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***The Official Miami Dolphins 2020 3-Day Draft Thread***

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by The G Man, Apr 23, 2020.

  1. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a bandwagon fan, but I dont try to justify or sugar coat stupid decisions either.
     
  2. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Nah he wasn't really a reach. Very talented, late first or early second round dude. On the raw side, but if there is one position we need to trust Flores at, it's CB lol.
     
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  3. Dorfdad

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    disagree. TUA has more upside than any an in this draft. Jackson can play multiple posi to on on the line and is a smart guy, corner isn’t a reach we now have without a doubt the most dominating defensive backfield in the afc if not the league IMHO.

    I just want a RB and will be very happy with this draft.
     
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  4. Sceeto

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    "I wept like an old lady. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to"
    - Apocalypse Now
     
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  5. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    You're just whining and claiming to be an expert. Go have a snickers and try again tomorrow.
     
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  6. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    RB, S, OT, OG/C and a DL. And we have like 23098527098245 more picks, so we should get at least 1-2 of them covered. :chuckle:
     
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  7. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not "claiming" anything, but I dont give opinions unless I do my research. The dolphins **** the bed.
     
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  8. thetylernator

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    No such thing as a reach, guys--only good picks and bad picks. If Igbinoghene ends up being a stud and contributing to a championship-caliber defense for years to come, it won't matter where he was drafted; only that we drafted him.

    Besides, he's just 20 years old, and if Flores has shown us anything, it's that he can coach up corners. I'll happily defer to him on this one.
     
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  9. USArmyFinFan

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    How is it stupid, because you would have picked someone different? Reading on the CB we picked, seems solid with tons of upside. Fastest CB in the draft and can jump. One thing that I do believe is that after last season Flores can get the most out of any player on this team.
     
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  10. JIGGAJOE

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    Surprised they went CB with the last pick, but I think the run on that position in the first is the reason. Tons of RB and S talent left in second round. I wouldn't be surprised to see them move up in the next two rounds. Trust the process!!!
     
  11. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    I personally feel Tua has the least upside of any of the top three QB. The saving grace from me just giving up entirely on him is his floor might be good enough on a rookie contract if the team is good enough.

    I like the Jackson pick.

    Like I said though, we could have had this corner at #39 or possibly #56 and passed up better talent and bigger positions of need.

    I can justify Tua even if I dont like it. This pick IMO has no justification. It's just less frustrating to me because it's not #5 with my top QB still on the board.
     
  12. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    I havent seen him listed anywhere before the late 2nd personally.

    I just dont like picking a developmental corner in the first round.
     
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  13. Striking

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    I will say this is a draft for 2021. And that is disappointing to me because I was hoping for more help for this year. Two 2nd round picks to do that tomorrow night.
     
  14. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    You can't possibly know that. Just because you ran a few mocks and sims doesn't actually equate to reality.

    The justification is that Flores is a CB guy and felt that this kid had a ton of potential. He's raw, but shows good talent and is a physical specimen. He was a dude we were linked to pre-draft as a dude that Flores in particular was super high on both for on-field play and intangibles.

    If they liked his value over that of what you perceive as "need" I'm not going to complain. Save it for two years from now when we have a good idea how he actually plays.
     
  15. mooseguts

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    Well on the flip side the Dolphins don't draft a player unless they do their research. You're assuming your research is more valid than the entire Dolphins staff. You do your research in your spare time, they do their research full time.
     
  16. AGuyNamedAlex

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    He could be the best CB on our roster in 2 years and I'd still consider it a bad pick honestly. Unless we are getting rid of Howard, there is almost 0 benefit to having 3 dominant corners over having 2 and 1 solid player.
     
  17. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Dolfan Dupree's uninformed opinion on the first round.

    Wow that was one of the most fun first rounds in a long time. 3 first round picks, all the way throughout. I walked at least 1000 steps waiting for pick #5.

    #5: Tua. This is exactly who I wanted at exactly where I wanted. Grier and whoever puts out rumors did an amazing job of giving all the information out there to make sure Tua was there. I am confident his hip will be fine. The other injuries don't bother me. He does best at what I want quarterbacks to do best at, which is find where to throw the ball and then throw the ball with good placement. I am looking forward to getting his jersey.

