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So What number will Matt Ryan wear for the Dolphins?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by adamprez2003, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    I thought there was a 20% chance that we would draft the guy before Parcells was hired but after firing Cameron the ties that Beck had going for him just disappeared. Beck is not a Parcells type and with Matt Ryan available for the new coach (Sparano is about a 90% probability at this point) I would put that probability at about 50%. Parcells took Bledsoe with number one overall so the argument that he never drafts QBs that high doesnt exist. To me its either Ryan, Gholston or Long, whoever impresses Parcells the most at the Senior Bowl and combine. Trading down might not be the option as it was before if they fall in love with one of these guys
     
  2. psingh01

    psingh01 New Member

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    I suggest 11 or 14. Beck blew it when he chose 9....
     
  3. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    I dont see it...certainly not at #1 overall.

    So much has to happen between now and draft day it beyond the realm of sanity to even begin to speculate. I just dont see drafting another QB on day one of the draft unless we stock pile a whole bunch of picks.
     
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  4. DolfanDaveInATX

    DolfanDaveInATX New Member

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    Zero.
     
  5. Motion

    Motion New Member

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    Wishful Thinking


    Ireland has already said he has a high opinion of John Beck.
     
  6. #1dolphinsfan

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    he wont be wearing a Dolphins uniform Ireland said in his interview that he and the cowboys were high on Beck
     
  7. ncfinfan69

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    I would be more inclined to trade JT and a 2nd or 3rd for Derek Anderson if I thought Cleveland would let him go that cheap.He's a known quantity in the NFL but Ryan or any other QB coming out is a risk because you never know how a college QB will do in the pros till they make the leap(and after they've spent the money).BTW, I read somewhere today that Ireland scouted John beck and thought highly of him.
     
  8. sabanhater

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    Beck only has 4 1/2 games under his belt.
     
  9. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    LETS THE GAMES BEGIN.... Im telling you you will hear tons of I love this guy talk prior to the draft..
    Also Beck has a shot, he has to have a good Offensive Coach to open up the playbook and chuck the ball deep.


    We actually hold some nice cards for this hand of poker, and a good poker player!
     
  10. sabanhater

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    we can't give up on him yet
     
  11. Dors156

    Dors156 New Member

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    Ryan wont be drafted by Miami so dont get your hopes up. Ireland has said good things about Beck. Beck was put in a tough place for a rookie when your star running back is out and your best wide reciever is a rookie. Absolutely no impact at tight end. I think Beck could do good things next year.
     
  12. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    I agree. Number 9? Who chosses number 9? Doomed from the start. Personally we should go back to the traditional 12
     
  13. Captain lou

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    It sounds like your the one in love with Matt Ryan. When Parcells drafted Bledsoe the Patriots hadn't drafted a qb in the second round the year prior. I bet you were also a BIG Brady Quinn advocate. We aren't drafting Matt Ryan so you'll have to find ways to fall in love with Dorsey unless we trade down. Beck is the future for now. In coming week I bet you hear kind words from the Parcels camp about Beck. Much to your dissapointment I'm sure!
     
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  14. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero

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    he wont be wearing any number for us unless its a number we pick in the 3rd
     
  15. Motion

    Motion New Member

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    Kinda hard to do when that number is retired.
     
  16. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Hated Quinn and Leinart. Loved Cutler. Cutler is the only QB i wouldve drafted the last three years in the first round. Utuil this year where either Brohm or Ryan would make me happy. Dorsey I doubt. Back problems will drop him IMO to 4th or 5th.
     
  17. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    I know. was just kidding
     
  18. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Here's the quote


    "We're still in the process of evaluating," Ireland said of the quarterbacks. "I know Beck from the college draft last year, but I've got to sit down and really evaluate what you have here and we'll make those decisions. We were high on Beck (in last year's draft), absolutely."

    The first part sounds like the same speech Parcells gave about Cameron. The second part is definitely more optimistic. Then again maybe they just got drunk on Becks. Just kidding. We'll see
     
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  19. Captain lou

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    Wait until Monday night when we see him healthy.
     
  20. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Cant wait for that game.
     
  21. vmarcilfan75

    vmarcilfan75 blah...blah...blah... Club Member

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    im not believing anything the Staff has to say about not drafting who or what.
    We have the #1 pick. Were going to here Rumors left and right till Goodell is on that podium.
     
  22. HysterikiLL

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    This year seriously is just kind of a down year for us though. The best players in this draft are guys we don't immediately need (and yet we need just about every other position).

    Next year is poised to be incredibly deep, so look for a middle of the road year just to knock us out of contention for getting anyone franchise worthy.
     
