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Dolphins trade down to 12 Then Back to #6

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by FphinFantastic, Mar 26, 2021.

  1. FphinFantastic

    FphinFantastic Member

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    Trade #3 pick to 49ers for 2021 #12 and 3rd rounder plus 2022 and 2023 first round picks

    #fleeced


    UPDATE after Eagles trade
    Phins drop to #6 and acquire San Fran 2023 1st rounder, and 2021 3rd rounder and also swap picks With eagles sending phins 123 for eagles 156.
     
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  2. Destroyer

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    This is exactly what I was hoping they would do and they actually did it for once. The only gripe I have is that I was hoping we'd be picking 8-10.
     
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  3. FphinFantastic

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    Could package that third and another to move back up??
     
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  4. Phinz13

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    not sure why we pulled the trigger so soon before the draft- was Carolina and/or Denver and other suitors totally out??
     
  5. KeyFin

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    Excellent move by Miami- we got our two future 1st rounders and still probably in place for the remaining top receiver in this draft...but we're also in a great position to grab Parsons or someone that slides.

    Very happy with this early move, it's essentially the Tunsil trade all over again! Now we also have our 2nd favorite team to root against as well, LOL.
     
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  6. Phinz13

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    Tunsil best dolphins drafted player ever!! 4 first rounders for him.
     
  7. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    We just turned #3 overall into 3 first rounders and a 3rd round pick by moving back 9 total spots....plus there was no value selection for us at #3 anyway. We pulled the trigger because it was a fantastic value.
     
  8. Pennington's Limp Arm

    Pennington's Limp Arm Well-Known Member

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    This is too far down for my liking.

    Are the scouts not pounding the table on any prospects in the top 10 ? If not why... are they not confident in their ability to assess talent ?

    Are they just telling Grier ‘any of those 3 receivers or Pitts are going to be good picks’. Those players are going to have very different levels of success. And it’s the scouts/player evaluators job to identify who is the best and pound the table. ‘This one is going to be the hall of famer!’.
     
  9. tirty8

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    Dude, when you get a deal like that, you take it. Trades really do not get much bigger than this.

    You start getting greedy, and all of a sudden the Jets swoop in and make a deal with SF, you could really, really regret not taking it.
     
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  10. tirty8

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    What?!?!?

    Holy guacamole! I think SF mooooooore than paid for the inconvenience of moving down farther than we would like to have gone down. Grier just more than I reasonably thought that any team would be willing to give up. Talk about maximizing value.
     
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  11. Finatik

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    Bleh - So much for getting a top end playmaker. It's a draft haul in the future but it doesn't help us this year. No Sewell. No Pitts. No love.
     
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  12. KeyFin

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    4 to 5 QB's are expected to go in the top 10, meaning that there will be a few "top-10" talents that make it to #12. That's who we're going to sign...it's basically the Tunsil/bong gas mask situation all over again. We're going to draft the steal of the early 1st round.

    My guess is that it ends up being Waddle or Parsons.
     
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  13. Phinz13

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    I'll call it right now:
    #12 - Rashod Bateman (unless one of the top 4 WR drop)
    #18 - Najee Harris

    LETS GO!!!!
     
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  14. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Traded back up to 6.
     
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  15. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    From PFT:
    On a wild day of trading in the NFL, the Dolphins have now made two big moves.

    Shortly after pulling off a blockbuster trade with the 49ers to send the third overall pick to San Francisco, the Eagles have traaded the 49ers’ 2021 first-round pick, No. 12 overall, to the Eagles.

    Philadelphia will ship the sixth overall pick in this year’s draft to Miami for No. 12 overall and a 2022 first-round pick. (The Eagles will also ship the 156th overall pick to Miami and get the 123rd overall pick in the deal.) It’s unclear which 2022 first-round pick the Dolphins have sent to the Eagles.

    By moving down from No. 6 to No. 12, the Eagles have likely taken themselves out of the quarterback derby, a sign that they’re all-in on Jalen Hurts as their starting quarterback this year.

