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Tua Might Be Out Multiple Weeks

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Nov 29, 2020.

  1. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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  2. Irishman

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    I wish they could give us a time range as to when he could return.
     
  3. firedan

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    Who is the back up QB today?
     
  4. The Guy

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    I'm shocked. ;)
     
  5. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Practices all week now he's in danger of missing multiple weeks ok.
     
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  6. Ronnie Bass

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    I got a buddy who keeps telling me how fragile Tua is - this sure won't shut him up.
     
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  7. JJ_79

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    Well it seems he has a point. Hope that changes...
     
  8. flounder97

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    If we are riding Fitz the rest of the season, not sure how we don’t sign him for a couple more seasons.
     
  9. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    As what?
     
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  10. Hooligan

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    In view of Tua's track record of not being able to play a full season without getting hurt you damn well better get a good back-up to have a shot at making the play-offs.
     
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  11. The Guy

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    They probably should. He'd be a great backup and ongoing mentor for Tua.
     
  12. mlb1399

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    That was my concern heading into the draft. On top of having doubts about his overall game translating well to the NFL.
     
  13. pumpdogs

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    Exactly what chris simms said!.
    You look at Bama this year they haven't missed a beat without Tua.
     
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  14. canesz06

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    That's because it doesnt matter who plays QB for them. Any QB would look good with that line and those weapons. Name one great bama QB since Saban has been there that has done anything in the NFL. We wasted a pick on him
     
  15. pumpdogs

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    Yea!I agree.I watched alot film on Tua and came away unimpressed.Saw to much credit given to him with short passed turned into 80 yd tds.
    Average arm,average mobility,average pocket presence,and injury prone did not equal to me 5th pick in draft.
    But let's hope we are both wrong.
    Getting to old to keep waiting for the guy
     
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  16. TheHighExhaulted

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    Such a dumb point.
     
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  17. pumpdogs

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    How so?
     
  18. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Because you could make that "argument" about literally any player on a good team. It's dumb. You don't penalize a good player for being on a good team.
     
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  19. TheHighExhaulted

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    Are you serious? Because Alabama will always have the best, second best or third best player in the country at every position. You can't be that naive.
     
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  20. pumpdogs

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    You just made my point for me.
    Best line,best wrs.So Tuas stats meant nothing.
     
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  21. pumpdogs

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    So how do you know the player is actually good?5 yard slant turns into 80 yd pass for td?Was it the Qb or wr that's runs a 4.3.You sure aren't seeing that now are you?
     
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  22. TheHighExhaulted

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    Yet in the NFL he's 3-1, 6 TDs 0 picks with elite talent lacking at every single position on offense.
     
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  23. pumpdogs

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    So why did he get benched?
     
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  24. Silverphin

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    A. He's injured.

    B. It's the Jets.
     
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  25. pumpdogs

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    Meant last week when he got pulled.
     
  26. Silverphin

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    He was playing with a hurt foot, which was obviously effecting him because even the announcers noted it.
     
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  27. mlb1399

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    Giving Tua credit for those 3 wins would be like me taking credit for the sun rising.

    Giving any credit to anything besides the defense and special teams would be very disingenuous. That isn’t just a knock on Tua. Our offense is woefully bad. The conundrum of Fitz vs Tua is the same one who can consistently get our offense going is the one who also turns it over too much. I’m hoping Tua becomes some combo of both QB’s.
     
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  28. TheHighExhaulted

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    Sorry but quarterbacks will always be associated with wins and losses. You can't nitpick which games were won by a big defensive play or special teams play and all of a sudden it doesn't count.
     
  29. KeyFin

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    I really don't want to bring it up, but he's missed multiple games per season all the way back to his freshman year in high school. He's NEVER played a full season at any level. That's the only reason I didn't want to draft him.

    It's still super early though and he's already showed flashes...I think he'll be just fine long term. My bigger concern is getting a quality backup for the post-Fitz era though because Tua tends to miss games over smaller injuries.
     
