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McDaniel - The Yin to the Dolphins' Yang

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by tirty8, Feb 6, 2022.

  1. tirty8

    tirty8 Well-Known Member

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    I am absolutely euphoric about this hire. I think that one of the best things about McDaniel is that he seemingly has an expertise in an area that the Dolphins lack - the trenches. I love getting a guy who has expertise that starts in the trenches and building out that sweet, sweet running game.

    Currently, we have an absolute disaster on the line despite using high draft capital to fill these positions out. I have long had a theory that we drafted too many flex guys who could play guard or tackle and may have actually wound up with a ton of guards. I think McDaniel can come in and very quickly figure out what these guy's best position is and put them in a place to maximize their skills. I also think that it is almost an advantage that he was not on the team when we drafted some of these guys and therefore has no allegiance to them. Whenever we get a new coach, there is always collateral damage, and some guys will be traded or cut. I think that this is a necessary step for us. If McDaniel thinks that Austin Jackson is a bust and we trade him for a 7th round pick, great. Let's move on from our mistake. If he thinks that he can work with him and help him realize his potential, fantastic. I just love having a guy who I think is competent enough to make these decisions. I have a feeling for the first time in a long time, we can get suitable guys in free agency that will work.

    Guys, I really, really like this hire.
     
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  2. FphinFantastic

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    First order of business might be to sign his stud OG Tomlinson who is slated to be UFA. We will see how much those guys like him over there lol. Guy only gave up 1 sack this season and it was in packers playoffs on a bull rush. He might have slipped…..
     
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  3. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't matter anymore what we think we got a new Head Coach and Im just happy we can start getting plan for this team together!
    What Im more inserted in is who he brings in as coached for the OC and DC. I sure hope he doesn't stick with who we got.

    Also I am worried he's going to be overwhelmed as a HC so I hope he brings in some veteran coaches to help out!

    Also im saying blessing that it wasn't Vance Joseph or Moore!!

    I think we got a really good young coordinator that may be able to be a great coach if he can make it past 3 years!
     
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  4. Chupacabra

    Chupacabra Member

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    sign some big boys, draft Breece Hall, Bailey Zappe or Strong, Christian Watson, Terry McBride and let’s go. Build for the future.
     
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  5. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    Keep Chris Grier out of the draft room, Coach McDaniel should have made that a condition to sign. Then I'd respect him out of the gate. Even if he fails as HC tbh.
     
  6. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    I like Zappe, would be nice to see him come in.
     
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  7. Chupacabra

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    Idk what it is but he has mobility, size, strength n some mahomes in him with the way he can side arm that thing.
     
  8. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    I watched about 80% or more of his snaps this year. I kept thinking he reminds me of Burrows how he gets the snap and knows where he is going with the ball. Of course their OC was impressive and he had lots of experience with the one WR, but I was impressed. Coach said he is best QB he ever coached and he coached Sam Donald and some other WKU record holders that had time in the NFL.
     
  9. Onehondo

    Onehondo Senior Member Club Member

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    I just hope Ross and Grier don't get in his way. I hope they are supportive instead of controlling.
     
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  10. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    He can only do so much. Without talent at key positions like quarterback, positive results will be minimal at best. I like the guy, not trying to be negative, but we just did this three years ago. How many games into next season before the regulars on here start calling for his public execution?
     
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  11. bbqpitlover

    bbqpitlover Well-Known Member

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    Haven't we seen this rodeo ? I remember when Gase was hired, he is an offensive genius he can fix Tannehill.
    Not trying to big negative here, I'm tired of the non stop rebuilds and the excuses 1985 was long ago.
     
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  12. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    The over/under is 10.
     
  13. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    pretry sure that was the reason we signed him he wasn’t going to rock the boat. He’s a first time head coach at any level! He’s not going to be given the power to draft and as long as he agrees with Chris Grier on who to pick he will get his man!
     
  14. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    Groundhog Day came late this year.
     
