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Dolphins @ Bills - Wildcard Round (01/15/‘23)

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  1. Pennington's Limp Arm

    Pennington's Limp Arm Well-Known Member

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    Playoffs Are Finally Here.
    First Dolphins playoff game since 2017!

    Sunday January 15th @ 1 PM CBS

    Buffalo weather forecast;
    34 degrees
    Sunny/clear
    Light winds between 6-11 MPH
    Looks as good as you could possibly hope for in mid January.

    Early Sportbook Lines;
    Buffalo -11 (-800 mny line)
    Miami +11 (+550 mny line)
    Over/Under 43.5

    Head to Head this season;
    32-29 Bills win @Buffalo (week 15)
    21-19 Miami win @miami (week 3)

    Miami Quarterback Updates;
    Tua will be officially listed as questionable, but still not cleared to participate in any team activities. Tyreek is the only one I’ve seen speculate Tua might play:



    Bridgewater will be listed as questionable, But Seems he has a very realistic chance to play based on McDaniel comments; (00:45 second mark of clip)


    New Injuries from Week 18;
    Shell (ankle and knee)
    Mostert (Thumb)
    Eichenberg (arm)

    Mostert has found another gear the last 2 games and could be a big loss given we need to lean on the run game with a potential backup QB.

    Have to assume 3 starting OL will be very questionable for this game. Armstead, Shell and Eichenberg.

    They earned a ticket to the dance… Let’s see if they can truly shock the World.
    Fins Up!
     
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  2. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Dolphins 23 to 21. Sanders hits 3 FG's
     
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  3. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    With Tua and Armstead? An interesting game, where Miami has an outside chance of pulling the upset. Without both of them, it's an ugly loss in the 35-13 range.
     
  4. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    Tua/Armstead- Buf 31 Mia 20
    No Tua- Buf 34 Mia 10
     
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  5. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Dolphins are undefeated when Skylar starts and finishes the game!!
     
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  6. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like Tua could possibly be in Phase III of the protocol.
     
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  7. cbrad

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    Tua absolutely needs to start this game. If he's not available when it matters most, especially 3 weeks after a concussion, then it really strengthens the argument he's too unreliable due to fragility.
     
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  8. Alan in England

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    Buffalo 35-7 (irrespective of who plays QB)
     
  9. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    If I start, it might only be 35-3 and that's if Sanders is having a good day. Just saying....
     
  10. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    It's a HUGE concern going into next season, and if he does play in the Buffalo playoff game and gets another concussion? Oh, boy....
     
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  11. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    I'm not sure I agree that it strengthens an argument that he's fragile, but it would strengthen the argument that if he isn't healthy enough after 3 weeks recovery then he has likely suffered very serious head injuries this season and should probably hang up the cleats.
     
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  12. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Or stage 2, or stage 1.

    Wonder if McDaniel actually provides some information today more than his standard.
     
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  13. cbrad

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    Of course it would strengthen the argument he's unreliable due to fragility. What else would it be? It's either his 2nd or 3rd concussion, missing time when it matters most. A less fragile QB either wouldn't have suffered those concussions, or would recover faster.
     
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  14. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    Any word on Armstead? He’s tier 2 priority to protect whoever starts at QB
     
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  15. Pennington's Limp Arm

    Pennington's Limp Arm Well-Known Member

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    He has been listed with 4 injuries on the last couple injury reports. (Toe, Pec, Hip, Knee)

    Who even knows what exactly is keeping him out? Pectoral was thought to be serious, but he has comeback and played since missing games earlier due to the pec. Now he is out again.

    Might aswell just list him as; “Way to Late in the season for Terron Armstead to be available.”

    Even still we desperately need him, no matter how busted he is at this point .
     
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  16. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. I think you won't know anything about Armstead. Even when he plays, he never practices. So he'll probably be another gametime decision.
     
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  17. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Hey, that's the stat of the week (if it's true, LOL)! I thought he did prep for one week early on and we lost.
     
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  18. brandon27

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    I don't know if his availability this weekend should factor in at all. I think we all already know he's unreliable due to injury concerns at this point. 3 concussions in a year span, one was really horrific to see. Didn't he miss a game last year for one as well? The thing with concussions is one makes you more vulnerable for the next. We're at 2 (technically 3) we officially know about from this year already. I think you absolutely have to factor that in to long term decision making with Tua regardless of his status for this weeks game. I get your point though; but I'm just taking it further here because IMO we've already got enough reason to be concerned.
     
  19. Striking

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    This team is banged up but I have faith. They will compete and hopefully keep it close waiting for that Allen interception.
     
  20. cbrad

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    I agree we have enough reason to be concerned regardless of whether he's available this weekend, but the difference in perception and effect on this team of him being available this weekend vs. not being available is massive. This is the playoffs. If you as an NFL player are willing to play in a violent game where concussions are part of it, then man up and help the team win!

    If on the other hand you're not into that kind of stuff, then please quit so we don't have to keep hoping for everything to be just right for you to contribute. That's the way I look at it. So assuming the medical examiner isn't flat out saying Tua can't play, Tua better play.
     
  21. Berezo

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    Don’t think the medical staff is going to clear Tua this week. He’s legit the only shot we have at winning the game too. The more interesting thing will who we replace Boyer with and what QB is brought in to compete/be reliable when Tua inevitably gets hurt again.
     
