Sure it is.Game in his hands and he choked for 3rd time this year and its on ly week 5.Twice against **** teams. You obviously have a low bar! Dude should have been franchised so we could have sent *** packing next year. Hard to attract a good coach when he will be stuck with him for a year. Waddle doesn't tip that horrible throw it would have ended typical Tua end of game pick.
No it's not. Our defense giving up 239 yards to a backup RB and our running game getting only 19 yards in the entire game is the primary story. Tua had 3 TD, 0 INT and a 122 rating. That last choke is NOT a major part of the story. Only Tua hatred above all else would suggest you should focus on Tua instead of the defense and OL/running game.
Stop! You have the chance to save ur team and you failed again. Marino wins all 3 games! This guy doesn't have the it factor! Facts!
And he choked when all you need a fg! So stop with ur pathetic and I mean pathetic deflection for this guy.
Tua is just emblematic of the whole system. No he's not the biggest problem, but he's not a solution and is/was the core piece for the entire Grier experiment and tanking. The anger and irritation at him isn't just about him, but about how mediocre this team is in general and how we can't move forward with the same old pieces (namely Grier) and expect to do any better.
Keep ignoring a defense this pathetic and you won't win that coveted SB even with an elite QB. Not against replacing Tua, but criticism of him today is unwarranted given what the defense and running game failed to do.
He was part of the problem. The team punted the football a million times in the second half because he couldn’t get anything going. His touchdown drive was the only good drive in the second half. He also sailed an interception right to a safety for the third time in 4 games, luckily Waddle got a hand on it.
Those who watched the game and posted in the game day thread all complained about the same thing, the defense. Only in a post game, emotionally heightened discussion does the finger pointing get directed to one player. Tua didn’t allow over 7.5 yards per carry. Tua didn’t allow the Panthers to be 2/2 on 4th down conversions Tua didn’t allow Dowdle to rush for 200 yards Tua didn’t allow the Panthers to go 83 yards and score the go ahead touchdown This loss is 100% on the defense. I stated in a previous thread that with the defense playing so poorly, your offense has to be PERFECT every time, which is impossible.
The running game producing only 19 yards was a far more important factor in the offense not getting things going. Tua, Waddle and Waller were the 3 offensive players you really can't blame today. Nitpicking and saying they weren't perfect isn't an argument. All three increased win probability, and by quite a bit. The blame on offense falls more on OL and running game. Also, Tua + Waddle gave the team a lead with 4:42 to go, only for the defense to mess that up again. Even the last series a stupid penalty prevented the offense from taking the field again. No, this game Tua, Waddle and Waller are not the problem.
btw.. this is the 2nd consecutive game where Herbert did a choke move and played a key role in losing the game, in both cases against weaker teams (especially the Giants). Herbert can't seem to overcome pressure, you know.. like people say an elite QB should. Criticizing Tua is one thing, but Herbert is an even bigger choker in the playoffs thus far. This is also a no excuses year for Herbert. If he doesn't win a playoff game this year, especially with a top level defense (thus far), no one should suggest we should have picked him over Tua.
Such a simplistic nonsensical viewpoint. Who choked and let a below average team run all over them, but somehow had the time to rehearse their 2 celebrations in the endzone? The defense!!!!!
The standard Tua is being held to now is you must complete two game winning drives in the final 5 minutes of the game or else you're a choker.
Haha! The Pats 2 drives to win game wiff! The Bills 1 drive to at least take lead wiff! Panthers 2 mintues 3 timeouts whiff!!! Its week 5.0-3. Sorry if we have higher standards for a 50 mil a year Qb
Every Dolphins fan I know in real life hates Tua. The only fans I know that defend him are on this site.
Hate is a weird word to use. I do feel that he is simply not good enough, likely never will be and that he needs to be replaced. However, until and unless Grier is sent packing, it doesn't matter. He is the main issue and has to be first to go.
Hate. Really ?? This is the problem with the internet. People conflate and make statements against someone that they don’t agree with and couch it like they’ve done something TO THEM. It’s a sad state when people only live in their emotions and state that as reality. I understand that as I’ve been guilty of it also. Maybe the rhetoric needs to be tamped down a little. The alternative leads to a really dark place.
Bottomline is this!True franchise Qbs win these games and pick up your team.This guy doesn't!Fact!. Not worth what we are paying him. Hell Carson Wentz led a comeback win today. Do u think any defence and I mean any defence fears Tua when he has the ball with under 2 mintues?
Tua has left the field numerous times with the lead in the past three years only for the defense to give it up.
Man stop! Answer question.Do u think any team is worried when Tua has ball with under 2 mintues down a score?
This one is on the defense. Only a hater will ignore Rico Fkin Dowdell bowling over us for 200 yards just to blame Tua. Yes...Tua was cheeks the first three games, but he's played virtually flawless over the last two games. This was 100% on the defense. I've been ever bit of critical of him this year and have even stated that maybe it's time to look elsewhere, but he damn sure did not lose the game for us today. Only a blind idiot would suggest otherwise. It's going to be a down year for us. Thing is, I've actually had a lot of fun with it which is crazy, considering we're 1-4 so far. Aside from the Indy slaughter, these games have all come down to the wire. If the defense could give us anything at all, we'd be 3-2 right now, maybe even 4-1.
Come on man!Dude makes 50 mil a year and 0-3 with ball under 2 mintues. Franchise Qb I don’t think so! We should have scooped up Mayfield and lets this choker go!
Our rushing yards is perplexing given we were leading 17-0. Not really sure how the play calling went the way that it did. When you have a crap defense, you run the ball and burn the clock with a lead...it really confuses me.
We tried to run, but couldn't. In the 4 drives after we went up 17-0 we had 6 runs and 5 passes. Those 6 runs totaled 6 yards!! We simply couldn't run even with a lead. The only part of our offense that did work was the passing game, without run support that is. That's why the loss falls primarily on the defense and the running game. At least the '72 Dolphins are safe. All teams have now lost at least one game.
Blame Tua if you want but until this team can block and tackle expect more of the same results. I find it difficult to watch knowing they don't have ability to play at the level required to win .
Was that in some way down to our piss-poor O-line do you think? I must say that I was impressed with their run stopping ability.
I never said he was a franchise QB you simpleton. Don't put words in my mouth. Find the quote where I said he was a franchise QB. Otherwise crawl back under your rock and snuggle up with your Herbert body pillow.
If they don't fire Grier, and draft a legitimate top 10 QB this team is not going to contend in this division for a decade.