    #18: Jackson: After everyone saying Dolphins take safe picks, Grier went for the home run. This guy is a 1st round talent but doesn't have first round anything else. He needs to work on his hands and feet. However, great guy. One of the reasons he needs to work on his hands and feet is that he missed the offseason last year because he donated bone marrow to save his sister's life. Probably the happiness sob story of the 1st round because everyone had a dead someone they dedicate their season too. I don't know if he is going to play next season, however, he probably will because the people who are ahead of him are very bad at football. If he starts, my guess, is that he is going to look bad until he looks good. In good news for him there probably won't be a season next year anyway.

    #26: Traded for 30th and 136th. I see Miami trying to use 136 or 141 to trade up with their 3rd. Or maybe 141 and two 5ths for another 3rd. Load up on talent! We will see tomorrow.

    #30: Igbinoghene: A name I have seen people talk about sneaking into the first round. The Dolphin went all money positions in the first round. QB, T, and CB. Flores plays a lot of CBs and last year they were all street free agents. Now they have Jones, Howard, and Igbinoghene. The player that wins the player most likely needed to look up how to spell his name every time I need to type about him. CK was talking about how basically they would keep X on the boundary, have Jones follow the best wide receiver, and use Igbinoghene in slot or boundary depending on where Jones has to go. Flores likes playing 5 and 6 DBs. The DB after Jones and X is Needam. Say No More! A great talent. I am excited about seeing him play.

    Overall grade: A+ because of Tua. It looks to be a very forward-looking draft.
     
  18. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Wow, really? 0 benefit? Really? Seriously? REALLY? I mean seriously? Really? Are you sure?
     
  19. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Zero benefit to three dominant players in the defensive backfield? If not even dominant, three great players.

    You sound like a complete moron.
     
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  20. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    Yes, because the talent in WR also drops as you go down a depth chart. There is little benefit in the NFL to overloading at specific positions where a solid veteran would have as much impact.
     
  21. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I have never disagreed with anything more.
     
  22. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    You clearly dont understand the concept of diminishing returns.

    The point is it's more beneficial to have that talent allocated elsewhere than somewhere you already have it.
     
  23. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    This is a you problem bro. Maybe sit on it for awhile.
     
  24. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    I forgot NFL teams stop getting weapons at the WR position after one guy.
     
  25. hitman8

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    Fastest cornerback in the draft? WTF are you talking about? He ran a 4.48, he is not even in the top ten for fastest CB in the draft.

    He is a massive reach at probably the position of less need on the entire team. There much better players available and at positions of actual need.
    If they really wanted this guy they could also have waited to the second or third and still got him.
     
  26. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    He has to roll with it now. Going back on it he would lose any credibility he had in the first place. Which was probably zero.
     
  27. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    That isnt what I said. Learn to read please because you're entirely misrepresenting the concept.

    The idea is that it is more beneficial to have that talent allocated across multiple positions than stacked at one.

    We lack potential starters at multiple key positions, a third CB of a high level is less impactful than a good starter at one of those positions.

    That is what I said. You can disagree, but it isnt insane.
     
  28. USArmyFinFan

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    I was thinking the same thing, hard to win a game when you can't pass the ball. Run defense was addressed in free agency, might have a better pass rush then some think.
     
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  29. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    You lost bro. Take the anonymous internet message board I sound like an idiot L.
     
  30. hitman8

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    Lol, so now there is no such thing as a reach? Good one.
     
  31. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    DBs are the most important part of the defense and after X and BJ the cupboard is pretty bare in Miami. Pick makes sense.
     
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  32. texanphinatic

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    It's a good thing you know better than like our actual front office what they needed so you can say they suck. :up:
     
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  33. USArmyFinFan

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    That is exactly what you said the first time, you explained it better the second time. Though I don't completely agree with you, I can understand
     
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  34. AGuyNamedAlex

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    I'm not trying to win or lose. I honestly couldn't care less what anyone here thinks. Popular opinion doesnt make something correct, results do. So when the results of the picks are settled we can talk.
     
  35. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    He's not a reach though. We picked a borderline first round talent ... at the end of the first round. It's alright, chill.
     
  36. hitman8

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    Keep defending the FO, god knows they have done such a great job in Miami for so many years.
     
  37. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    You are literally doing and arguing the exact opposite of what you stated.
     
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  38. TheHighExhaulted

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    Go help an old lady cross the street then.
     
  39. USArmyFinFan

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    I must of misread, my mistake
     
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  40. hitman8

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    No mock anywhere had him going before the end of the 2nd round at best. He is a reach, every scouting report on him says he is raw and in need of lots of development, that is not the type of guy you pick in the 1st round when there were multiple other better players on the board who could come in and start right away at positions of actual need.
     

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