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Common sense.Whats your take.

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by funkdat, Oct 22, 2008.

  1. funkdat

    funkdat New Member

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    Common sense would tell you were going to play are younger guys if we can't get a few more win's.

    As far as CP play so far, he has a QBR of 97.4/ 6 TD's/ 3 INT/ 1'396 yards and 1 Fum's so far and i think it's safe to say if he had better Oline play and better WR he'd be having a even better year, with more yards and TD's

    ahh so let's look at a team that has that, how about the Jets.
    Brett Favre has a QBR of 92.3/ 13 TD's/ 8 INT/ 1321 yards and 6 fum's so far on the year and i think it's safe to say with our Oline play and our WR he'd be having a year with even more INT's and Fum's.

    So my point is..........unless CH wakes up one day and starts playing like one of the best QB's ever, he may not play in a meaningful game in the next two years, and if CP plays like he has been he'll be our starting QB for longer then just two years.

    Whats your take???
     
  2. Brown42000

    Brown42000 Chillin

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    The offensive line is not nearly as bad as you think it is. IMO it is pretty good.
     
  3. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    I think Penny is our glue right now on offense. Henne needs to sit and learn.:wink2:
     
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  4. funkdat

    funkdat New Member

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    We have had only 2 games out of 6 that we rushed for more yards then the teams we played.That's kind of why were 2-4 right now.

    Other then the two win's.......... Where we did kick some butt, here is what we have done.

    Week 1. 49 rushing yards
    Week 2. 72 rushing yards
    Week 6. 96 rushing yards
    Week 7. 69 rushing yards

    If we all can that agree it's not RB and RW that's sucking.Then it points at the Oline.We only started useing the "wildcat" because we couldn't run the ball,,,,after all.

    Having a Vet playing QB helps mask how bad the Oline has played as well.
     
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  5. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    It's the interior of the oline that's been the problem as of late. Jake has been great and Carey has been pretty good. A lot of the problem with the lack of production in the run game has been because of the middle of the oline getting soft and our play calling has been so up and down. I think they give up on the traditional run game too fast and try to get gimmicky.
     
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  6. funkdat

    funkdat New Member

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    ^ I agree 100 %
     
  7. bkbuffet

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    CP has only played all 16 games once in his entire 8 year career. I think it is a very good possibility that Henne will get a start before the season is over. Depending on how he does when finally starts will determine quite a bit about his future as a starter.

    The OL is playing better than it has in several years. When you take into account the youth there, I believe things will only get better. Those stats on Favre tell me the Jets OL is not playing as well as the Dolphins. 8 INT's and 6 fumbles tell me Favre does not have the time he needs to make the throws. The 13 TD's say he has much better receivers.

    Another stat you left out is CP has been sacked 10 times where Favre has been sacked 15... and Favre is known for his quick release and ability to throw on the run.

    I think Henne is in an ideal spot right now. He is learning from one of the smartest and most accurate passers in the NFL, and has some great coaches as well. If he can learn to be as accurate and read defenses like CP can... plus have an arm to get the ball downfield... Henne is going to be special!!!
     
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  8. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    The OL has been inconsistent, that's the issue. At times, when we've needed to have holes opened up, they just haven't been there. They've certainly improved from what we've seen as OL in the last 4 yrs, but they still have some work ahead of them, particularly in consistency and pass protection...Penny isn't getting a lot of time back there...I think sometimes, because our OL was so bad the last 4-5 yrs, with a little improvement we, as fans, tend to discount their responsibility for success or failure now, at this point in time...Their improved, you might say slightly above mediocre, but not good or great...

    At any rate, it's certainly not our weakest link right now. The problem we're having now is that the D can't seem to get consistent pressure on the opposing QB. Once the pressure disappears, the secondary is exposed for what it is...terrible. We knew this coming into the year, so it shouldn't surprise anyone. Now with Fergy out, it will be that much more critical to get pressure or at least hold our own on the DL. That hasn't been happening even with Fergy on a consistent basis.

    The other thing that is hurting us is our lack of big play ability. Be it that CP can't throw the ball deep effectively or that the OL isn't opening holes for Brown to get into the second level, or Brown and Williams aren't doing it, or that the WR can't get separation, or that CP hasn't had time to throw deep...any way you look at it, we can't seem to hit on the big plays...Not like against NE...Plodding up and down the field is nice if you have a lead...It allows you D to just open up and pressure the QB all day...but we haven't had that mainly because we haven't had many big plays on offense...
     
  9. alen1

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    In week one, we faced the 4th best rush defense. Week two we faced the 11th best rush defense. Week six we faced the 28th best rush defense and in week seven we faced the number 1 rush defense in the NFL. All of those teams have something in common, they have good interior defensive line play. Samson Satele struggles against heavier NT's and he has faced Kris Jenkins and Justin Bannan. Both are playing at a high level right now. Then he faced two DT's in Amobi Okoye, whose quick and can get in the backfield, and Darnell Dockett, whose a good and quick DT. IMO, its not all on our offensive line, its also the tough opponents they have faced. Losing Donald Thomas was huge for us because he was very helpful in double teaming. Nduwke is not the same guy, clearly. The offensive line hasn't been great this year but they have played well. We have basically four new starters (counting Carey moving back to RT).
     
  10. finzman13

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    I agree with pretty much everythiing you all are saying, but we are all forgetting that our secondary needs a little work too. OK. maybe a LOT.:up:
     

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