Tua is not the Problem

I've not argued that Teddy would put up "astronomical" numbers.

I thought Skylar functioned well in the offense that game he played, though.

But my point was, there is nothing contradictory in people's thoughts on Tua and how much he's contributing to the offense.

 

Tua's personal trainer.

 

You think Skylar performed better than Teddy ?

How much do you think Tua contributed? Just curious.

 

Is this the same guy who exposed Flores testing Tua for PEDs four times last season?

 

I just want Teddy to have a full week of practice with all the snaps.

 

A lot of people have missed that Teddy has yet to play with a week of game planning with him as the starter. That should really help.

 

This guy obviously didn't examine Tua, but at least it's a doctor that understands this stuff.

 

I gave him credit and he was playing well and trust me I didn't want to draft him.I thought it was a huge mistake and now here we are.
You can't have a bad stretch like this in December when it's crunch time and expect people to sing your praises.I don't care what city u play for u are going to get bashed.He was the only one that could shut up the noise but he didn't.
And u got one idiot on this site accusing people of wishing him to get hurt.
****ing Moron!We all want to win!

 

If that is eluding to us giving him a contract extension; that's a big mistake on our part IMO. You can't make that decision as a team until you know or at least have a better idea of his long term health implications after this year.

At the very least don't we have a 5th year option we can pick up on him? That's about all I'd be doing right now. I can't fathom giving him a long term deal at this point with everything that has gone on.

 

That's not accurate at all. I'm one of those that watch a lot of YouTube post game videos breaking down the game film and if you go and watch any of them, you'll OFTEN see Tua throwing the ball...the ball OUT OF HIS HAND before receivers are making the breaks in their routes.

That's been a constant in the analysis of Tua and the praise he has received...his anticipation. He throws the ball to where the receiver is going to break. Granted, ALL quarterbacks do this to some degree, but it's often AFTER the receiver has made his break and demonstrated his is, or is going to be open that other quarterbacks let the ball go. Tua has been able to consistently (albiet not during our losing streak except Buffalo and 1st half v GB) anticipate where the ball needs to go well before the receivers are open.

It's just a fact.

 

Of course they are going to investigate us again. Yet it's their spotter that F'd up and missed sending him off for evaluation. Instead they'll hide behind their earlier comments this week of "there were no visible signs he was dealing with symptoms". Come on guys; the player with a history of concussions this year went down and his head smacked and bounced off the damn turf. That's reason enough to have any player evaluated if you're serious about player safety/concussions and especially for a guy like Tua with a history of concussion issues this year.

I just want to know; where's the investigation on NE? They sure were quite content to let Devante PArker line up for another play even though he could barely stand on his own two feet FFS. Come on NFL... drop the act already, drop the favoritism too while you're at it. Clowns. This league becomes more and more of a joke each season.

 

There are people here that want him to fail so they can be right. Do those people want him to get hurt? Probably not. Do those people want him to retire because they are concerned for his health? Also probably not.

 

Well I will speak for myself I didn't want him.I thought he was small fragile with a weak arm Mid season I was happy as hell thinking we have a shot at AFC championship and I was wrong about him..Now I am thinking I was right the first time.This dude even if he comes back will be out of the league in 1 or 2 years
This team will be back to square one.Shoukd have drafted Herbert!
Goodbye Grier!

 

If you're concerned about players' health, you really shouldn't be watching football in the first place. Yes, it's all a bunch of bologna for the people and the media saying "they're concerned about his health", especially on ESPN who dedicate segments to people getting "jacked up".

 

With this I definitely agree with u.They don't give a ****.
This investigation is dog and pony bull**** so they don't look bad.Exactly why Bridgewater got pulled after 1 play from Jets game when he zero signs of a concussion.Did u see that we pulled Teddy because we care
NFL can **** off!

 

He shook his head as he got up after hitting the turf. That's all it takes to get yanked.

 

Trust me any other team he wasn't coming out.
That's was all to save face because of the Tua concussion

 

Brandon Staley after the Derwin James hit last week:

"Yeah, he's in concussion protocol but he's having a hell of a time in that locker room right now!'

