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Ryan Tannehill

Discussion in 'Other NFL' started by bbqpitlover, Oct 16, 2019.

Ryan Tannehill is...

  1. A terrible QB

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  2. A below average QB

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  3. An average QB

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  4. An above average QB

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  5. An elite QB

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  6. The GOAT.

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  1. JPPT1974

    JPPT1974 2022 Mother's Day and May Flowers!

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    Tannehill is really thriving with the Titans. Just hope that Tua will do that once the keys of the Fins are handed to him!
     
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  2. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Meanwhile, the Titans played in the AFC Championship last season and...

    Despite no preseason games, the Titan are 1-0 THIS season
     
  3. Cashvillesent

    Cashvillesent A female Tannehill fan

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    Tanny will have no AJ Brown this week.

    No Adoore or Butler on defense.

    Shoot out against Minshewmania?
     
  4. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    not sure what game you watched but derick henry carried his *** again, last 4 plays of the drive, derick henry handoffs for 33 yards... then tannehill audibles on 3rd n 1 for a TD and throws a less accurate pass to a WR that even Jamarcus Russel could of completed.
     
  5. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    If the front office has built the offensive unit to suit Tagovailoa's skills set, then he'll succeed. If they've done same old status quo "this is how we do it in the NFL"...good luck!
     
  6. The Guy

    The Guy Well-Known Member

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    Here's an article that bears on this:

    http://www.footballperspective.com/quarterbacks-win-probability-added-and-the-super-bowl-part-1/
     
  7. cbrad

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    He's adding up WPA, which is useful info, but it's not addressing the issue I brought up, which is that a given WPA increment isn't equally likely at different WP. For example, if WP is very high, it's impossible to have a high positive WPA because you're already at the uppermost end of the scale, while a high negative WPA is not only possible but a lot easier. That's why I said you'd want to use the distribution of WPA as a function of each value of WP to turn WPA into "z-scores".
     
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  8. FinFaninBuffalo

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    LOL, I can tell when people have lost the argument, because they all resort to hyperbole...... Never mind that the game winning drive started at their own 10. Never mind that there were 4 previous long drives (including one that started on their own 1). Never mind that the 16 yard run that put them in FG position was only the 2nd run on the drive. Just ignore that the next few plays were runs because they wanted to kill the clock. Nevermind that the incomplete pass to Brown was catchable and the QB had to make sure to not throw the ball short. They were on the 7 and incomplete pass is no big deal there.

    Game winning drive on the road, that kills the clock, against a very good defense, at altitude.... yeah, Tannehill sucks.... LOL.
     
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  9. The Guy

    The Guy Well-Known Member

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    Right, i.e. garbage time. In the example with Mahomes I illustrated earlier, he took Kansas City's WP from 4.7% to 100% in less than seven and a half minutes. Imagine the WPA per play in that scenario.

    What's interesting is that you could just as easily consider that "garbage time" in that Mahomes's probability of winning the game was so low, and he stood only to accumulate meaningless other stats during that period. The fact that he actually won the game with the same other (traditional) stats has to be accorded additional meaning with something like WPA.
     
  10. FinFaninBuffalo

    FinFaninBuffalo Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I'm not the only one who thinks Brown should have caught the TD:

    upload_2020-9-20_11-6-9.png

    BTW, there were several other dropped passes during the game.
     
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  11. Cashvillesent

    Cashvillesent A female Tannehill fan

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    Tannehill with a sweet throw to Jonnu for a TD.
     
  12. Cashvillesent

    Cashvillesent A female Tannehill fan

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    Another lazor throw to Davis in the endzone by Tannehill.

    What. A. Beast.
     
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  13. FinFaninBuffalo

    FinFaninBuffalo Well-Known Member

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    8/10 139 yards, 2 TDS in the first quarter. Sure glad Henry’s 4 carries for 9 yards is carrying Tannehill.
     
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  14. Cashvillesent

    Cashvillesent A female Tannehill fan

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    ^

    Without no run game at all.

    [​IMG]
     
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  15. FinFaninBuffalo

    FinFaninBuffalo Well-Known Member

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    Tannehill has a passer rating of 156 in the first half.
     
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  16. FinFaninBuffalo

    FinFaninBuffalo Well-Known Member

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    5 TD passes in 6 quarters..... slacker....
     
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  17. Cashvillesent

    Cashvillesent A female Tannehill fan

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    Man this offense could be scary when Brown returns.
     
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  18. FinFaninBuffalo

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    This game is why you can’t look just at run/pass ratio in a vacuum. Most of the half was passing. One drive where the Titans were trying to kill clock at the end of the 2nd quarter accounted for most of the runs. A naive look at the totals 17 runs and 14 throws gives a completely false impression of what happened.
     
