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Merged:Miami Dolphins' Williams avoids temptation during bye week

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Styla, Sep 30, 2008.

  1. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    He's human, of course there is going to be the temptation of smoking weed again, but he hasnt done it yet so whats the big deal?
     
  2. mullingan

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    I admire Ricky and what he has done. Will it surprise me if he never has another incident while in NFL of substance abuse? No, I think he has matured and has other means of dealing with the things that he turned to POT to take care of. Will it surprise me if he pops next week for marijuana? No, because I know first hand how addictive things can be whether they be legal or not and for some, including myself, the temptation pops up every now and then to do it "just one more time". I wish him the best and hope he continues to resist temptation.
     
  3. TotoreMexico

    TotoreMexico Your retarded

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  4. Tone_E

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    So, you've never made a mistake in life before. You sure have, so, you're a loser!! In the context that you use the word, I'm serious, and I don't apologize for it. That also means I'm a loser, and all others reading this thread.

    I've tried the mary jane, and still smoke occasionally, and so have you, I remember from another thread.

    Give the man a break. He is honest, and that takes a greater set of marbles than most of us here. He is making strides to better himself by commiting himself to this team again, and here we are knocking on him. Until he scores that touchdown right? Then its okay again. Till his next interview, then we'll be on him again. Then he scores, and its okay again. You see where Im going here.

    I have the utmost respect for Ricky, even after all he did to us. Remember, he had social anxiety disorder. The key word there is disorder! Weed was a natural supplement for the medication required for is bipolar disease....FACT! He seems to have overcome that and is trying to better his life, and we sit here and judge the man, all the while he could've given up years ago.

    Heck, in a lot of ways I see the guy as a role model. Overcome obstacles and keep goin, regardless of what people think....
     
  5. alen1

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    He also had white lines. :shifty:

    Good post Tone.
     
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  6. djphinfan

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    ya gish i do, this is not the proper forum to discuss but from what i know from ricky' problems, Pot dependency can't hold my jockstrap.

    quit feeling sorry for ricky, its POT WERE TALKING ABOUT HERE, and iam saying he should shut his mouth when talking about his urgers to the media. Hes making it too personal with people who don't care about him. His old enough and wise enough to know better.
     
  7. djphinfan

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    i dont know who the hell bryce j is but i tell ya something, my wisdom and knowledge for life tells me to answer the question like this......"do you get urges to smoke pot, especially with the extra time you have on the bye?"......... First of all thats none of your business and even if i did, i would'nt do it....next question.

    you got dat funkdat
     
  8. Dannyg28

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    He wasn't the one who brought the subject up they ASKED HIM specifically if he was tempted to smoke, and being the honest guy that he is he answered truthfully. Would you rather he lied, or danced around the question? As long as he doesn't smoke weed i really don't see the problem here, addicts are always addicts its just the way they are, they just have to try their best to avoid that temptation.
     
  9. funkdat

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    LOL he's my brother.........and word for word it sounded like something he would say.

    He's a also a Dolfan and no stranger to this site.
     
  10. djphinfan

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    understand and understood, but also be smart to keep your mouth shut, i dont care how helpful it is to his recovery addiction from smoking pot, be smart enough know when to keep your mouth shut when it comes to your URGES TO SMOKE POT. if the guy was a crack head or a recovering alcoholic etc, i would be a lot more compassionate when it comes to airing your dirty laundry, This is not on that level.
     
  11. djphinfan

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    and knowing when to keep your mouth shut is also a sign of maturity, seems to me like he elaborated just alittle too much. like i said, dont lie, but their are many ways to answer that question without giving them too much info.
     
  12. djphinfan

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    i'll tell you what giberish is, gibberish is talking about a man who has been kicked out of the nfl, lost millions of dollars, let down his family and fans, yet still likes to talk about his urges to smoke pot after he has gotten is fourth chance in life to become a millionare.

    There are so many kids in this country that have no chance in life, iam a foster parent so i know, his problems are fixable, i just dont think it was the proper forum for him to discuss his urges to smoke pot.
     
  13. PhinishLine

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    I'm puzzled too. Just call me crossword.
     
  14. funkdat

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    Most people have some kind of Vice, and to say one is worst then the other well..........:pity:
     
  15. djphinfan

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    brother, at no time did i attack ricky for what he has done in the past, iam one of the few who understood him and accepted him, what iam saying is you dont talk about this to the media, please stop giving him credit for doing so. theres a time and a place for everything.
     
