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Wasted 2020 draft picks..

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by hitman8, Mar 1, 2023.

  1. Pauly

    Pauly Season Ticket Holder

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  2. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Need to put that 1st round draft class into perspective. Is Jackson a bust? Absolutely! Is igbinoghene a bust? Absolutely! But when you look at that draft class and who was available for the positions we drafted...

    What if the Dolphins had drafted Issiah Wilson instead of Jackson? Well, Wilson ended up being a bust for the Titans, being a disciplinary problem. The Titans wanted him gone, trading not only Wilson but also a 7th round pick to Miami in exchange for the Dolphins 2021 7th round pick. Wilson was such a bust the Dolphins released him 3 days after the trade!

    What if the Dolphins had drafted Jeff Gladney over Noah Igbinoghene? Well sadly we'll never know how Gladney would have panned out as he was killed in a car accident following the 2021 season.

    The Dolphins even signed CB Damon Arnette to the practice squad following his release from the Raiders following the 2020 season. Sure, you could blame the Dolphins for another swing and miss by signing Arnette, but even after his 2021 release, event he great Andy Reid took a chance on him and signed him. The Chiefs subsequently released him in January 2022 following an arrest for assault with a deadly weapon and drug charges.

    The ONLY lineman who panned out in the draft was Tristian Wirfs who was taken by the Buccaneers but the only way we would have gotten him would have been to pass on Tagovailoa as Wirfs was drafted 13th.

    So as much as we have blasted Jackson and Igbinoghene, there really werent much options available to us for those positions during our picks in the draft. I've said so many times before, the draft is a craps shoot....a spin of the roulette wheel. Sometimes you win, but most times you don't.
     
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  3. Fishhead

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    There were a lot of duds in the second half of that first round - Grier is not the only GM who whiffed. His millstone is the fact that he whiffed twice. That draft would have been saved with one of the top RBs (Taylor, Dobbins or even Swift) in Iggy’s spot. It was a thin draft for OL, so he took a shot with Jackson, but taking Iggy in round 1 was inexcusable.
     
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  4. M1NDCRlME

    M1NDCRlME Fear The Spear

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    In my perfect draft scenario back then taking Wirfs was absolutely ok with me. I wanted a badass OL with that first pick and Jalen Hurts in one of the later rounds. I'm not a Tua basher but I just didn't trust him to stay healthy because of his size. I felt the same about Devonte Smith in 2021 and was happy as hell when we took Waddle instead, although I really wanted Chase (but who didn't)...
     
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  5. Sceeto

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    Haha!!! Yeah. wasted draft picks is the understatement of the year!
    Just Tua over Herbert is enough to deem it a colossal failure. a complete display of ineptitude. The rest was also a joke.
    ...then there is all of the wasted capitol from the Tunsil trade. How Grier still has a job is beyond me.
     
  6. StaleTacos

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    A franchise can survive busting on an OT and CB.

    A franchise can't survive on picking the wrong QB. Sets back a franchise 5-10 years.
     
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  7. hitman8

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    A GM who picks position over BPA is an idiot. He didnt have to go oline with the jackson pick, he could have picked justin jefferson instead who was the BPA, and he absolutely did not have to go CB with the igbinoguene pick as that was not even a position of need, he could have picked jonathan taylor instead who was the BPA at that spot. And you are ignoring the most damaging blunder of all which was picking Tua over Herbert with that first pick.
     
  8. texanphinatic

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    I'd still like to know who had more influence on drafting Iggy between Grier and Flores. That really screams a Flores pick, but who knows. IIRC we were actually targeting Aiyuk but San Fran snatched him up.

    Jackson has been a massive disappointment, but I wonder what good coaching would have done earlier in his career. Sometimes when a guy gets off on the wrong foot they can't get it going. Still felt like a reach at the time - as much as we needed a LT, he was definitely well below the elite tier guys. Jefferson would have been a great pick in hindsight, or Higgins later on, but outside of them there isn't much.

    The running backs get brought up a lot, but Dobbins has been hurt a lot. Taylor would have been a good pick, but he also struggled this year. It's pretty clear we don't value spending premium on them. I'd have rather had Higgins.
     
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  9. dolphin25

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    I really really wanted Jefferson, he seemed like a slam dunk to me.
     
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    Looks wild looking back at him being the 5th WR taken
     
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  11. mlb1399

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    The 2020 draft is reason #1 why Grier needs to be let go. What should have been a dynasty building draft was almost a complete bust.
     
  12. hitman8

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    2020 and 2017 drafts should have gotten Grier fired by now, if we didnt also have a clueless owner.
     
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  13. Tin Indian

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    I still say that Noah was Flores' pick, not Grier.

    You can lay a whole bunch at Grier's feet, but Iggy should not be one of them.
     
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    Yep!! I was saying that during that draft thread and ever since. Sad, but very true. ....unless they get really lucky somewhere along the way.
     
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    Hunter Long was also supposed to be a Flores pick, but I guess we’ll never know for sure.
     
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  16. hitman8

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    This is a BS copout, Grier has final say on all picks. Even if Flores did want the guy, Grier should have had enough sense to talk him out of it. Grier is ultimately responsible for everything personell related. And if he was a flores guy why did flores bury him on the depth chart his rookie year? Not what a coach would normally do with "their guy".

    Also, one of the main reasons why Grier and Flores fell out at the end was because Flores wanted more say over personel decisions, which means he was not getting the players he really wanted or else he would not have asked for that.
     
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  17. mlb1399

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    Yeah, that 2017 draft was actually more brutal. At least the 2020 draft got some starters even though we basically wasted 3 picks in the first 2 rounds.
     
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    One Grier move that is really enraging me as of late is that Chubb deal. I mean, wt-??? I don't think he has ever made it through a full season healthy. The idiot Grier knows they may need that pick if Tua doesn't work out and even if Tua works out, they could really use that pick for an OLineman or something. Man........:gun_bandana:....terrible move.
     
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  19. Fishhead

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    Let’s see what Fangio can scheme up for him before writing off the trade. Remember, Boyer had X playing 10 yards off his man when that’s not his game. We know Boyer want able to make adjustments, and he was terrible at reworking his schemes for new players. He was still running cover 0 without Jones and with a hobbled X, for crying out loud.
     
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