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Tua speaks on his status

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Vinny Fins, Sep 30, 2022.

  1. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Because they want some obscure Dr. to get credit because it moves their agenda in...oh nevermind. I couldn't even come up with a reason why they would "lie" or even why they would care about this story other than to report it.
     
  2. cbrad

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    He's black. It's part of a trend of articles across Western media the last 2 years that tries to de-emphasize the contribution of white scientists/inventors and argue a black person or minority or indigenous person was more responsible. BBC has a bunch of articles trying that, and I forget which news outlet here but recently they did the same thing with the "inventor" of the lawn mower. An Englishman invented the lawn mower in 1830, but there were articles claiming John Burr (a black man) invented it in 1899. He improved it yes, but he didn't invent it. Exact same thing as in this article.

    I notice stuff like that more than you do maybe because I'm in science. But it's been a really annoying trend the last 2 years. I know this will all go away. It's an absurd attempt to rewrite history that's not going to work. But that's the "agenda".
     
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  3. hitman8

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    The problem with Tua's concussion is that it was very visible to everyone and looked very bad. We don't have any footage of Burrow laying unconscious on the field and having a creepy fencing response.
     
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  4. Serpico Jones

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    Mike Florio says last week showed the Dolphins “lack an adult in the room inside the organization.” He’s been ripping McDaniel all week.
     
  5. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Who cares?
     
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  6. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Actually if you think about it, NFL rosters SHOULD be expanded.

    I haven’t found anything to the contrary, but since I’ve been watching football…the undefeated 72 season…rosters were always 53 players, having 48 active on game day.

    Games were only on Sunday and Monday night.
    Seasons were 14 games.

    Fast forward to today…

    We’re now on a 17 games schedule.
    Games are now on Sunday, Monday and Thursdays…not to mention overseas games requiring anywhere between 8-12 hours in the air.

    All of that takes a toll on the human body.

    If the league truly cares about its players, they would expand rosters AND eliminate Thursday night games…with thanksgiving being the only exception
     
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  7. Fishhead

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    I thought that one of the things the players wanted when they agreed to expand the season was to expand the rosters.
     
  8. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Well if they did, I’ve seen no evidence of it. Imagine if instead of 48 players dressed and on the sideline, there were 60.

    There would less pressure to put a potentially injured player back Tim to the game when he had more than enough backup players and with that expanded roster, more of those players would get first team snaps during practice.

    No, the league cares more about revenue than the players and anyone who tries to convince you otherwise is just being disingenuous.
     
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  9. Phin McCool

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    Celebrity talking head talks **** - shock!
     
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  10. KeyFin

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    You guys are so angry over this stuff and honestly, none of it matters. Loving the Fins isn't about arguing over how good/bad a player is or what the media says- it's about loving our football team and rooting them on.

    I've always loved posting here and I really value the many friendships I've made over the years, but I find myself logging in and posting less and less. Our team is 3-1, leading the division, and poised for a great year. Why is everyone still fighting over stuff that doesn't matter?

    Please folks, let these petty arguments go. I'm not judging any of you, I'd just love to have my forum family back without all this senseless drama.
     
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  11. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    You would think that they would have to expand the rosters when (not if) they go to an 18 game schedule, which is what the league wanted in the first place. The jump in revenue would more than cover a few more player’s salaries, especially since you wouldn’t be adding superstars to the 53 man roster at that point.
     
  12. TheHighExhaulted

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    Vegas still has Miami with the fourth best odds to win the AFC. I think this bodes well for Tua's future. Vegas usually knows what's going on.
     
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  13. Finatik

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    While I generally agree with you, losing a top level starter and replacing them with their back up there is a drop in talent in most cases. At the very least stop making them have DNP designations for what is it 3 or 5 players on the active roster.
     
  14. Two Tacos

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    Dolphins schedule is nice from now until the last few games. Going 3-1, beating Buffalo and Baltimore, to start was so very important. I want Tua to get healthy and Teddy to play so lights out that we have a controversy when the current highest rated passer in the league is ready. We can have nice things. I believe!
     
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  15. brandon27

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    Interestingly enough... another Thursday night game has just passed. It was awful in every way. Another player suffered a nasty looking concussion. Sure that could have happened no matter when the game was played but the first point is still accurate... Thursday Night games are awful for player safety, and entertainment value. Just end this experiment or find a way to make it better. Only have teams playing off a bye week or something so they're more rested and have more prep time. It's just awful football to watch more often than not on Thursdays.
     
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  16. Two Tacos

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    Cuchulainn found and posted this in the club. It really shows how throwing lefty just makes things look odd.

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  17. resnor

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    I refused to watch.
     
  18. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    So did Russell Wilson.
     
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  19. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    And by the end, so did the Broncos fans
     
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  20. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    I only learned an hour ago the broncos lost in OT in a boring game.
     
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  21. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    You missed absolutely nothing, lol. I’m still not sure why I stayed up until the end.
     
  22. Irishman

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    If they were going to put him on injured reserve, he'd be there by now.
     
