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So What number will Matt Ryan wear for the Dolphins?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by adamprez2003, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. Danny

    Danny New Member

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    Again people giving up on Beck? Come on guys,I don't see us taking Ryan at 1....Ireland wants a big team and is gonna start with Chris Long if we stay at 1...if we move down I still see us taking defence....maybe a LB depending on where we move down to IF we indeed move down.

    Ozzy rules!!
     
  2. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Yeah I think it will be difficult also. Plus you dont want to drop too far. For me Baltimore is about as far as you want to drop.
     
  3. padre31

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    Wish list, Adamprez is the Campaign Manager for "Ryan in 2008" committee.....

    To be honest, the only thing that would happen to Ryan is he would be sacked at least 60 times...
     
  4. general tso

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    I think Miami takes a QB at some point in the 2008 draft, but probably not until day 2 (which happens to include the 3rd round now).

    Why would we spend the top pick in the draft on a QB that isn't much better of a prospect than Brohm or Woodson, when one of them could possibly slide into the 2nd? Heck, I wouldn't put Ryan heads and shoulders above Ainge or Henne either.

    Also, I don't think Parcells is a big fan of QBs that are careless with the football and have inconsistent accuracy like Ryan's shown.
     
  5. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    But it's a great idea!!!

    Lets spend the #1 overall pick for a QB that:

    1) Has a lower completion percentage for the year than our current 2nd round pick (Ryan 59.3%, Beck 69.3%)
    2) Has less TDs/Game than our current 2nd round pick (Ryan 2.2 TD/G, Beck 2.4 TD/G)
    3) Has slightly less YPG than our current 2nd round pick (Ryan 322 YPG, Beck 324 YPG)
    and 4) Has twice as many Ints per game than our current 2nd round pick (Ryan 1.4 Ints/G, Beck .7 Ints/G)

    This is, of course, based on just the final year of college play for each, but seriously...

    Ryan for 1st overall pick!!! :ffic:

    It would just make this year so much better... :unsure:
     
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  6. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    you know they did play against each other in a sick game last year. Take a look at these stats

    Cougars Drop Double-OT Thriller at Boston College
    by Brent Johnson, BYU Athletic Communications


    CHESTNUT HILL, Mass. (Sept. 16, 2006)--Missed opportunities plagued BYU (1-2) as the Cougars dropped a 30-23 decision in double overtime against No. 23 Boston College (3-0).

    BYU amassed 547 total yards to Boston College's 471. John Beck was 38-for-59 for 436 yards and a touchdown. Curtis Brown had 54 yards rushing and 94 yards receiving.

    For the second consecutive week, BYU got off to a hot start. The Cougars' McKay Jacobson retuned the ball to the BYU 34-yard line. Beck led the offense on an 11-play, 66-yard touchdown drive that consumed 4:11 off the play clock. Manase Tonga had a 16-yard completion on third-and-six to extend the drive for BYU. Beck punched the ball in from the one-yard line to score the touchdown for the Cougars.

    BYU forced an early turnover on Boston College's first play from scrimmage, as Dustin Gabriel stripped the ball away from Kevin Challenger and Cameron Jensen pounced on the ball. Penalties hurt the Cougars as BYU was held without any points after Jared McLaughlin missed a 49-yard field goal.

    The Cougars defense held the Eagles offense in check in the early going but had penalties kill drives offensively.

    With the first quarter winding down, Matt Ryan went deep, hitting Brandon Robinson in stride for a 79-yard reception. Three plays later, Brian Toal ran the ball in from the one-yard line. BYU held to a 7-6 lead as the Eagles missed their extra point.

    The Cougars cashed in on a pair of McLaughlin field goals, including a career-long, 50-yarder to extend BYU's lead to 13-6.

    Boston College responded, putting together an 83-yard drive that was capped on a Ryan-to-Tony Gonzalez 18-yard touchdown pass.

    The second half showcased more offense than the first. After the Cougars defense held Boston College to a three-and-out, BYU's offense gave the ball back on a fumbled snap. The Eagles made the Cougars pay, scoring on an 11-play, 62-yard touchdown drive. With a successful two-point conversion, Boston College took its first lead at 20-13.

    BYU responded with a monster drive of its own. The Cougars traveled 96 yards on eight plays and scored on a seven-yard, Beck-to-Vakapuna connection. BYU got a huge completion from Manase Tonga to convert a third-and-six and keep the drive alive for the Cougars.

    The teams traded field goals to tie the game at 23. The defense held strong for both teams, not allowing a score over the final 10 minutes. BYU came close to scoring, driving the ball deep into Boston College's territory midway through the fourth quarter. McLaughlin's 44-yard field goal attempt hit the left upright and the game remained knotted at 23.

