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Tua is not the Problem

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Nov 6, 2021.

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  1. RGF

    RGF THE FINSTER Club Member

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    Easy tiger, your aggravation is their number one energy source .
     
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  2. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea why I even click on this thread anymore, I know what will be waiting for me to see. It's sort of like a car crash at an intersection- you don't want to see it, but you can't look away.
     
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  3. RGF

    RGF THE FINSTER Club Member

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    I know exactly what you mean.
    I will admit though, it got a lot easier when I realized what the motive was and where it was coming from. It became comical in a way. And , it doesn't take a genius to understand how certain posts are " liked" so fast.
     
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  4. hitman8

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    I havent said its just one side, and its wrong if either side does it, but I think lately its been the pro tua crowd that has been completely intolerant of anything negative that is said about Tua. There have been calls to ban people and shut down threads. This thread in fact was temporarily shutdown because some Tua nuthugger got his panties in a bunch and complained to mods, and I do know of at least one poster who was banned for being a realist fan and having anti tua views.
     
  5. cbrad

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    I seriously doubt this poster you mention was banned for his anti-Tua views. More likely he was banned for his posting style, not his anti-Tua views. Who was it? We can go back and check.
     
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  6. Sceeto

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    This has gotten so bad. Are we all just supposed to agree about everything and love every single move our team makes? This isn't what this site should be about.

    I used to be just like a lot the Tuanonners in the sense that I used to support any move the team made. I was a total "homer" and I still am in many ways, but my fandom changed a bit awhile back. I can remember exactly when. It was during that Dan Cambell season. I had my hopes up high as usual and after that went to s--t, I remember for that season, I was done with the whole bleeping team aside for Landry. HaHa! I know. ...and I was a big Tanne fan. I made a lot of positive, supportive posts and threads about him. I fell off of them all, but came back around to supporting Tanne a bit in the following years. The whole franchise was such a s--t show at that point. It was a real new low.

    Fast forward to the 2019 draft. Now I don't want to turn this into a who is better than a certain who debate. Ha. Seriously. However, that was supposed to be a franchise changing draft and and franchise changing off-season with all of the capitol from the Tunsil trade. All of that! What did it net us?

    So, one can see how the frustration can just mount and mount. I said during that draft that mistakes like those can screw a team up for many years to come and all we can do at this point is hope that we get really lucky somewhere along the way.

    Hey, we have one hell of a coaching staff assembled here. Lets hope we take another step in the right direction and another big step up.

    I hope Tua does it. I just may not have the same confidence in that happening as some and that's ok. I still want it to happen and I said many times before games that when the ball is snapped, I root for Tua as much as I have rooted for any Phin QB. That's the truth. That's where my "homer" side will never leave and it shouldn't.

    I do not think it is right for some of the "Clubbers" coming in this thread and doing nothing, but calling people trolls, etc. A lot of you, I go way back with and I truly like a lot of you and enjoy reading your posts, etc. Coming in the thread and just calling certain posters trolls, etc, over and over again does nothing and makes the that side look pretty bad and petty. It also doesn't display anything that would make people want to join and possibly donate. In all honesty, it is the Tuanonners who are losing their cool and calling people out with insults, etc and getting the thread shot down. I mean, look at what has happened to the thread since this has happened.

    Aside from a few teams in the league, I would bet most fans of most teams debate and have different opinions on their QB. There is really no big deal here. Understand, one side is just as frusrated as the other. We just express it in different ways on different issues, from different view points. Not a big deal. Understandable.

    People just need to unclinch a bit. Have some fun with it. Disagree, but man, loosen it up a bit.


    ........anyway.....have a drink and lighten the hell up. Peace biotches!
     
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  7. FinFaninBuffalo

    FinFaninBuffalo Well-Known Member

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    Nobody calls anyone a troll for simply having a different opinion on Tua.
     
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  8. Fireland

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    We all know some people here are just trolling. Negative Tua people shouldn't feel the need to run to their defense just because they don't want to be hit with the same label when they aren't going to be.
     
  9. RGF

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    The difference, or so it appears, is you seem genuinely honest in saying you root for Tua to succeed regardless if you believe in him or not. The "others" do not want Tua to succeed but they refuse to just admit it .They write posts so long it would rival War and Peace, then they end it by implying they root for Tua regardless because they're Dolphins fans..
    And as far as trolls are concerned it's its more than just an assumption they post here.
     
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  10. djphinfan

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    2nd year in offense for the first time ever

    Watch out man…

    Now we got a legit slot running routes underneath which we had Gesicki doing last year.

    Not gonna be able to drop linebackers too far back anymore
     
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  11. KeyFin

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    To get us a little back on subject, I saw the talking heads on ESPN and other channels covering Tua's statement that he considered retirement last year after the 2nd concussion. They were worried that if he's thought about it and training martial arts to learn how to control his body better, then he could call it quits the next time he takes a shot to the head. I feel like their argument was misplaced at best because if anyone sustains a head injury, they should think about if they should keep doing what they're doing. Most players wouldn't admit it, so all the hoopla is really over Tua being honest.

    The more interesting part of these talking heads conversations, however, was Miami's chances of making a Super Bowl this year. Every talking head commented that we have a stacked roster, one of the best defenses in the league, and we're going to be a very hard team to beat on any given Sunday. This team is legit and Tua is poised for one heck of a year if he can stay healthy.
     
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  14. resnor

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    Damn right.

    I feel like our personal journeys regarding the team and QBs are pretty much exactly the same.
     
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  15. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Hahahahahahahaha
     
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  16. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Either name the posters, or don't say the things you're saying.

    Only Sceeto isn't a troll, everyone else is?
     