  23. Irishman

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    And I find it disturbing that people here think they can see he was concussed,
    What I saw was a person with a problem with something like a pinched nerve in his spinal column.

    I had that kind of problem where my disc (L4 or 5) had herniated and was pressing on my spinal cord. My body tried to adjust automatically to reduce the problem. When I stood up, my lower back shifted my torso horizontally by 4" to relieve that pressure on my spinal cord. Unfortunately, after a few hours of that my back muscles would cramp bringing an even worse pain, or just spasm allowing my herniated disk to press against my spinal cord introducing a sudden sharp pain and causing me to immediately lose the use of my left leg. When those kinds of pain hit, I invariably clutched my fists. Eventually I was just dragging my leg to avoid using it and causing myself a lot of pain.

    When the doctors got some pictures of what was going on inside my spine, a neurologist pointed out that I was not only shifting my body 4" horizontally, but that my spinal cord was pushed against the inside of my spine for a length of 4". He felt it was due to a fatty tumor. After another round of spinal injections with dye and CT scans, it was determined that I had a severely herniated disk. During my ensuing back surgery, the doctors found that my disk had herniated so much it had broken a piece of the disc off against my spinal cord.

    During recovery my doctor reported all this to me. He actually had to root around inside me to find some of those broken pieces of disk. I recovered the use of my leg and could stand up without having my upper body 4" out of alignment and the pain was going away. I had surface numbness of my lower left leg, and I could no longer flex my left-most small toes voluntarily.

    My doctor said the pain would go away in 3 months and I might recover the voluntary use of my little toes. He said even if the recovery was incomplete, I was lucky to escape with the use of my leg after all the preoperative damage that my spinal cord had gone thru. Three months later, almost to the day, over a 3-day period all my remaining pain faded away and some reduction of numbness occurred in my lower left leg. The final diagnosis was that I had sustained a severely bruised spinal cord from the herniated disc.

    Over the years I have gotten some limited degree of voluntary control of my two little toes, but I can only flex them 1/2 as much as I can on the small toes on my right foot.

    It was hard for me to believe that a herniated disc would get big enough to press on my spinal cord, much less with enough force to break a piece off. I was even more surprised that my spinal cord was only bruised and not severed. The only explanation I can come up with was that there was enough "up & down" motion of my spinal cord against the herniated disk that it pushed down (or up) enough to break a portion of that herniated disc off.

    In any case, I am eternally grateful for my doctor's ability to address and correct the situation which was crimpling me and cause a lot of pain for a long time. I realize just how lucky I was to escape being crippled for life.
     
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  24. resnor

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    Man, what a journey! Glad you've come through it.

    I agree, my issue with Thursday night was that I've never seen a concussion do that. They quickly reported it was a head AND neck injury, but we've never heard ANYTHING other than "concussion." That is disturbing to me.
     
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  25. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    It’s October. Wife and I wanted to watch a benign spooky show…so we started binge watching Stranger Things.

    I believe that was more fulfilling and entertaining than the game. I heard it was HORRIBLE!!
     
  26. OwesOwn614

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  27. Fishhead

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    You made the right choice - love Stranger Things!
     
  28. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    Not sure I get the reference here - it’s mostly the talking heads on ESPN and other sports networks that are criticizing Miami.
     
  29. StaleTacos

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    Barry creating strawman. It wasn't that protocols were broken, it was that the protocols weren't sufficient.
     
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  30. StaleTacos

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    Makes zero sense. So they didn't examine his back but were sure the back caused him to get dizzy and stumble? People need to be fired.

     
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  31. OwesOwn614

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  32. OwesOwn614

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    The whole discussion is full of strawmen. Even if he didn't return on Sunday, he would have been injured on Thursday. He was examined three times in four days and neither his back nor his head were determined to be injured enough to keep him out of the game. We've now moved beyond them finding fault on Thursday back to finding a reason why he shouldn't have returned against the Bills. We've moved beyond the concussion to finding other reasons why the team should be ashamed of itself.

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  33. OwesOwn614

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  34. StaleTacos

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    But that doesn't actually determine if he had a concussion. You can pass concussion protocol and still have a concussion. This has happened more times than I'd like to count in the NFL.
     
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  35. OwesOwn614

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    I'll ask a question of you: What should determine whether a player is eligible to return to the field?
     
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  36. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Well according to the NFL, he shouldn't have been allowed back on the field.

    Like don't you think the below tweet is important?

     
  37. Irishman

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    RAY WAS RIGHT!!!
     
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  38. Vinny Fins

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    It says it right in the tweet you quoted that his back was treated… BEFORE THR CONCUSSION TEST. So they knew of the back injury. Why would a neurologist try and treat the back injury? Thats not his purview
     
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  39. OwesOwn614

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    I asked you when you thought he should have been allowed to return. Guess you don't have an answer.
     
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  40. OwesOwn614

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    And it wasn't in his protocol. He probably consulted the team doctor and was told that Tua was checked and treated in the tent, so since he showed no signs of a concussion, a back injury was a likely reason for the way he acted.
     
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