  16. Tone_E

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    Brother, I did not quote you at all.

    As for the time and place, ok, you may have a point, but if Ricky is openly discussing it with the media, I actually am more reassured. If he really was considering giving into the temptation, believe me, the media would not have heard a word. This proves to me that he is strong willed enough to resist any temptation, and trust me, it is there, and will remain there. Just my opinion though.
     
  17. djphinfan

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    if you think that all vices and addictions are the same then i digress, debate is over.
     
  18. djphinfan

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    ok bro, i just disagree, maybe because iam around people that have bigger problems and addictions, its part of my carreer. so the whole pot smoking is an addiction just rubs me the wrong way. and people who are applauding him for being honest to the media about his urges are frustrating to me.

    Iam over this, i just want us to beat the chargers and i hope ricky has a great game, i think he has a good heart.
     
  19. slickj101

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    I haven't posted in awhile because this thread absolutely blew up while I was away.

    But I think this pretty much sums it up:

    Ricky obviously doesn't have a business mind. This is just another example of him saying or doing something that a lot of others will look at and go "not smart Ricky." The first example would be him negotiating his own contract for far less then an agent could of gotten him.

    I really think it's just another example of him being brutally honest. He always says things that make us scratch our heads because of how honest and open he is about everything. Saying he's scared or nervous or whatever has caught us off guard before because when we see him on Sundays annihilating people it just seems odd that he would make comments that suggest he feels the opposite sometimes.

    I don't think it's a horrible thing that he has urges as long as he can fight them. Personally, I'm kind of in the same position as he is so I understand where he's coming from. By that, I mean that I enjoyed smoking here and there for a long time but when I got involved in better jobs that required a piss test, I just had to give it up. Sure I think about it here and there and sometimes I'd love to spark one up, but I don't because I know the consequences. Will I again someday? Most likely. But that'll be at a time when I don't have to worry about gambling on my job just to blaze one.

    As long as Ricky has his priorities in order then I don't think there's anything to be concerned about. Everyone has temptations to fight. The difference is that a lot of people look at it as a weakness or a bad idea to bring up things that are supposed to be in the past. I personally don't care if he brings it up in conversations. As long as he keeps making the right decisions then it's all good. Temptation is always going to be there either way.
     
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  20. Dannyg28

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    you can be addicted to anything. Just because it isn't physically addicting doesn't make it not addicting.
     
  21. rdhstlr23

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    Then what is the proper forum?

    The way I see it, is that he's openly honest about saying he has urges, which is what you're so vehemently stuck on. What you are completely dismissing, which is the most important aspect of the piece, IMO, and what can be helpful and good influence to kids, fans, etc. is that he didn't give in to temptation and admits that he doesn't need that in his life right now, etc.

    I've still yet to see anyone who is arguing that this is wrong, argue against Muck's great point. He was asked and how would you have responded if he said no comment or he didn't want to speak about it. Think of the backlash then?!?!
     
  22. Roman529

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    It's very hard breaking any addiction. I know I still have the temptation to want to take percocets and other pain killers which I needed to deal with a shoulder injury and surgery. I used to take these pain killers every day. Now maybe once a month. I think if your career could end over another failed drug test, I would do everything to avoid the temptation....I would even hire someone to make sure I am not alone when I am out and about, and trying to buy some pot.
     
  23. GISH

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    For someone that is claiming to know what it is like to be in his shoes, you sure seem like you don't have a clue to the reality of the situation.

    yeah? You've lost millions and alienated your entire profession, and let down millions of fans? And then, in the face of his family, man's up and turns his life around. Ricky's social anxiety was obviously stemming from his guilt, thus he couldn't face the media. Now he's open and telling the truth. If you can't see the positive coorelation between the two, then you don't have a clue. No offense intended.
     
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  24. HardKoreXXX

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    I think social anxiety was the bigger component in Ricky's downfall. People dont take it that seriously but its a disorder that affects many Americans. Marijuana seemed to be a means to an end.
     
  25. DrAstroZoom

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    Denying your urges is the quickest path to succumbing to them.
     
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  26. djphinfan

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    gish, i dont need a lecture from you, people can be honest and truthful without saying too much in innapropriate situations, iam talking about speaking with media about the situation, these are people that are out to get you, its not smart.

    ive been on record in saying if he gets his act together i welcome him back with open arms because i can understand the struggle one has in life..

    once again, were talking about pot smoking, if you wanna break out your violins for a recovering pot smoker then go ahead, i will not, deal with your anxiety thru medication and dont give me the BS that pot smoking is the medication and that in itself gives him the right to have urges...... please.