  17. FinFaninBuffalo

    FinFaninBuffalo Well-Known Member

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    Your response speaks volumes....
     
  18. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    Yeah, he needs to catch a break. No injuries.
     
  19. OwesOwn614

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    I think nobody should be surprised that he had the discussion with his family. It's odd that people are shocked by his admission.

    People saw how good we were before the first Buffalo game. Heck, people saw how good we were in the second Buffalo game. And that was in McDaniel's first season as coach. Keeping #1 upright is a huge part of our success in 2023 and most people understand we have a pretty good opportunity to have our best season this century.
     
  20. djphinfan

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    you keep engaging in the off topic garbage..

    Let’s stay on topic and ignore the nonsense
     
  21. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    1. You don't get to tell me how to post.
    2. Statements like what he made are EXACTLY what continues to fuel this argument, as I've repeatedly pointed out, yet I only see you telling posters like me to stay "on topic."
     
  22. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Yeah, it says that I'm not going to actually engage in a discussion with you, because you are a disingenuous poster, who does not have discussions in good faith.
     
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  23. djphinfan

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    I made a statement and posed a question.

    Looks to me You seem to want to continue discussing the same things without context. I sure don’t see you bringing anything else to the discussion about this Qb ?
     
  24. Sceeto

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    Yeah man. You are the one I was mainly referring to, bro when I said posters I have always liked.
    I think most people want him to succeed, but some don’t have the same confidence in that happening as others.

    However, it doesn’t matter now because either way, as of now, he is our QB. All we can do at the moment is “hope for the best” and hold off the b—-hing for awhile on both sides.
     
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  25. FinFaninBuffalo

    FinFaninBuffalo Well-Known Member

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    LOL.... one of your prior responses to me:

    This was in response to a post where I simply listed the height and weight of QBs near the same size as Tua.
     
  26. FinFaninBuffalo

    FinFaninBuffalo Well-Known Member

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    Actually, you dislike posters who debate with facts that contradict your unsupported (and self-admitted unqualified) opinions. Then, whine later.....
     
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  27. FinFaninBuffalo

    FinFaninBuffalo Well-Known Member

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    Either name the posters, or don't say the things you're saying.
     
  28. FinFaninBuffalo

    FinFaninBuffalo Well-Known Member

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    Given the fact that you admitted that you aren't qualified to comment on what you are watching, this seems like an insult.
     
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  29. KeyFin

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    Folks, Resnor is a good guy. I've never met him in person but we've talked a lot over the years to where I know some about his life, his viewpoints, etc. He's a good man and not here to troll anyone.

    Yes, he's worried that Tua won't be around long...or can sustain what he did last year. But he does root for Tua as much as any of us and there's no reason to keep these arguments going with him.

    I disagree with Resnor on A LOT OF STUFF (including Tua), but we argue civilly and remain friends. He loves this team- please cut him a little slack.
     
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  30. djphinfan

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    Res is good peeps..

    lets get back on topic and see what can be discussed from it.

     
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  31. djphinfan

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    wow our qb did that..

    yes we have to worry if he can stay healthy but with average arm strength how can do that??..wow..I wonder how he does that with such a low wonderlic and having average arm strength?

    hmmmmm
     
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    Yes and Jftr, it was my man, Res, who, awhile back, made an “all positive Tua thread” where he clearly stated that it was only for positive Tua comments and he made most of the positive comments in that thread:
    However, no one really posted in that thread and if I remember correctly, that thread too was still met with a lot of negative bickering.
     
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    You put too much faith in stats. Having the best and most dynamic wide reciever duo in the league who can quickly get open past 5 yards helps a lot with that YPA stat. Tua was #1 in the league according to that stat, do you actually think that makes him the best deep ball thrower in the NFL? I dont think so.

    Our MVP last year was Tyreek Hill, not Tua.
     
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  34. RGF

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    I agree.
    It may appear I'm a Tua homer 100% but my earlier posts will prove I was skeptical about his ability to be a quality NFL QB. He proved, beyond doubt, that he's very capable of being among the upper echelon of great QB's in this league. Like everyone else, his durability is my main concern.
    Some posters, for obvious reasons, love to knock Tua and never give him credit where it's due. I've seen massive improvement in his game so I'm all in til further notice.
    The haters are not open to the positives so it's pointless debating at this point. The difference is, I noticed the Tua supporters are openly aware of the areas where Tua can improve.
     
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  35. FinFaninBuffalo

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    Not belabor the point, but this is the kind of post that has generated many responses in this thread with nothing but attempts to take credit away from Tua and give it all to others with no supporting evidence whatsoever. I guarantee that someone will claim "wide open receivers", "just throwing a spot", "it's all McDaniel's scheme", "but he got figured out late in the season", "cherry picking, what about 2020 and 2021", etc, etc, etc.

    This is what I am referring to when I claim people are trolling, the repetitive posting of negative responses to Dolphins fans posting positive FACTUAL information about the Dolphins' QB ON A DOLPHINS FAN SITE.
     
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  36. FinFaninBuffalo

    FinFaninBuffalo Well-Known Member

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    LOL..... called it......
     
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  37. RGF

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    No, not everyone.
     
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  38. RGF

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    It gets easier and easier.
     
  39. RGF

    RGF THE FINSTER Club Member

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    His receiver's. C'mon man, get with it.
     
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  40. StaleTacos

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    It's like Tannehill's first two seasons with generational talent Henry and elite WR AJ Brown. Monster stats. Elite talent around QB can only get you so far. Eventually a QB will need to stand on his own. At least Tannehill though got his team into the AFC Championship. There's a lot of parallels to Tua and Tannehill, although Tanny has actually showed the ability to play a full season. Both represent fool's gold.
     
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