Tua is not the Problem

I think he hurt his little thumb.

This team is one giant soft player. Ever watch Blue Mountain State? Almost the entire Dolphins team is the backup QB on that show.

 

Yeah it's only one year, but it's very impressive nonetheless. It's also after 400 attempts so it's not like it's small sample size. Whether he can keep it up over multiple years is the big question. We don't know, but you got to start somewhere. Oh.. and it looks like he's going to end up #1 based on current games.

As far as how he'd play with Waddle alone, I don't think he'd do that well. I think he needs 2 such WRs: fast + good route running. Regardless, story isn't over with Tua. If he plays well against Buffalo in the playoffs, then he might be a keeper. We'll see.

 

What was everyone saying when Herbert was struggling in the middle of the season?

"Oh, he's missing his two Pro Bowl receivers."

 

A whole lot of inflated numbers facing mostly bad teams. His numbers were starting to normalize, and they would have if he faced an additional two top 5 defenses. It's an easy gig when you don't have to play through injuries, the bumps and bruises of a season, or play the difficult teams. Those numbers are hollow, hence why those actually in NFL didn't vote him into the Pro Bowl. Tua is completely finished for this season, and his career will be in jeopardy moving forward. Ross is going to be 100% all-in on Brady, and Brady is going to want to be closer to his kids. A match that makes too much sense.

 

Should have traded for Watson though

 

I dunno, I don't listen to what people say about Hebert. But thanks for the red herring.

 

Throwing with broken, cracked ribs, makes a difference.

 

Mike White sucks. He will be lucky to be on a practice squad somewhere next year.

 

I think there was a ton of progress this year. Look at the injuries we have had to overcome yet still ended up with a winning record and in the playoffs. Tua has ended the season ranked #1 in passer rating and ypa. People would have said you were nuts if you predicated that at the start of the year.

We just need next season to be a fluke year where all the guys who usually get injured don't and we will be a real threat. This year has been a fluke in that all the injuries kept happening at the same positions.

 

Teddy wishes he was Alex Moran.

 

If you have ever been correct on anything I would be concerned.

 

Yes sir

 

And if you weren't such a philistine I'd be concerned as well.

 

You are correct, I'm not a big fan of the arts. Have you looked in the mirror lately?

 

I think I’m correct in saying this, Tua ends up as the leading QB by passer rating in the NFL, plus a bunch of other efficiency categories such as Y/A, nY/A.

 

And?

 

That's actually VERY telling of just how great Tua played this season. The man missed most of the Cincinnati game and 4 other games, had a 3 game losing streak as a starter and was STILL better than any of the other quarterbacks in the league!

I think the question I would be asking isn't whether or not Tua should ever play again. The question I would be asking is what in the hell do we as a team have to do to keep this man upright and untouched! We've been complaining about the offensive line for 2 decades. Perhaps our ire and focus should be there instead!

 

Oh c'mon. Tua's numbers were mostly inflated numbers as a result of playing with hill and waddle in a clever scheme designed for him and playing against some of the worst defenses in the league. He padded his stats during the very weak part of our schedule. He was hurt and did not play or played poorly when we had to face the better defenses in the biggest games of the season.

The only good game he had against a top defense was the second game against buffalo which we lost. And once defenses figured out the scheme he could not adapt.

Here we are at the end of season three and we still cannot depend on tua to be our franchise QB.

Yes we also need to improve the oline, but the reason Tua sufferd 3 concussions and missed games this season was not the oline. The hits that took him out were pretty standard hits that an NFL qb should be able to take. He is just physically soft and injury prone, and cannot be depended on.

 

It's interesting.. there are many so-so QBs that led the league in passer rating for one season, but basically everyone who did it 2 or more times is a historically good QB. In the SB era:

Bart Starr (3 times in the SB era, 2 times before that)
Roger Staubach (4 times)
Ken Anderson (4 times)
Joe Montana (2 times)
Steve Young (6 times)
Peyton Manning (3 times)
Kurt Warner (2 times)
Tom Brady (2 times)
Aaron Rodgers (4 times)
Drew Brees (2 times)

So if somehow Tua can do this one more season, historically it's extremely likely he'll end up one of the best QBs in history.

 

Yeah, but these guys probably didn't have any good receivers to throw to.

 

Ross watching Skylar Thompson start a playoff game. Tua's career in Miami is over. He'll be all-in on Brady, and if not Brady, someone else.

 

Yea we can't be losing our QB 3-5 games every year no matter how much talent we have.Josh Allen is in this division we need someone reliable.

 

I mean, the concern is his inability to stay on the field.

 

You typed all of that with a straight face, didn’t you? I worked late and just got home. I’m too tired to argue.

 

https://www.audacy.com/national/sports/mike-florio-good-chance-tua-isnt-in-nfl-next-season

 

Yup

 

That's my only problem with Tua as of right now. We can't do this injury crap every single year. Your Quarterback has got to be the LAST thing you lose. He's not durable...At all.

 

Unfortunately, he struggled staying healthy in college too. I would have had no issues taking him in the 2nd round but I’ll ever understand why Grier took a small, injury prone QB at #5.

 

EXACTLY my stance all along. I've said from the beginning, he was Ted Ginn all over again.

 

Yea and if the orthopedic stuff wasn't enough now u have the concussions to worry about.

 

Extremely low Wonderlic scores. Injury history, and coming off a major injury. Body size. Raw tools. There were a number of red flags ignored.

Tua's marketing team out of college should get a Pulitzer.

 

Grier is an idiot. He continuosly ignores red flags. Aside from Tua, Austin Jackson was also coming off a bone marrowe transplant and was regularly manhandled in college, igbinoghene had only two years of experience playing corner and had very little college production or good tape, yet he picked all of them in the first round, in the same draft, while ignoring other high production prospects with no red flags or major injuries like herbert, justin jefferson, jonathan taylor.

 

Glad to hear he’s coming back!

 

Same, we need to run it back one more season. This year was supposed to be a look at what he could do with quality receivers to throw to. The result was that he led the league in passer rating and had this team poised to win 12 games. I think next year, the goal should be to build off of that and to stay healthy, play smarter, make better decisions.

 

How were we posted to win 12 games?
I'm confused! we did lose 4 in a row with him starting.

 

So your belief is that Tua is able too stay healthy and not miss 3-5 games, for whatever reason? I agree, I think we probably end up rolling with Tua...but I also think that he's such a massive question mark that the Dolphins have to make serious runs at Jimmy G, Rodgers, or Brady (I vomited just writing that)... Although with that smashing they took, maybe Brady will really retire? But if they get a guy like one of them, Tua is done.

 

We need a capable backup and that cannot be disputed
If anything else we know McD is a fantastic QBs coach and Tua excelled under his tutoring
Grier should not be making the decision on who the backup will be, this has to be McD’s call. He built a fantastic relationship with Tua and knows what works for the position