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Tua is not the Problem

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  1. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    Pay him to come here.
     
  2. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Nothing because you don't have any picks.
     
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  3. cbrad

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    No way. Wrong type of QB. You need a QB that leads a top offense. Baltimore has an average offense. And he's not that good a passer.
     
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  4. hitman8

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    I agree, I don't like Jackson. Either way Grier already leveraged the future and went all in on Tua and this season. If we crash and burn with Tua we are in rebuilding mode again and have low probability of landing a franchise QB any time soon.
     
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  5. StaleTacos

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  6. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    That Chubb trade was crazy dumb.
     
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  7. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    Hes had two bad games and the knives are out. Every qb has bad games. Oh well
     
  8. Alan in England

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    It is now confirmed-Tua IS the problem. Let the search begin for the next QB
     
  9. Springveldt

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    In the end Mike Vick got figured out, I'd be staying well clear of QB's who are better runners than passers.

    Dolphins forums/boards are going to be insufferable this week with all the Tua doubters rejoicing that we lost and he sucked again. Makes being a fan of this team hard at times.

    I wonder if other fan bases are so split on players (not just Tua but Tannehill before him etc) that they actually have "fans" happy when the team loses just so they can post "see I was right".

    Tua was terrible last night again, really, really bad yet he's had more elite games than bad games this year. The play calling last night left a lot to be desired, the Chargers took away the middle of the field around 15 yards and McDaniel just kept calling plays to pass into there all night long like some kid playing Madden. Why didn't we start throwing shallow crossing routes? Why did we continually send Mostert into a pile of bodies instead of trying to stretch them? Why didn't we throw more screens?

    Also I'm officially on the Fire Josh Boyer bandwagon. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt with the injuries but when you continually call Cover 0 on 3rd down against a team that can only throw to the flat your level on competence for the job has to brought into question. That 3rd and Goal call where he dropped I think it was 7 or maybe 8 guys into the endzone was a firable offence there and then. That basically took away a shot of the win on the last drive.
     
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  10. Springveldt

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    No it's not. How do we replace him? Who do we replace him with?

    Yes he's had 2 terrible games but let's see how the rest of the season goes. There's got to be something else going on rather than "he just sucks" as this isn't the same QB we have seen this season.
     
  11. Phin McCool

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    ^^^ This. In a nutshell!^^^
     
  12. canesz06

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    Can we put the Tua vs Herbert argument to bed now? Herbert is a much better qb. I don't care what your stats say, after last night, your eyes should be telling you all you need to know. If we had Herbert, we'd be a much better team
     
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  13. Destroyer

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    Would three terrible games in a row do it? Because that what it's goin to be at the end of Saturday night.
     
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  14. TheHighExhaulted

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    Welcome back.

    If we had Austin Ekeler we would be a much better team.
     
  15. canesz06

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    I agree. Too bad I'm talking about qbs though and one that we could have had but passed him up for what we have now.
     
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  16. dolphin25

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    wow, how about now?
     
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  17. Berezo

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    There is an absolute zero shot Tua has a good game Saturday night against the bills. His arm can’t survive that weather. We also can’t run the ball. It’s going to be an all-time beat down.
     
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  18. dolphin25

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    While some of that is true, you can't magically get a strong arm. I don't want to see any more games like this from Tua.
     
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  19. dolphin25

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    has it really been proven false?
     
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  20. dolphin25

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    His arm is not good enough. I get it you are a fan. I want him to be great, but wanting does not make it happen.
     
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  21. StaleTacos

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    Tua's arm is strong compared to whom? I think it looks acceptable when his feet are set and he knows where he's going.

    Tua chooses his target before the snap. There were so many times last night with wide open guys in the background and he threw to Hill in double coverage. Everything needs to go right for Tua. He doesn't create on his own. He doesn't have the tools for it.
     
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  22. dolphin25

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    I agree, not sure he is reading coverages anymore. Just seems to try to go to first read. Something is whacked for sure.
     
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  23. StaleTacos

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  24. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Yea, I still would. It’s not like this is baseball and he’s all by himself at the plate and individually isn’t hitting the balls pitched to him. It’s a team sport and as I stated before, some of the fault for this loss falls on McDaniel and his lack of adjustments.

    You don’t give up on someone who’s shown elite level play after a few bad games. If that was the case, I could point out many seasons some “bum” named Marino should have been shipped away. :wink2:
     
  25. mlb1399

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    I think LAC did a great job of harassing our receivers throwing off the timing of our passing game. Tua also hasn’t looked comfortable the last 2 games. It’s been such a drastic change, it’s hard to figure out if his confidence has been shaken, if this is a reversion to the mean or something else.

    It also doesn’t help that our defense isn’t good. I know our secondary is depleted but we’ve invested way too many resources to have a bottom 10 defense.
     
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  26. Silverphin

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    Yes it has. I understand you're a Tua hater, but ignoring all the times he's shown off his arm doesn't mean the evidence is not there.
     
  27. TheHighExhaulted

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    Anyone seen Jevon Holland this year? The next play he makes will be his first.
     
  28. resnor

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    He does not have a strong arm, by NFL standards.
     
  29. Silverphin

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    Then going by that logic, neither did Steve Young.
     
  30. StaleTacos

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    What times has he shown off his arm? Throwing long loopy balls isn't evidence of arm strength. Every QB in the NFL can do this.Throwing ropes off-platform is.
     
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  31. Silverphin

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    Ravens game. Bills game. Detroit....
     
  32. StaleTacos

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    Can you show me the play(s) you are referring to?
     
  33. hitman8

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    Yes, Young had a comparatively weak arm, but he made it work, although I think Tua's arm could even be weaker than Young's. Young was also helped by playing with multiple hall of famers on an all time great team. Young was really not the type of QB who could carry a team either.
     
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  34. Silverphin

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    Choose one.



     
  35. TheHighExhaulted

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    The TD pass to Cracraft in the Ravens game was an absolute rope in between three defenders.

    Edit: against the Bills.

    So, now it's "throwing ropes off platform" now.
     
  36. Silverphin

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    And this is where I stop taking you seriously.
     
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  37. resnor

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    I suppose Pennington and Fiedler had strong arms, also?

    Tua is not Steve Young.
     
  38. Silverphin

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    Pennington and Feidler is not on Tua's level in regards to arm strength.
     
  39. resnor

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    It is if you guys are going to continuously argue that he doesn't have a weak arm, because he's thrown a ball 50 yards in the air.

    You have noticed the air he has to put under the balls he throws deep, correct? It's like you guys haven't watched a guy like Allen or Herbert throw. Ever.

    And yes, I agree, a strong arm does not mean a QB is good.
     
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  40. StaleTacos

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    YOU choose one. That's what I'm asking from you. What throw alleviates concerns regarding his lack of arm strength?
     
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