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  19. FinFaninBuffalo

    FinFaninBuffalo Well-Known Member

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    Passer rating 157.44......
     
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  20. Bumrush

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    Tannehill stepping it up this week.
     
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  21. Cashvillesent

    Cashvillesent A female Tannehill fan

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    Did you just see this TD to Humphries? He took a hit and delivered a dime for a TD.
     
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  22. FinFaninBuffalo

    FinFaninBuffalo Well-Known Member

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    LOL.... 4 TD passes. 3rd and 9 in the red zone....18 yard TD pass....God damn low degree of difficulty QB...... LOL
     
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  23. Cashvillesent

    Cashvillesent A female Tannehill fan

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    Has to be career high for Tanne
     
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  24. FinFaninBuffalo

    FinFaninBuffalo Well-Known Member

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    Ridiculous throw. And now typical for Tannehill.
     
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  25. TheHighExhaulted

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    In conclusion the Anti-Tannehill guys are morons.

    Just end this stupid thread already.
     
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  26. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    So close the thread

    It's been established that Tannehill is a very good QB with occasional flashes of being elite.

    Case closed. Nothing more to discuss.
     
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  27. cbrad

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    Wow.. elite Tannehill today. Let me get this post in before I hopefully watch Miami win a game they were supposed to lose (Miami just scored a TD to take the lead 20-17!!).

    So, update on statistical significance. The probability that Tannehill's stats in Tennessee vs Tannehill's stats in Miami belong to the "same QB" is now even LESS than it was at the end of 2019. It's now an unbelievably tiny 0.018%!

    Tannehill's 2020 passer rating is now 120.74 (on 67 attempts.. let's wait for 150 attempts before making more out of that).
     
  28. The Guy

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    Great game by him today, and a great start to the season, with greater independence from Henry than last year.
     
  29. MikeHoncho

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    Always feel good knowing the Tanny-led Titans are doing well. 4 TDs too.
     
  30. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Solid QB play today.
     
  31. Cashvillesent

    Cashvillesent A female Tannehill fan

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  32. FinFaninBuffalo

    FinFaninBuffalo Well-Known Member

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    Reminds me of the Gruden QB camp with Tannehill. Gruden showed a clip of Tannehill taking a shot as he delivered the ball, just like the throw to Humphries. Gruden asks “do you like that?” Tannehill response “I bet I completed it”. .... He did.... I knew right then about his guts and toughness.
     
  33. mlb1399

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    He’s always been who I’ve thought he was. You build enough great talent and he can perform. Not elite and when a team good enough can put the pressure on him, he’ll resort to turnovers and sacks.

    We’d still be 2 years away where he’d have that type of talent.
     
  34. Cashvillesent

    Cashvillesent A female Tannehill fan

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    Well his defense allowed a scrub to rush for 130 yards and almost came back. Henry was shut down the entire game.
     
  35. FinFaninBuffalo

    FinFaninBuffalo Well-Known Member

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    And he was without his #1 WR....
     
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  36. muskrat21

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    you know you win the argument when people think you lost.

    that's not hyperbole my friend, that WR had 10 yards of seperation and somehow tannehill still managed to over throw him by 10 yards.

    also when your kicker has missed 4 field goals already, you don't leave it in his hands.....


    oh look in the jacksonville game, derick henry wins them the game again. the only passes tannehill completes is play action. you know why? because they have a threat of a 1800+ yard rusher so his WR's are always 5 yards open. on ANY play that wasn't PA it was incomplete and/or almost intercepted.

    if derick henry gets hurt or there is no run threat, the titans are fukced bc tannehill won't win games when he has to throw.
     
  37. FinFaninBuffalo

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    LOL...... Tannehill had 4 TD passes....Henry averaged 3.4 yards per carry ....
     
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  38. TheHighExhaulted

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    Absolutely clueless.
     
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  39. cbrad

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    Actually no. This was a game where Tannehill set up Henry more than the other way around. The quick strikes early in the game were on Tannehill. You can credit Henry for being good enough that the Titans could keep running the ball after Tannehill gave them an early lead, but this is one game where if you had to pick one player that "won" the game it's Tannehill.
     
  40. The Guy

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    The above isn't accurate to that extreme, but it is true that last year his passer rating was 143.5 on play-action passes, and 104.8 on non-play-action passes. Last week those figures were 128.6 and 79.2. This week's figures aren't yet available.

    With Henry's poorer performance than usual over the first two weeks, it'll be interesting to see if defenses change the way they defend the Titans, and if so, how that will affect Tannehill.
     

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