  15. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    The Dolphins are "insanity" with regards the expression, "Doing the same thing expecting different results."

    Flores: Positions coach
    Gase: Coordinator (Of losing team)
    Philbin: Coordinator
    Cameron: Coordinator
    Sparano: Positions coach
    Dave Wannstadt: Head Coach (compiled a 41-57 record before Miami)
    Jimmy Johnson: Head Coach: Last time Dolphins even tried to bring in someone who had a successful head coaching job before us. Not so coincidentally, the last time the Dolphins were even partially relevant.

    The Dolphins have not hired a former head coach since the turn of the century; 22 years ago. 23 years ago for former previously successful one.

    Not that any of these guys were put in a position to be set up for success since 2016, when Chris Grier took over as the head of football operations. Why should I be convinced that McDaniel isn't just another Flores, Gase? As Clown Farts continues to retain his favorite Yes man making the Dolphins a perpetual joke.
     
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  16. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    I'm getting strong Adam Gase type vibes from McDaniel. Another QB whisperer being brought in to salvage a mediocre QB.
     
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  17. Dolfanalyst

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    Anybody who portends that a head coach will be a failure is far more likely to be right than wrong. However, if there is a difference that can be detected between McDaniel and Gase at the present time, it's that McDaniel has had the goal of being a head coach since he started his coaching journey, making it the "career objective" on his resume for example, whereas Gase as a head coach functioned as though he wanted nothing more than to be a coordinator. If any of that translates, McDaniel will embrace the overarching responsibility and oversight of that position, whereas Gase shunned it.
     
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  18. Dolfanalyst

    Dolfanalyst Active Member

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    The problem with these sorts of analyses is that the rate of success for head coaches is so small that you'd be hard pressed to identify any strong predictor of it. Therefore you can nominate just about any variable like this one as a basis for predicting failure and make things sound ominous. Due to the low success rate of head coaches, things are ominous by default. There is likely no single variable you could use to make it less ominous.
     
  19. Fireland

    Fireland Well-Known Member

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    McDaniel could be a disaster for all we know but comparisons to Gase are just lazy
     
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  20. Dolfanalyst

    Dolfanalyst Active Member

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    That's what happens when you have a low prevalence of something (i.e., head coaching success) -- everything looks the same as everything else, because there are no adequate variables to use to distinguish things from each other in a predictive manner. You could also say McDaniel compares to Belichick and not be wrong. The issue is that there is nothing reliable to use to predict he'll be like either Gase or Belichick.
     
  21. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    Here's my predictor. Dolphins hire off the scrap heap because management can only handle "Yes Men." McDaniel's pupils turned to "$>$" and he became a "Yes Man." Probably why he required a contract, because he knew he couldn't do **** with Tua. Just a man trying to make a big pay day.

    As far as type of coach goes? Maybe, we'll see. As far as reason for bringing him in, this is shades of Gase/Tannehill all over again. McDaniel may be smarter than Gase though, he essentially ensured himself of 4 years of big pay.

    We all know the problem with the Fins though, and it's most likely going to continue to be a problem for the forseeable future.
     
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  22. pumpdogs

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    I am not saying he will be the answer but Gase and Philbin rode the coattails of two hall of fame QBs..
    I did not want any coach that works with a hall of fame QB.At least the 49ers won with an average QB kind of like we have here.We can win with a good run game and play defence
    The most important thing this dude needs to do is find a good offensive line coach.Then go into free agency and get 2 offensive lineman.
     
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  23. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    Only problem is SF has an amazing roster in spite of their QB and Miami has, well, Chris Grier….you know
     
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  24. Kud_II

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    Yeah my friend, it's like , McDaniel "could" theoretically be a good coach, but even good coaches can't turn chicken **** to chicken salad. Grier is going to keep dicking the butt of this team for who knows how long. Unless he gets lucky and makes the right picks, but I have serious doubts about his scouting abilities.
     
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