  22. OwesOwn614

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    And the hits keep on coming...
     
  23. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    I truly hope they don't. Players want to play. Listen to Chris Nowinski. The medical staff needs to protect players from themselves. You are going to bring a player back who hasn't played, practiced, or done any football stuff for 2-3 weeks into his 1st playoff game ever in Buffalo against the 2nd best defense in the sport? Against Matt Milano who has a history of killing guys including Tua. Oh, and you might be missing your 2 starting OTs on a line that's already shi*. This is someone who sustained a concussion and couldn't remember things from the previous day. Someone who spoke up about his issues ONLY AFTER being told to. Honestly this is so damn CRINGE. Please don't make this man play and risk getting 4 concussions in 112 days. His life is in the balance.
     
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  24. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Another positive sign. Not saying he's close but, he's obviously been working out behind the scenes.
     
  25. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Stop being dramatic. You don't give a shti. lol
     
  26. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    You are a bad person, and a troll.
     
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  27. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    Do we even trust the Offensive line to give Tua enough time at this point? I don't know...I know Thompson was under duress for the majority of the game yesterday, but there were moments where the line did give him plenty of time to get something done. He just couldn't find anyone and that is partly due to how great the Jets secondary is.
    Regardless of who the quarterback is on Sunday, we're going to have to establish the run game. We seem to be able to do that in games, but then we can't complete a pass once our run game gets us into 3rd and manageable. I've noticed a trend where we get to a 3rd and 3 for example and one of our guys jumps offsides. Stupid penalties have killed a good majority of our drives this year I've noticed. In order to even have a chance in Buffalo, we have to establish the run game, and we have to play mistake free football, and we have to get our defense off the field when we get them in a 3rd and long (which does happen). This game will be all about momentum. I don't expect us to win this even with a healthy Tua and Armstead (which we don't have). I'm going to temper my expectations with this one. We literally backed our way into the playoffs, we allowed McDaniels to keep his job and most likely Sanders. That is all. I think our season ends soon, but at least we made the tournament.
     
  28. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Thompson had time yesterday. He was just hesitant to throw the ball.
     
  29. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Ok, keep calling him "boy".
     
  30. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    I definitely noticed that. He doesn't anticipate the way Tua does. Tua basically throws it to where his WR's are going to end up whereas Thompson was waiting for them to be completely open. Huge difference between the two of them. I thought the offensive line did an adequate job. Thompson was getting pressured, but I think he did hold the ball for a long time on a lot of plays.
     
  31. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    With as relatively well as we ran the ball yesterday (30 total carries averaging 5 yards per carry), I'm surprised Thomspon didn't go downfield on play action for the penguin and cheetah. But as you said, he doesn't anticipate as Tua does.

    That or he was so afraid of making a mistake that he elected the shorter passes. To his credit, Skylar did play mistake free yesterday. That's always a plus...no turnovers that is.
     
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  32. Pennington's Limp Arm

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    I don’t think Tua will be cleared.

    I think it will be either Bridgewater or Glennon.

    Zero chance they trot Thompson back out in the playoffs.
    He has thrown 101 attempts this season and his Rating is at 62. That is a whopping 10 points below the league Worst rating of 72 (Zach Wilson).

    His longest completion and best gain is for 32 yards. And that came on a play where he was hit and accidentally completed a pass to Geisiki that was intended for another reciever.

    If you remove that Geisiki accident from last weeks game, he averaged 3.9 Yards Per Attempt. Yes you read that correctly… Below 4.

    And that doesn’t factor in all the delay of games and the fact he seemed mostly afraid to throw the ball, despite guys running free.

    Any ball he threw that travelled more than 15 yards looked like a quacking duck.

    The RB’s and skilled players ran the ball Very Well for 160 yards and 5.5 yards per rush against the Jets (Basically as good as we will ever run the ball!) No fumbles or field goal misses either. And yet we only scored a pathetic 9 points.

    Now Buffalo has more tape on him too. It would only get worse if he is thrown out there again…

    And for the ‘Skylar is mobile and athletic’ crowd.
    He has rushed 14 times for 21 total yards (1.5 yards per carry). Also seems afraid of contact.
     
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  33. Sceeto

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    Uhh………:drink:
     
  34. Alan in England

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    the down side of reaching the play offs is that it means another game with the woeful Boyer as DC.
     
  35. KeyFin

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    Dude, he's a rookie in his 2nd NFL start. He's also our 3rd string QB so he's had almost zero practice reps this year. The kid deserves some slack, you can't compare his stats to the average starter and say they're the same thing.
     
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  36. dolphin25

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    OL coach commented on that too, saying him missing practices doesn't help the line. Not a direct quote
     
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  37. dolphin25

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    He got knocked out of the game if not mistaken.
     
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  38. dolphin25

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    On the duck his arm was hit as he threw.

    His throw to Hill for a first down was off balance and thrown on a line.
     
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  39. Striking

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    As long as the line can keep creating lanes we will compete vs Buffalo. We traded for Wilson for a reason and Ahmed will need to contribute as well.
     
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  40. dolphin25

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    It seems as if Wilson is not hitting the holes like he did when he first got here. A couple times with him it seemed there were better places to run the ball.
     
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