3, THIll Cousins, Wilson. Consensus overall #1 picks Luck/Burrow. 1b RG3/Tua. 3 THill/Herbert 4 Cousins /Love and the dark horse Wilson/Hurts. Theres some comps talent wise there also but not making that direct comparison.

    Totally not bagging on Wilson. He was incredibly undervalued in 2012 draft, just like Jalen Hurts will be this year. And because he landed on a good team, Wilson won A=1 Super Bowl. Hurts could end up the same, If a team like Pittsburgh or Indy drafts him maybe more.. Oh, and by the way1 for 2 is not greater than 2 for 5. Thats math. Just sayin.

    Let's examine your statement "I would put my bet on at least 3 of these QBs will start for a decade. Sure there will be plenty of busts but uhhhh". Whats your bet? Pick your three out of those four, I'll cover it. And if you don't really want to bet on that I understand, maybe I'll just "I'm gonna necro this thread when you're wrong since you say it so confidently though. Lol." :up:
     
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  35. Puka-head

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    How about getting the band back together??? Tua at 5 and Hurts at 70?

    Sign me up, even tho I want nothing to do with Tua.

    Just kidding. Tua at 18 would be OK but I'd rather have DT or OT at 5
     
  36. Kud_II

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    Cool. There was bound to be other Dolphins on a certain QBs wagon. Maybe Eason will be 'all that' in a few years. But I generally disagree with the quicker release/accuracy and throwing mechanics anaysis.

    I want Herbert at 5. I'm sorry you're more likely to be disappointed than me. Unless you've heard the Dolphins are looking at Eason somewhere. But we probably will pick Tua if he's there. So none of us will get what we want.

    Also we havent mentioned Herberts attitude. He loves football and wants to be a coach some day, he has said as much. You can tell the kid is in it for the Football above the money. I love his attitude, and I generally believe Herbert is the best QB on the board after Burrow, as does most of the country... Well Tua/Herbert. But I think Tua might drop below Herb, cause of his injury concerns.

    He could be the next Peyton Manning from what I've seen. I don't know what Herbert you studied saying his mechanics/accuracy/release isn't as good. But I whole-heartedly disagree with that sentiment im sorry breh.
     
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  37. hitman8

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    This is a good breakdown of Herbert's many flaws.



    Herbert has many of the same issues we hated about Tannehill. He lacks accuracy and consistency and does not handle pressure well.

    Eason is not perfect yet but he is an overall better QB IMO especially in his ability to throw under pressure, with greater accuracy and touch.
     
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  38. Etrius24

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    Except that Tannehill is now one of the most accurate QB's in all of the NFL... and last season he thrived under pressure... 4th highest QB rating in the history of the NFL... #1 red zone QB in the NFL

    Rising to the occasion and delivering was not the problem for Tannehill last season

    And before you mention the 4th quarter of the Chiefs game to get to the Superbowl... Russell Wilson, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers did not make it to the Superbowl last year.

    The goalposts have moved so extremely that Guy and Moose present arguments that if you do not win the Superbowl then you clearly are not good enough.

    We have to stop letting them swing the pendulum so extremely...It is time to quash crap like this from its onset.
     
  39. AGuyNamedAlex

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    I'll be entirely honest that I havent seen enough of Eason to truly say he will or wont succeed.

    You could be 100% on Eason, though I havent seen many others that high on him in either the analyst or fan circles.

    That said, popular opinion doesnt make you wrong.
     
  40. The Guy

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    What any team should be looking for at QB in my opinion is a guy who can sense pressure early, evade it with suddenness, and make accurate throws downfield on the move. Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray (if he develops). These are your new quarterback prototypes.

    The most skilled players on defense in the NFL are edge rusher and corner. The prototype QB renders those players far less effective than normal. He evades the edge rusher and buys time for the receiver to beat the corner.

    Now, I know those are few and far between, but Burrow and Tua are two of them. The team should be laser focused on getting one of them and not Herbert or anyone else.
     

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