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Jason Sanders

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Oct 11, 2020.

  1. DolPhinPhan7

    DolPhinPhan7 Well-Known Member

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    Missed one yesterday.

    It seems that when a Dolphins drive stalls, it always stalls around the 30-yard-line. He's always gotta hit 40+ yard kicks.

    I'm happy the Defence got the ball back in less than 2 minutes and he got a chance to make up for it. But again, a long kick.
     
  2. AGuyNamedAlex

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    Yeah he missed one but then made maybe his best looking kick of the year next time out. Granted it wasnt his longest, but that kick looked limitless. I wouldnt be surprised if that was good from 60+.
     
  3. firedan

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    Nice honor but no tears for the touch football game getting axed.
     
  4. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    Want to know a secret?

    Sanders didn't "miss" it. He missed it on purpose. Dude's a nice guy and didn't want to drive up the score.
     
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  5. KeyFin

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    Don't ask me why, but I'm glad he missed it! The media was starting to build that hype around him as Mr. Automatic when it's obvious he would miss one eventually. It's good that extra pressure is off his back since kickers definitely don't need it. Very glad his 1st miss wasn't a potential game-winner or some kind of super-clutch moment.

    With that said, I wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't miss another one this entire year. He's definitely one of the best in the league.
     
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  6. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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  7. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Well the Pro Bowl itself is so boring anymore that I don't even watch it. Once upon a time it used to be a ***REAL*** football game with the BEST of the BEST playing a hard nosed football game. Your true fantasy football teams if you would, but now it's nothing more than a glorified flag football game.

    My only interest in the Pro Bowl anymore is to see who is actually recognized for their individual achievements throughout the season and Sanders had BETTER be one of them. That kid is virtually Mr Automatic!
     
  8. AGuyNamedAlex

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    I actually dont mind it being more of a scrimmage game but they should advertise it that way rather than like it's a game featuring amazing players that will be taken seriously.
     
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  9. Galant

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  10. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Alex, I have a distinct feeling you're significantly younger than I am...therefore you don't remember or you've never seen some of the BEST football ever played during the Pro Bowl. It used to be an exciting game, almost up there with the Super Bowl.

    Now, it's mere a shell of its former self...a hollow husk of a game. Putting Madden on auto-play is more exciting than the Pro Bowl. the 1999 Pro Bowl is when it started becoming and offensive scrimmage and it was (and remains) so bad that in order to attract fans lost due to the boredom of the game, the NFL instituted the gimmick of "Team Captains" selecting their non-conference teams. That fiasco failure lasted only 5 years before returning to the conference vs conference format but even in doing so, it's gotten even worse as it's nothing but a glorified flag football game.

    But steering back onto topic...Jason Sanders should indeed be selected to the Pro Bowl, even though it is cancelled due to the coronavirus. But even if the game were to be played, you wouldn't see Sanders kick a 50+ yard field goal, only numerous PATs from the ridiculous number of touchdowns that would be "scored".
     
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  11. AGuyNamedAlex

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    The thing is there is absolutely no reason to have players going full on in a meaningless game in my opinion.

    I very much respect that it used to be a real game but knowing what we do about the human body, injuries, long term brain damage from repeated impact, ect I just dont see a reason for it at all.

    Even if it was a real game I probably wouldnt end up watching it just because of the fact it has no meaning honestly.
     
  12. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    The Pro Bowl Alex, as it was originally conceived does have meaning. It is pitting the BEST against the BEST which is no different than the NBA or MLB All Star Games. You’re fielding the absolute best in the game. It showcases the best offensive linemen against the best defensive linemen, the best wide receivers against the best cornerbacks or safeties, the best running backs, the best quarterbacks...this is how this game was originally played, to be the best, you have to beat the best.

    What better way is there to show you are the best at your position? What better way is there to showcase your talent in this day and age of free agency? If I as a GM or HC are in need of an offensive lineman, what game do I want to watch of him, a game against the hapless Jets, or one of him in the Pro Bowl showing me what he can do?

    No, this game has meaning...at least it once did. Now it’s nothing more than a guaranteed $35,000+ paycheck and an all expense paid participation trophy vacation for a bunch of self entitled millionaires paid to play a game...that they aren’t playing.

    If they’re not going to actually PLAY because the game is meaningless, then get rid of it all together.
     
  13. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    As a piece of entertainment when you get to see players who will never play with each other, it is fun.

    However, even back then it was meaningless. Players played harder because they were paid peanuts and were able to make a good paycheck if they won the game. Once the economics stopped making sense to the players the game play got worse, especially since an injury in the Pro Bowl could hurt their economic viability.

    If you want the probowl to be viable game the NFL needs to do something like double the yearly salary of the winners or something to give the players an economic incentive to want to win the game.
     
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  14. AGuyNamedAlex

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    I think we may have different definitions of meaningful and meaningless.

    In my eyes anything that doesnt count towards or help you prepare for a Championship is meaningless in the NFL or really any sport.
     
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  15. KeyFin

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    Umm, that describes all of preseason, the 17 weeks of football and all the playoff games. It is all 100% meaningless unless you're a fan of football or an athlete being paid to play a sport that you love.

    Athletes don't play for championships- they play because they simply love the game that much. That makes every opportunity meaningful or completely meaningless, depending on your perspective.
     
  16. KeyFin

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    So, you're a great player and you get to compete against all the other great players....and you can't see an opportunity there for each athlete to see how elite they really are?
     
  17. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    No it doesn't.

    Preseason gives people a chance to prepare for the season. Winning the game is meaningless, but it has more meaning to the season than the Probowl, which as none.

    17 weeks of football help determine who goes to the championship.

    Playoffs determine who gets to the championship.

    Even games that do not determine playoffs most of the time determine draft position that helps build teams so they can get to the championship.

    All have a lot more meaning than the Pro Bowl.
     
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  18. KeyFin

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    Tell me, how many players have quit the NFL in the history of the game because their team didn't win the Super Bowl?

    You're confusing what's meaningful to you with what's meaningful to players. Because if you ask any player, every game is meaningful.
     
  19. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Your logic is very flawed.

    I see no reason to continue this conversation.
     
  20. AGuyNamedAlex

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    This covers basically everything I could or would have possibly said. If a person doesnt agree with your post they wont agree with anything I say either on this topic so it's not really useful for me to add anything further aside from one thing.

    Players are the reason the Pro Bowl is the way it is. So we can in fact come to the conclusion that the Pro Bowl game itself is mostly meaningless to the NFLPA at the very least.
     
  21. Galant

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  22. KeyFin

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    There's no way he shouldn't make the Pro Bowl this season.
     
  23. The_Dark_Knight

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    In this day and age of popularity contests, he's a Miami Dolphin. That in itself is enough reason for him not to be selected. :pity:
     
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  24. Galant

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    Normally I'd agree but this year things have started to change a little. Flores and the Dolphins achievements on defense and special teams, not to mention a high-viz draft pick in Tua, have meant that we've been getting more national attention than normal.

    I don't know if it's enough to bring Phins players to mind for the voters but I think we're starting to move out of the NFL's "no-man's land".

    I will add that I don't care about the Pro-Bowl at all - neither the game nor the selections. It is just a popularity vote and doesn't even move the needle on my relevance meter.
     
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