    With 24 seconds remaining, BYU's Kelly Poppinga intercepted a tipped pass to give the Cougars a last second drive with two time outs remaining. BYU's Jared McLaughlin had a 51-yard field goal attempt with eight seconds remaining sail wide left pushing the game to overtime.

    The drama resumed in the overtime session. After the Cougars failed to score in their first overtime, the defense held strong and blocked Boston College's field goal attempt. Russell Tialavea extended the game for BYU blocking a field goal.

    In the second overtime, the Eagles wasted no time getting the ball in the end zone. A scrambling Ryan hooked up with Gonzalez for a 25-yard TD connection to put the Eagles ahead 30-23.

    The Cougars marched the ball to the 15-yard line before a tipped Beck pass fell into the arms of Jamie Silva to end the game. Originally ruled an incomplete pass, a replay ruled there was visible evidence to overrule the ruling on the field.

    BYU will look to rebound on Saturday against in-state rival Utah State at Edwards Stadium.


    Box Score (Final)
    Brigham Young vs BOSTON COLLEGE (Sep 16, 2006 at Chestnut Hill, Mass.)

    Score by Quarters 1 2 3 4 OT [ 5 6 ] Score
    ----------------- -- -- -- -- -- [ - - ] -----
    Brigham Young....... 7 6 0 10 0 [ 0 0 ] - 23 Record: (1-2)
    BOSTON COLLEGE...... 6 6 8 3 7 [ 0 7 ] - 30 Record: (3-0,1-0)

    Scoring Summary:
    1st 10:49 BYU - BECK 1 yd run (MCLAUGHLIN kick), 11-66 4:11
    02:09 BC - Toal 1 yd run (Ohliger kick failed), 4-85 1:55
    2nd 11:15 BYU - MCLAUGHLIN 45 yd field goal, 5-10 0:54
    06:35 BYU - MCLAUGHLIN 50 yd field goal, 7-29 2:12
    03:22 BC - Gonzalez 18 yd pass from Ryan(Ohliger kick failed), 10-83 3:13
    3rd 08:12 BC - Ryan 1 yd run (Challenger pass from Ryan), 11-42 4:11
    4th 14:56 BYU - VAKAPUNA, 6 yd pass from BECK (MCLAUGHLIN kick), 8-96 3:21
    10:07 BC - Ohliger 20 yd field goal, 11-82 4:49
    06:33 BYU - MCLAUGHLIN 25 yd field goal, 10-79 3:34
    OT 15:00 BC - Gonzalez 25 yd pass from Ryan (Ohliger kick), 1-25 0:00

    BYU BC
    FIRST DOWNS................... 27 23
    RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............ 30-111 26-115
    PASSING YDS (NET)............. 436 356
    Passes Att-Comp-Int........... 60-38-2 48-29-2
    TOTAL OFFENSE PLAYS-YARDS..... 90-547 74-471
    Fumble Returns-Yards.......... 0-0 0-0
    Punt Returns-Yards............ 3-39 3-20
    Kickoff Returns-Yards......... 5-97 5-123
    Interception Returns-Yards.... 2-0 2-0
    Punts (Number-Avg)............ 4-49.2 6-40.5
    Fumbles-Lost.................. 2-1 4-2
    Penalties-Yards............... 10-67 2-10
    Possession Time............... 32:15 27:45
    Third-Down Conversions........ 6 of 16 4 of 14
    Fourth-Down Conversions....... 0 of 1 1 of 1
    Red-Zone Scores-Chances....... 3-5 4-5
    Sacks By: Number-Yards........ 1-10 1-7

    RUSHING: Brigham Young-BROWN, Curtis 15-49; TONGA, Manase 5-47; VAKAPUNA, Fui
    5-31; HAGUE, Mike 1-minus 1; BECK, John 4-minus 15. BOSTON COLLEGE-Whitworth, L
    11-61; Callender, A 8-49; Ryan, M 5-3; Toal, B 2-2.

    PASSING: Brigham Young-BECK, John 38-59-2-436; MCLAUGHLIN, Jar 0-1-0-0. BOSTON
    COLLEGE-Ryan, M 29-48-2-356.
     
  7. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    To qoute "I have a dream" :ffic:
     
  8. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Yeah I defintiely think we grab a QB. What round and who is the question. We disagree on the degree to which throwing interceptions in college is important in scouting them for the pros. And we disagree probably on what kind of weapons Ryan has to work with. We'll see
     
  9. NaboCane

    NaboCane Banned

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    Definitely, just not in the 1st. And not Matt Ryan.
     