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  30. Vertical Limit

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    It is a freak injury... though multiple weeks for a thumb sounds more severe than they want to report.

    ill just say this as i said many times before, being a franchise quarterback is not just winning and stats, it also means being available. The teams that have quarterbacks missing games constantly almost never succeed.
     
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  31. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    While I agree with you, almost every starting quarterback in the league has missed significant time at some point throughout their career.
    Darnold, Newton, Roethlisberger, Burrow, Tannehill, Minshew, Watson, Mahomes, Carr, Taylor, Lock, Wentz, Alex Smith, Dak Prescott, Daniel Jones, Aaron Rodgers, Stafford, Trubisky, Brady, Brees, Bridgewater, Jimmy G have all suffered injuries at some point in their careers. That leaves Josh Allen, Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, Rivers, Cousins, Matt Ryan, Murray, Goff, and Wilson as the only QB's to have remained durable.
     
  32. mlb1399

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    And you can’t ignore the context you were attempting to use.
     
  33. Irishman

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    The Chinese have a saying; "The longest journey starts with the first step".

    I always thought that was obvious.

    The same thing goes for pass catchers; the first step of his journey is to get the ball from the QB. The QB can't run it for him but he can help make sure the receiver can get the ball. It takes two to Tango.
     
  34. Sceeto

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    6 ft QB, 5 injuries and 3 surgeries in college, ("hurt in college, hurt in the pros"), the last major injury that required surgery was just a year ago, In college he played with an all star cast of WRs, OL, DL and RB, etc.
     
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  35. texanphinatic

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    Scouts and GMs are paid to do more than watch the game on network TV man and read a Stat sheet dude.

    Again, by your argument you literally cannot take anyone from a great program. Why take a WR, it was all the OL and QB getting them time and the ball. Why take an OL when it was a great WR and QB tandem. Why take a great safety when you have a great pass rush. Oh, you think that DE is great? Nah, must be the corner backs actually.
     
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  36. texanphinatic

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    Trevor Lawrence plays with an all star cast. Better not draft him!
     
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  37. KeyFin

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    I think it's a legitimate concern on Alabama QB's the way they're out-drafting the rest of the country. The should honestly change their name to "1st Round U" and be done with it.

    For instance, both Fitz and Tua have thrown to Parker/Williams A TON this season when they're not really open...they're just pure 50/50 balls that we'll win almost every time in single coverage. Credit the QB for getting the ball there, but those big-time catches does cover up a lot of the other stuff and pads the stat sheets.

    When you have those dynamic playmakers, it's easy to forget that it's not all the QB like in more traditional offenses. And that's not a knock on Tua, but a lot of people are in "show me" mode because of it.
     
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  38. texanphinatic

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    No, you just can't discount players for that. It's possible a good team hides a few bad players, but that's why you have the scouts and such to dig in and really review things.

    And Alabama isn't the singular factory it was in the first few years of Sabans tenure. Ohio State and Clemson are both in that echelon, and LSU, Georgia, Oklahoma and such are there as well.

    The biggest issue with Bama players imo is that they often seemed to come maxed out and didn't continue to grow or develop. However, some of their recent skill players seem to have broken that mold, and they never had recruited a QB like Tua either. They changed their entire offense to be more modern and are now going after elite QBs in a way they never had to until DeSean Watson pasted them.
     
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  39. flounder97

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    Punter makes the most sense.

    In all seriousness, I’m thinking of him as a backup. I’m hoping Tua heals and works out, but Fitz has proven that he’s fine with taking the backup role and it really helps to have a guy that is familiar with all the players that can step in when things like this happen. If nothing else I’m thinking of the continuity of the team. He is also seems willing to mentor Tua. if that’s all he does next season...awesome. But I’m not sure how you let a very serviceable player leave the organization.
     
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  40. hitman8

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    This, past performance is the biggest indicator of future results. I don't know how anybody could think he would all of a sudden be less injury prone in the NFL, where everybody runs faster and hits harder.
     
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