    By moving back up to No. 6, the Dolphins have signaled that they might take a quarterback after all, which would be a bad sign for their faith in Tua Tagovailoa. It’s also possible, however, that the Dolphins won’t take a quarterback and just think they can add an elite player at No. 6 who won’t be there at No. 12.

    Today is one of the biggest days the NFL has ever seen for draft pick trades.
     
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  16. FphinFantastic

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    Oh wait we just moved to 6!!!!
     
  17. JimToss

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    Honestly, could this be additional ammo for Wilson/Watson?
     
  18. JJ_79

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    Nice deal, would have preferred to stay inside the top 10 but the extra 2 first rounders + the 3rd sound pretty sweet!
     
  19. FphinFantastic

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    I was just thinking this till they moved back up just now. Actually deleted it as I was watching ESPN lol
     
  20. FphinFantastic

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    Now at least 3 qb’s go in top 6. Maybe even a 4th, who knows. So who do we get now....
     
  21. Pennington's Limp Arm

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    They gave up all control of the player they will be picking. Basically said we’re good with whatever is left. No desire or passion shown to add a specific talent to this team right now.

    Enough of this trash. Do everything we can to win right now ! When is our time?

    2023 pick smh. Noah I. was a 1st round pick too.
     
  22. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Trade: #Eagles have traded picks No. 6 and No. 156 overall to the Dolphins in exchange for No. 12 overall, No. 123 overall, and a 2022 first-round pick.


     
  23. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    This is the worst take.
     
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  24. KeyFin

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    So overall, we move from # 3 to #6 and gain an extra 1st rounder (2023) and 3rd rounder (2021). That's fair value...not the steal it appeared 10 minutes ago.

    However, it does signal that we're more focused on a top 5 player- Parsons, Smith, Pitts, etc. I think it's safe to say that we're not thinking about drafting a QB.

    Also, we just worked it to where we could have had Watson for #3 only (the 3 1sts that came from the move) and keep Tua...and we traded out of that position 10 minutes later. So I think this puts that strategy to rest as well.
     
  25. Pennington's Limp Arm

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    I didn’t see the additional move yet. I’m fine with moving back to 6.

    It’s very evident 4 QB’s are going top 5. And very likely Sewell will be other top 5 pick.

    So the Dolphins do still basically have control of who they get. They can still get ‘THEIR’ guy. Which is what I wanted!

    We couldn’t do that at #12.
    Hence my ‘too far back take’.
    This changes everything I said before and I’m great with this actually.
     
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  26. Galant

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  28. Finatik

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    Tunsil - the gift that gives on giving
     
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  33. tirty8

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    Hahaha, well that concern got taken care of quickly.

    We good!
     
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  34. Pennington's Limp Arm

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    So looks like we gave up our own 2022 1st!

    Like this trade even more now. So much motivation to win this year. And brass confidently betting we will be better than SF next year.

    Also gets us back in front of Detroit and in a position to get the best pass catcher in the draft.
     
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  35. Pennington's Limp Arm

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    :ffic:
     
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  36. Berezo

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    Absolutely nailed it given our position of not wanting a QB. The only thing that puzzles me is Carolina. They desperately need a QB and I'm shocked they didn't offer their pick and two firsts like san fransisco did. Maybe Carolina only wants one guy and wants the Jets pick to guarantee it? Would have preferred the two first rounders and a pick at #8 but I think we got the very next best possible situation.
     
  37. JJ_79

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    Damn that‘s even better then the first deal, love it! Hopefully it‘s Pitts we‘re after and if we’re lucky Parsons is there at 18.
     
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  38. TheHighExhaulted

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    So in conclusion...

    Miami now has the #6 overall pick in the 2021 draft.

    They traded away their own #1 pick in 2022.

    They received the 49ers first round pick in 2022 and 2023 and a third round pick in 2023.
     
  39. tirty8

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    I have a hard time seeing the first five picks of the draft not being:

    QB
    QB
    QB
    QB
    Sewell

    I think Pitts is the guy.
     
  40. TheHighExhaulted

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    I'm sorry the third round pick from San Francisco is in 2022.
     

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