Tua is not the Problem

The biggest reason it makes no sense is the Ravens. He is their entire offense and Miami has no first rounders. So what is supposed to be their plan?

 

Miami has absolutely zero chance at acquiring Jackson. This is the most ludicrous rumor I've ever heard. We have Tua for at least one more year and if he happens to get through the season injury free he'll get a long term contract to stay even longer. The most important issue Miami has is their backup QB. Get Jimmy G in as a backup so we can win with or without Tua.

 

I'm good on that.

 

Well the Ravens have built their offense around a run early and run often QB who often plays sandlot ball and uses a rocket arm to deliver balls after the receiver has gotten open. The Dolphins have built an offense around a pocket passing QB who has to diagnose defenses and deliver accurate timing passes. Chalk and cheese? Oil and water? ​

 

I don't get Lamar Jackson to Miami thing.Everyone on this site is worried about Tua and his injuries including myself.The last 2 years Jackson missed 4 games in 2021 and 5 games in 2022.

 

At least you're consistent with the injury aspects. Jackson would have no idea how to use Hill and Waddle either. He would be completely lost in a complex timing based offense. Some guys think Tua is a one read quarterback, wait until you watch Jackson consistently. Wide receivers couldn't wait to get off that team. Miami would need two elite tight ends because that's all he throws to.

 

He may want to play in Miami, but I doubt Baltimore is going to want to trade him:
A. To a team in the AFC
B. More importantly, to a team without a first round pick this year, and only 5 picks overall. Unless they’re bringing in Carr or Rodgers, how are they spinning that to the fan base?

 

The silly thing is that the only question about Tua is his health. He played balls out when healthy so why would we replace him with another QB with injury concerns? It gets worse when you realize the implication is that the Ravens are a smarter franchise.

Consider: "The Ravens don't want to invest longterm in a QB with injury concerns. They should ship him to Miami where the Dolphins have concerns with Tua's ability to stay healthy".

What?!

 

Let’s just say Lamar Jackson to Miami was a realistic option. Then the Tua or Lamar decision would remind me quite a bit of the Daunte or Drew decision. I think Tua has a better shot to be the Drew Brees in this comparison and Lamar the Daunte Culpepper.

 

No ****ing way I want to give up draft picks for injury prone QB who doesn't fit the system.
This **** is all click bait and will never happen.

 

From a bunch of idiots

 

Exactly.

They rag on Tua, but then they turn around and say Miami should target Lamar Jimmy G?

Nah. Just nah.

 

If Tua us a one read QB at least he’s reading from Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica
Jackson’s reading material is See Spot Run

 

I would not say that is the ONLY question.

It is, however, the most concerning question, and the one that his future depends on the most.

 

Dave Hyde says the Dolphins are privately “seriously worried” about Tua’s health. Jeff Darlington said on ESPN on Friday that the Dolphins getting Lamar Jackson would make them the Super Bowl favorite.

Lots of smoke to these Lamar-to-Miami rumors.

 

Don't see how they make the money work for Lamar or Aaron. Not to mention, the compensation, doesn't make a ton of sense. Maybe Tua goes back in a deal, but how much is that worth? And how's the cap work? I'm sure they'll explore all options before returning home to their fat ugly wife. The Dolphins are stuck with Tua. My guess is they play out next season, waste another year trying to figure out QB, and are back to square 1 next offseason.

 

You could probably be fine with Lamar for year 1 since he needs a contract and you could go heavy signing bonus I assume.

Aaron Rodgers just seems like an overall dumb idea since he already has one foot in retirement

 

No way anything they do offensively makes them a Super Bowl favorite. Jackson’s cost would prohibit them from doing much of anything to improve on the defensive side and Fangio isn’t a miracle worker.

 

Aaron Rodgers has become the biggest headache in the league. He’s not retiring this year because there’s $60 million on the table, plus he doesn’t want to be in the same HOF class as Brady. After 2023, he’s probably done, and good riddance.

 

Pats, probably not. Giants have their guy. Rams would not they like their QB. so down to 13 like I had

 

The only team other than GB I can see Rodgers playing for in 2023 is the Jets. I hope the Jets mortgage their future for him.

 

He might be the Jets’ only option now that Carr signed with the Saints. Kinda surprising, since the Jets have more weapons than the Saints, especially if Kamara is suspended.

 

Mike Lombardi says Lamar Jackson wants to play for the Dolphins…

 

And?

 

Sounds like Ravens are leaning towards the non-exclusive tag, which means the Dolphins could get involved. Would have to put together a contract that Lamar likes, and so big that the Ravens wouldn't match, AND THEN give up 2 1st rounders.

Makes sense if you think he's your franchise guy.

 

What is the argument for them using the non exclusive tag vs exclusive? I don't see how that is the better move regardless of whether how they feel about keeping him vs trading him.

 

The non-exclusive tag is about $13m cheaper, and allows Lamar and the Ravens to see the market.

They can always match the offer he accepts. And if it's too much, they get two 1st rounders.

 

Screw. That

 

Less control over the contract they give him and less control over what they get back if they let him go

Sounds great for Lamar and pretty bad for the Ravens

 

If Tua isn't it next season, what's your plan for QB in the future?

 

Well they already don't have any control on the contract they give him. At least this way, Lamar doesn't feel shortchanged with their offer. Ravens can be assured they are paying market rate - value of 2 1st rounders.

He may not play on a tag at all this year.

 

They have control now because they have leverage which they would be giving away and not all first rounders are equal plus only 2 is selling low.

 

The only alternative option would be to exclusive tag him, but he could just be telling them he won't play on it. Then what? How's your control and leverage?

 

How does that put them in a different spot? He is getting offers with the non exclusive tag because he is too good so in that scenario you are either giving him the massive deal he wants or trading him. If he refused to play on the franchise you continue to negotiate on long term or trade him and if they did trade him they can get full value. Its not like they are ever getting less than 2 first round picks.

Non exclusive is only worth it if they want him but don't think he will get around the kind of money he is currently asking for but desperate teams will open up the bank for him I would bet

 

Exactly. Its that time of year. The agents for everybody and their brother will say they want to play in Miami. The agents use the press to get this info out into the public domain. Miami gets used as a bargaining chip every off season.

 

Not really. What if he negotiates with other teams and gets an offer lower or around what the Ravens are currently offering? Maybe it's only a bit more and Ravens agree to match, and closes this out. It allows the Ravens to frame their offer better.

There might not be a team out there willing to give him Watson money, and 2 1st rounders. What if they can't agree to terms with a trading team? Remember, Lamar would need to agree too because he would be signing a new contract. Then what?

 

Wow, Phillip Rivers contacted the Dolphins after Tua got injured late in the season last year.

 

They should've kicked Bridgewater to the curb as soon as that call was over.