One last note. Another game where Ronnie Brown doesn't get 20 carries, ANOTHER LOSS. I fail to see how these top-dollar coaches don't see it.
No I'm not angry because my rebuilding team played their hearts out on that field today and deserved a win. However due to some luck and a lack of secondary talent the Fins lost. The team gave a 110% out there today. Now the coaches made some bonehead 4th and 1 calls but overall when it came down to it the Texans had more talent on the offense then we did on defense. However yes I am depressed about this though because of how it ended and the Fins lost. This team has already beat expectations this year and can get to 3-3 next week which no one thought they could be. Its going to be like this all through the year so we better get accustomed to it.
Inexcusable. Not only did he unnecessarily vacate, but he vacated with a split DL. They were lined up wide. We effectively conceded the touchdown before the snap. Unbelievable. And now we have to hear Bill Cowher saying this was poetic justice. We've lost to Houston every ****ing time like this. We lost games like this last year. **** that. Poetic justice would be if, for once, Miami didn't lose to Houston at the end of a game, much less beat them period. We've lost 4 games to them by a total of 7 points.
WHAT? Was he smoking a doobie before he went on air? What the hell have WE done to them for it to be poetic justice? If anything WE deserved to win based on poetic justice for all of the BS that they have done, luck they've had and help from the refs to go 4-0 against us now. Screw you Cowher
Everytime an offense scores with a min left on the clock, every fan wishes their offense had taken more time from the clock. To say ronnie shouldn't have scored is a classic example of 20/20 hindsight. Ronnie did what he was paid to do... when your offense scores 28 points and loses, that's on the defense. I don't care how many mistakes your offense makes with 28 points, they did their job.
No running back is ever going to do that. Making the other team drive the length of the field in 1:45 ought to be good enough for the win. And it almost was: they converted two fourth downs on that drive. Besides, I am not sure kneeling down would have even worked; they would have called time after each kneeldown and gotten the ball back with 45 seconds or so, needing to hit a couple passes to get in FG range.
You have got to be kidding me. In this league, you cover all grounds. You see an opportunity to score, and you take it. I mean, come on. Sit down at the one and take a knee? If that was the case, a blocked kick would have been WELL DESERVED. Ronnie Brown should have scored there, because he should have faith in his defense to not suck.
Right. It's risky, stupid, and sets your team up for failure. When you're down 23-21 and there's nothing but green field ahead, you run until (if) you're stopped. Period.
I have to agree. Granted you can argue that the offense could've done more to seal the game.... But in the end, the Defense wasn't in need to stop a field goal attempt...it was a TD. A freaking TD... I dont care what time is left on the clock, you get paid to prevent the other team from scoring TDs. So if you tell me that with 75 secs left on the clock your defense cant stop the other team from scoring a TD and ending the game, then I am sorry but thats on your Defense. When its a close game like that and your in the lead, knock the ball down, wrap up and tackle, stick to your man like glue, spit in their eye, kick'em in the **** if the refs arent looking, do WHATEVER you gotta do to prevent that TD from happening because thats why your called a defense. Offense gave you the lead and as a defensive player you live for the chance to end the game. We had what... 2 4th down chances?... and we blew them both.
I can't even believe we're even having this discussion right now. Ronnie Brown did what he was supposed to do.
What does last week have to do with today? That's not the point I was making, but we were two overthrown TD passes away from losing last week too. The analogy stands. Seriously? When we HAD to have a score at the end of the game, the offense got it. We were trailing, they'd struggled, and yet they found a way to get it done in crunch time. Hell, the offense even helped itself out and forced a turnover after that INT, which led to the last TD. The defense forced three turnovers. But they was gashed for 485 yards. We *****ed about it all day. They couldn't get off the field. They had two 4th downs on the last drive and gave them up. They blew two coverages, possible three if you count Crowder on the last play. The offense scored 28 points off 370 yards total offense. Pretty darn good in my book. Defense has them pinned on their own 16 and couldn't hold. Not an option here. That TD came on 2nd down. Houston still had 2 timeouts left. If Ronnie takes a knee, they simply call timeout. We take another knee on 3rd down, they call another timeout.
I'm playing to win this game, I don't give a damn about my defense if I know I can run out the clock to kick a field goal as time expires to win the game. I am taking the best possible way to win and to me, that's the best possible way. I would do that 100/100 times if I had the choice. You can say hindsight all you want, but I was thinking it was before it happened. Believe what you want, but it's pretty hard to post my opinion before it happened at a sports bar.
It was 2nd and 5, not 2nd and goal. Brown went down at the 12 yard line on that reception. So on that 6 yard TD run, he could have stopped at the one yard line and still have the first. We get the first down and they can call their two time outs. It's much more likely we get the win in that situation.
I read this and I think back to Brian Westbrook taking a knee at the one yard line of the Dallas Cowboys to milk the clock.
With all the things that went wrong in this game, I can't believe people are trying to blame a touchdown run by Brown for the defeat. It's beyond ridiculous.
You're right, it wasn't 2nd-and-goal. I stand corrected. Regardless, I find zero fault with Ronnie on that play. How many guys have that thought in their head? I sure didn't.
I did, but you ask Skeet84, that's always been my mindset. I don't mean to sound like a jackass in this situation, but that's just how I feel it should have been coached. I am not saying Ronnie is stupid or anything, it's just how I would have done it.
By the way, here was the situation with Westbrook: Philadelphia Eagles running back Brian Westbrook made one of the strangest plays of the NFL season when he took a handoff against the Dallas Cowboys, broke into the clear, raced toward the end zone -- and stopped at the 1-yard line. The Eagles had a four-point lead just before the two-minute warning at the time, the Cowboys were out of timeouts, and after Westbrook's play Philadelphia could just run out the clock with three straight kneeldowns. If the eagles had been down by two instead of up by four, you can bet your *** Westbrook would have taken it into the end zone.
I'd of called Ronnie Brown a bone head if he stopped and took a knee there. Win or lose that game after the play.
You know what though? Westbrook didn't think to do that. Jon Runyan told him to beforehand. Great awareness. But how often does ANYBODY think of that, much less a skill player? You're taught and conditioned to score from Pop Warner. The coaches certainly didn't tell Ronnie to either.
Very good point here. The mindset is completely different when you're leading rather than trailing. Very risky. FG's get blocked. Snaps are fumbled. I'm of the opinion you take the points. I have no way of knowing, but I would think Ronnie would have gotten his *** CHEWED if he'd have fallen down in that situation.
Exactly!! Thank you!....if we're going to play the "what someone should have done" game; how about the defense should have made some key stops.
god i hate the texans. looks like we get a shot at them next year though, as we will both probabky finish in our division cellars
Man I think they are just traumatized by the wabbler against the Raiders back in the day... Nevermind I just mentioned an unholy day...which BTW this will go down as an UNHOLY day in Dolphins history just like the 1989 WEEK 1 loss to the Bills in which they had it on the 2 with a few secs left and did the SAME damn thing to us (Jim Kelly run).
I can usually calm down after a loss like this. It's just taking longer today. Wish I had my punching bag.
Oh I know what you mean bro and I truely thank you guys for this site so that I could rant and air myself out some because I was ready to do bad things after the game ...my wife had to even calm me down some before the neighbors called the cops I was screaming and cursing so loud.
I know what you mean. I basically lose control for three hours. I yell and stomp and throw things. Completely immature. But only in private. I know my neighbors hear me, but I forget. Nothing else gets me as fired up or pissed off as this team.