It's all a big joke to everyone else.

 

Can’t lose his meal ticket. He’ll be back working the cash register at LA Fitness without Tua.

 

I thought he played very well having gotten zero reps with the first team having been third string. I'll have to look, butt didn't they put up 20 something points? Teddy only took like one snap and tires was already out for that game.

 

Tua is missing open receivers. It's openly talked about.

 

Our boy Ckparrot believes McDaniel could be in danger of being fired if he doesn’t win the next two games. He pointed out on his podcast that Ross has a history of firing coaches who go on losing streaks.

He said he knows for a fact Ross will not tolerate a five game losing streak.

 

It would be pretty incredible if Grier can pass the blame to another head coach.

 

I don't believe that at all. Gase wasn't fired after a 5-game losing streak in 2017. Also, Ross has let every HC he's hired (except interim HC) stay at minimum 3 years. It would be totally out of character for Ross to fire McDaniel after one year.

And I don't for one moment believe Ckparrot or any other outsider knows "for a fact" (if that's really a quote) McD is getting fired if he loses the next game (only one more is needed for a 5-game losing streak). That's his opinion maybe, not "a fact".

 

Can you post the source to this? I have looked on his Twitter account and have found nothing remotely close to this.

You usually just come on here and post "Colin Cowherd said this" "Jim Mandich said this" "Joe Rose said this" "Mike Florio said this" without ever really providing any context or link to a story.

 

3 yards per carry podcast. “The pressure on McDaniel to win is much larger than people think…and this is an informed opinion. The pressure on him is immense.”

 

Making big mistakes is Grier's specialty. So yeah, Grier is stupid enough to give Tua an extension coming off 3 injury plagued seasons.

 

Tua should take up BJJ in the off season and his instructor should drill him on nothing but break falls.

 

Doesn't matter what the trainer says.
He keeps getting concussiona he will be done.
Needs to learn how to throw the Damm ball away.
He thinks he is Mahomes or Allen by extending plays but he can't do it.****ed are whole season up with this dumb *** play

 

Totally agree. I still think Tua can be the guy but there is no way I’d give him a long term deal right now. You pick up his 5th year option and see what happens next season.

 

He really needs to learn how to fall properly. The crazy thing about Tua's injuries are they weren't even orthopedic.

Forget the concussion aspect. Even if he escapes those in the future, he hasn't proven his body can hold up over a full season in terms of orthpedic and muscle issues. You know how many guys play through that and it impacts their play? Tua has had the luxury of taking lots of time off coupled with mostly easy opponents. His numbers are very inflated from reality of a full season.

 

A long term deal is certainly not on the table. His performance overall has been enough to possibly warrant it, but missing multiple games each year doesn't.

We keep Tua and either Skylar develops into a better backup option or possibly we sign a Baker or Jimmy G if the market allows and see what happens in camp.

 

Tannehill was a WR in college. Would it be possible to convert Tyreek Hill to QB as well?

https://www.nfl.com/videos/tyreek-hill-shows-qb-skills-with-net-toss-at-chiefs-training-camp

 

With the "heat" off Miami, I think we see Tua next week assuming we don't clinch tomorrow.

 

Either next week if we don't clinch tomorrow, or in the playoffs if we do. This is very good. We need to see how Tua ends the season. As bad as he was in 3 out of the last 4, if he plays well in the playoffs that changes the narrative quite a bit. Of course his fragility is here to stay, which is a major issue. But I'd love to see him demonstrate he can play well when it counts.

 

Jimmy G should probably end up with a starter job or at least a starter in front of a young QB. Can't see him coming to back up Tua or enter a competition.

 

I'd be very interested in a long look at Derek Carr. A mostly good, but not great QB, but combine him with the weapons we have? With Tua the future is VERY uncertain. Imagine if he gets two more concussions next season; his career is over. IF it was happening only during blatant, penalty worthy defensive plays? That's one thing, but his last concussion happened during what most of us would consider to be a routine NFL tackle.

 

Yeah, let's put Stephen Ross at wide receiver. Jason Sanders at linebacker. Can Armstead play running back?