  23. SCall13

    SCall13 ThePhins QB

    Ireland saying he was high on Beck doesn't mean anything. What was Ireland supposed to say? That Beck has no tools, no skill, nor anything else we're looking for in a QB? I'm not suggesting he or I REALLY think these things about Beck. But Ireland wasn't going to come in and immediately start trashing the players and give zero votes of confidence. Even if Ireland and company ARE high on Beck, that doesn't mean they feel Beck is the guy the want to lead this team. I'm not going to flat out bet that we draft a QB with our first pick, but I'm not going to dismiss it 100% either.
     
  24. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Adam, let me start by saying I love you man..Seriously you have always been one of my favorites on here...now then:

    WE ARE NOT DRAFTING MATT RYAN. (.) PERIOD...not unless we trade out of the first round all-together... got it?

    Second. Dorsey's ailment isnt his back, its his knee which was compromised on a VERY dirty play.
    Even hurt, he STILL demanded double and triple teaming...He is the real deal..that being said. I would be alright with he or Chris Long with our first pick
     
  25. SCall13

    SCall13 ThePhins QB

    I wouldn't chalk Dorsey up as a sure bet. With what has happened with him injury wise, Parcells could shy away from him, especially consider all the needs we have and the slew of other areas we have to choose from.
     
  26. arsenal

    arsenal Sunglasses and advil

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    what makes Beck a not-parcells guy? im guessing the only thing you can thing of is his height? but Romo is also only 6'2" so i dont know what makes you say that
     
  27. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Actually bro. If he wasnt high on Beck, he probably wouldnt say anything at all about him. YOu are right, he doesnt come in with guns slinging, but I dont think he comes in with Mud slinging either :up:
     
  28. Agreed about Cutler. I wanted to trade up for Cutler and signed Hutchingson in FA that year and we would not be in the shape we are in now. Saban blew it that off season. That is why is no longer here.
     
  29. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    lol. I got 4 more months of hopes and dreams. Stop raining on my parade. Wait a minute... rain isnt yellow?:ffic:
     
  30. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Me too. Culpepper signing killed that and Hutchinson was another FA that I wanted that year. Man how happy would we be right now
     
  31. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Now the Cutler thing I can agree on. I think he was the ONLY QB worthy of a top 10 pick
     
  32. big0mar

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    we are not drafting Dorsey unless he somehow gains 20lbs and weighs in at atleast 210-215
     
  33. Swampfox

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    So we draft Ryan. Which pick did we waste? The 2nd on Beck or the 1st on Ryan? Will we have a first round pick at all? If Parcells goes after Anderson it will at least take our first rounder and he will go after a vet. More picks and money out the window every time we start over.

    Everyone would be calling for Ryans head by game 3 cause he isnt Marino.
     
  34. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Hahaha...For Dorsey to weigh between 210 and 215 he would have to lose over 100 lbs..

    :up:
     
  35. Mrtree

    Mrtree Juan Huron's agent

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    What's going to be strange about the number he wears for us is that its going to be on a Falcons jersey...
     
  36. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    But he's better suited for a 4-3 and we'll see about his back. He did have back problems earlier this year right? The knee I'm not worried about. Back problems for a Defensive lineman are the number one threat to long term longevity IMO. I think the best draft for Dorsey would be a defense that runs a 4-3. He will be a dominating 4-3 tackle. As a 3-4 DE I think there is a question as to how dominating he'll be. Like you said if Chris Long is being considered then you have to question how Dorsey would do there. Dorsey is far more dominating as a 4-3 DT than a 3-4 DE. To me Gholston is the wild card. A 3-4 needs a playmaking OLB more than a DE and if Gholston can impress then I think he goes before Long. Long to me is the safe pick. A guy who is going to be very good but never great. Dorsey and Gholston have more upside but more downside
     
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  37. LikeUntoGod

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    Ahhh Jay Cutler.

    If we had keep our 2nd round pick we traded for Culpepper, it would have made enough with our 16th pick to trade down to 9th place and take Jay Cutler.

    I raved over that for 6 months.........
     
  38. arsenal

    arsenal Sunglasses and advil

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    i'll ask again, why is Beck not a Parcells type?
     
  39. Swampfox

    Swampfox Season Ticket Holder

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    Because he hasnt played for Parcells before. Its that simple
     
  40. Hugo Guzman

    Hugo Guzman New Member

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    Carson Palmer and Drew Brees wear No. 9, as did Hall of Famer Sonny Jurgensen. I'm sure there are others, but I don't feel like digging around.
     

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