    Hes all over the radio on the west coast, being laughed at and mocked, which will create more anxiety for him even though he did'nt do it. Thats NOT good press for him. once it becomes a bigger story which it probably will,then maybe he learn when to keep your mouth shut regardless whether its good for his recovery from POT SMOKING.
     
  27. Styla

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    67 replies and 700 views and not one thanks to the thread starter.:sad:







    :lol:j/k glad to have a thread alot of conversation is in.:up:
     
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  28. djphinfan

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    and by saying that " for someone claiming to understand" as in me and my experiences in life, i take that as disrespect.
     
  29. DrAstroZoom

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    If we are working from the assumption that the desired result is for him to not smoke again, then he handled the question correctly.
     
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  30. NJFINSFAN1

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    Case closed, Doc just posted the winner.

    Those that know me know that I had two brother-in-laws that were addicts, one that is my daughters god-father and another one we were not close too but saw often. They never thought they had problems, NEVER.

    Well, not to sugar coat it, they both took shotguns to their heads and you know the rest.

    Both notes stated they were afraid to talk about it and what it would do to the family. It ate them alive until they really didn't know what to do and ended up hurting the family worse than they ever could have by just talking about it.

    So I'm sorry if it does not bode well with others, but when I see someone open up like Ricky did and talk about it, I clap for the guy.

    I'm not the biggest Ricky fan, but he seems to be dealing with his demons in the right way.
     
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  31. brandon27

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    well, hey... at least ricky is honest enough to admit he still has the urges. Any recovering addict would i would assume. He's dealing with them the right way, and even says it in the article, he knows he has too much to loose. So, it appears at least he's dealing with it properly, and thats definately good for him... and the Dolphins.
     
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  32. FinsAreLife

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    The fact that he said no and is talking about it freely is to me a big deal that he is getting over it.
     
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  33. Jaydog57

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    The fact that Ricky misses a smoke now and again is fine, it's the same as if you were in a situation where you couldn't drink at all. If you're a drinker, you'd want a beer once in awhile.

    The fact that he can say he wouldn't mind smoking a bowl now and then, but knows he can't and therefore will not until he retires, is very admirable. :up:
     
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  34. SkapePhin

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    Considering the current state of the economy and the immense amounts of stress the average american is having to endure at the moment, I think it is almost criminal that we cannot consume a mild organic substance to relieve some stress in the privacy of our own homes.. Good thing for me that wine accomplishes the same affect, although I must say that marijuana is the best cure for anxiety I have ever tried...

    That being said, Ricky obviously does have a mental addiction to this substance. Good for him for finally being strong enough to deal with it in the manner that is neccesary in order for him to keep his job and support his family, as well as not let his teamates and coaches down.. I hope he is able to stop his urges for as long as he is in the NFL..
     
  35. GISH

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    Who cares? Does good press pay his bills, feed his children, or tuck him in at night? The only thing that matters is what he does. If Ricky has learned anything, it's that it doesn't matter what others think.
     
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  36. King Felix

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    yeah marijuana is not natural medication. lets just ask millions of doctors........................
     
  37. King Felix

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    sorry to hear that...what were they addicted to? no disrespect bro, i just find it hard to believe that you are talking about marijuana
     
  38. djphinfan

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    I guess for me its all about putting it into perspective...people are dying in war, children are dying of starvation, Theres disease and poverty all thruought the world, but some of us will defend and support someone who has urges to smoke pot.

    Sorry, get over it ricky, i don't wanna hear your struggles about you smoking pot when there are many other things in the world that deserve sympathy. even though he did'nt ask for it, some of you are giving it to him.

    And yes, some of you defending him and saying that its good for him to be doing this because its his disease is frustrating to me..i can't believe theres such a difference of opinion about his choice to talk about it.

    well there hell is our perspective
     
  39. Trowa

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    I've read this entire thread and I've come to the conclusion you just like to post because you just keep rehashing the same few sentences over and over again. They didn't make sense the first time you posted them. Why would they the next 20 times?
     
  40. djphinfan

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    sorry they don't make sense to you, thats your problem...i post because i have an opinion, not just to post, this matter means something to me..at least iam not afraid to voice it...
     

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