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News about Brown, Wilford, Ginn and Hill!

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Dolfan4Life, Sep 17, 2008.

  1. Dolfan4Life

    Dolfan4Life BostonStrong

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    Ronnie Brown
    Ernest Wilford
    Ted Ginn
    Renaldo Hill
    What do you guys think of these news?
     
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  2. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    All sounds about right. The Jason Allen drama is still fascinating to me. I know he's not the smartest guy in the world but he has to be better than Hill and Crocker.
     
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  3. Jackson

    Jackson Bruce Banner

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    Great news about Hill! more so because it takes crocker off of the field.
     
  4. dolphinfn3454

    dolphinfn3454 Season Ticket Holder

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    Looks good to me. Just glad to see Crocker outta the line up. Hill will do a better job. Wish Jason Allen would get some playing time though.
     
  5. Beelzebob

    Beelzebob New Member

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    Ronnie won't be 100% until next year. I'm fine with him and Ricky sharing the load.

    Ernest Wilford plays better in games but he just doesn't seem to be stepping up at all.

    Ted Ginn should be on the field until he passes out. The Phins have to find out exactly what the have in him.

    Renaldo Hill starting tells me that Jason Allen is a bust. The only reason he isn't starting has to be because he doesn't grasp the D.
     
  6. Brown42000

    Brown42000 Chillin

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    Disappointing to hear about Jason Allen but I'm glad that POS Crocker has been benched in favor of Renaldo Hill. Sounds like Sparano is being tough on them after the embarrassment last week.
     
  7. alen1

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    Good to see Ronnie Brown getting first team reps. He impressed me against Arizona. He was looking for contact and trying to make a play. I liked it. However, this means nothing if they don't give him at least 20 total touches.

    As for Wilford, what a disappointment man. He'll be gone as soon as possible.

    Glad to hear about Ginn. Maybe we'll see him get a pass thrown his way this week against the Patriots. I still want to see him at KO's. He also needs to do his own part of being physical and getting separation. He can be in the lineup all he wants but if he can't do those things, hes useless.

    Again, not happy with the Safety decision unless you will be running a 5 sub DB package like I said in my thread. Other than that, I want to see Jason Allen out there. Allen looked very good in training camp and I liked him in preseason but now he's not even being discussed as a possible starter? Not good imo. He made plays last year and has a better chance of doing so this year than Hill and Crocker.
     
  8. Crappy Tipper

    Crappy Tipper AKA Hero13

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    I think Hill is the best of the lot. J.Allen is a bust, never should have taken him.
     
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  9. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    wow, what a disappointment Allen is. I thought he made tremendous strides. Guess not.
     
  10. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

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    He needs to be. But he needs to be hard on his coaches as well. The whole Wilford thing blows my mind though. I guess now we know why he's not in Jax anymore.
     
  11. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    ive got Ronnie on my bench in two leagues. im patiently waiting to blow someones day up.
     
  12. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Disagree, I'm happy about the R. Hill promotion, our problem has been our Safeties did not know what the heck they were doing, Hill is a vet and will be better suited to Starting and Understanding the Defensive Calls.

    Disagree about JA as well, he can play anywhere in the Defensive Backfield, he just cannot make the Coverage Adjustments in order for him to start.

    I'd be happy to see JA as the nickel back or third safety in the 3-5-3..

    The best role for JA is to put him on the field and just let him play whatever slot.
     
  13. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Allen was one of the few, if not the only one, who made a play last year in the secondary. He does take some bad angles but he can also make plays. I want to see him over Hill and Crocker. I don't even want Crocker on the roster. Never had faith in him especially since we brought him from Atlanta who struggled in the secondary.
     
  14. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I believe there was speculation that Jacksonville inquired about Wilford after the last pre-season game but nothing went down.
     
  15. adamprez2003

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    great news getting Crocker on the bench. Hopefully Ayodele is next
     
  16. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Don't laugh Adamprez, but the guy I'd like to see playing ILB is Matt Roth...

    If he athletic enough to play OLB at 270 pds, he can play the middle and run and stuff...
     
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  17. Brown42000

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    I would like to see Porter in the middle with Anderson playing outside linebacker. Its worth a try.
     
  18. alen1

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    Interesting. The question is, how successful would Porter be rushing the passer from the middle? I rather have him taking on Tackles from the OLB spot. He's had success his whole career there, even though he has been disappointing this year.
     
  19. padre31

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    He would take Roth's spot at OLB...IMO he is more explosive then Roth.

    In my revamp

    Roth=ILB/Ayodele has a seat
    Lehan=Goodman becomes the Dime back
    Torbor=SOLB
    R. Hill=FS Crocker has a seat
    Jason Allen=Nickel Back maybe starting over Lehan or Goodman.

    A position switch for Roth and JA?

    Yes, JA is a better athlete then Goodman or Lehan and CB would take advantage of Allen's Athleticism, and Roth can cover much and run better then Crowder or Ayodele IMO.
     
  20. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    Why do I get the feeling that we are at the movies watching The Searchers with Bill playing John Wayne's part while everyone else is running around helter skelter. This show is not what I was hoping to have happen this year, oh well, back to the drawing board.:pity::cry::lol:
     
  21. HULKFish

    HULKFish Artist and Scribe

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    Let's not be so hasty... These issues are correctable. New players and schemes and rolls, busted coverages are correctable. You won't mistake CC or AA for Zach, that's for sure! Goodman will either step up or loose his spot! Ronnie is a beast and will get it going, Ricky too and the OL.
     
  22. djphinfan

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    WHY THE HELL IS LEHAN NOT STARTING!!!!!

    Sorry, i had to let that out, the dude looked nimble and quick when he intercepted that pass.............1 MONTH AGO..

    He must be injured because theres no way goodman should be out there over him..

    If goodman starts again were gonna get blown out again
     
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  23. texasPHINSfan

    texasPHINSfan New Member

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    can we fairly label jason allen a bust yet?

    i've never liked this kid, even when we drafted him. even last year i was calling him a bust, i was getting lambasted by the "development" birds on here. hey, he's had plenty of time. if he can't even come in on certain packages and is buried on the chart, he's a bust. period.

    wilford is completely useless... we should have cut him prior to the season and kept foster or someone else we could use.
     
  24. Brown42000

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    Foster is trash there is no way he should be on any NFL teams roster. Jason Allen does play in certain in packages.
     
  25. texasPHINSfan

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    i was using him as an example..... ANY other body that is more serviceable than wilford is good to me. Foster seriously out-performed Wilford in every practice & preseason game. i'm not calling Foster a pro-bowler, but he outperformed Wilford. why would we cut him and keep wilford? money? that's stupid. don't be married to a player b/c of an investment... keep the best players available to you.

    i am by no means a depth expert on every position on the team, but are you telling me we didn't need an extra LB, DB or any other body over wilford's roster spot?
     
  26. texasPHINSfan

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    we should at least keep him for depth. he's not a game-changer, but he's DEFINITELY serviceable and better than 65% of the other linebackers we have on the roster.... why wouldn't we re-sign/extend him?
     
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