  10. TotoreMexico

    TotoreMexico Your retarded

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    We are not taking him
     
  11. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Bit late to the party Nabo but good to see you nonetheless. :lol: That's a pretty old thread
     
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  12. Kanye West

    Kanye West 'Parcells' Guy

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    Ummmmm if he drops to 32 I wouldlove to see him where number 2 or 14 0r 15 that would look nice
     
  13. NJFINSFAN1

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    None, but he will wear whatevery the Cheifs or Ravens give him. :up:
     
  14. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    So long as the Jets dont take him. I think I would cry
     
  15. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    Yea, or any of the other AFC East rivals.
     
  16. ATVZ400

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    i say one thing about you ------- you don't give up............
     
  17. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Yeah if we pass on him I want him in the NFC. I dont think I could handle losing to him in the playoffs. Same with Cutler. We better never lose a playoff game to the Broncos in the next ten years. The odds of facing him in a SuperBowl are too big to be concerned about but facing him and Cutler in the AFC playoffs are almsot certain at some point. If it happens we better win
     
  18. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    I'm serial :up:
     
  19. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    It's getting to the point where we've said no to so many franchise QBs over the past few years, that there won't be any team left that we play where we won't be kicking ourselves in the arse.
     
  20. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    That's presuming we make the playoffs to begin with in time.
     
  21. NJFINSFAN1

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    I would not mind, he would help us, he is not going to be a superstar. He will be no better than what they have.
     
  22. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    :sidelol::cry:
     
  23. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    I must presume this for my sanity's sake
     
  24. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    lol, perhaps. :lol:
     
  25. DOLFANMIKE

    DOLFANMIKE FOOTBALL COACH 32 YEARS Luxury Box

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    He might want to choose #32 since thats his only chance of getting picked by Miami!
     
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  26. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    lol. maybe 1 :tongue2:
     
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  27. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    1's a good number. #1 overall pick in the 1st round, #1 jersey number, #1 QB in the league. :up:
     
  28. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    for the number one offense in the league and the number one team at the end of the year :up:
     
  29. PhinsRock

    PhinsRock Premium Member Luxury Box

    00!

    Does the water boy wear a number? :sidelol:

    I'm pretty sure Jake Long will be wearing a number in the 70's though . . . sorry Adam, couldn't resist. I just KNEW this was your thread before even looking. :lol:
     
  30. Ludacris

    Ludacris Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I knew this would turn into a Don't Draft Ryan thread. It's already been debated to death.

    I think Ryan should wear on his back:

    ADAMPREZ
    03

    I'm pretty sure Adamprez is actually Matt Ryan and really wants that #1 pick money.
     
  31. Marino1983

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    I am just trying to figure out where you got the "20%" chance that Ryan was highly thought of by Mueller and Cameron?

    How is J Beck "not" a Parcells type qb? And how would anyone know this with only 4 games under Becks belt? And what is "a Parcells type qb"? D Bledsoe? :sidelol:

    "Sparano is about a 90% probability at this point" That he wants M Ryan? Okay and did you learn this in a personal interview?:no:

    "Parcells took Bledsoe with number one overall so the argument that he never drafts QBs that high doesnt exist" Yes he did but how does this guarantee that the Tuna will draft Ryan? How do you or anybody know what this f-o thinks about J Beck? If anything I believe that Beck is exactly the qb that Parcells covets..

    Your wishful thinking about the Dolphins drafting Ryan is amusing but the points you stated are opinions with no facts to back them up!



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  32. Marino1983

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    IF?
    I truly doubt that there is any question about that..
    :yes:


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  33. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    "Your wishful thinking is amusing but the points you stated are opinions with no facts to back them up!"
     
  34. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    I was right about Sparano and I put the Ryan probability at 50% back in January. I know everyone's on the Chris Long bandwagon (not a chance if JT is in the plans) but the two finalists for our pick are Ryan and Jake so the 50% seems accurate too.

    As to my sources, two words OUIJA BOARD
     
  35. USArmyFinFan

    USArmyFinFan Maximum Effort

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    Great minds think alike.....
     
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  36. Themole

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    :eek: Heee's Baaaack! :up:
     
  37. Finrunner

    Finrunner Season Ticket Holder

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    If Matt Ryan's with the Dolphins in any capacity, his jersey will read: BAT BOY.

    Chris Long, on the other hand, will have a jersey that reads: I'M BATMAN!:batman:
     
  38. late again

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    One has nothing to do with the other, IMO. JT will line up at OLB, regardless and C. Long will line up at DE, regardless.
     
  39. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    i think he should wear the number 0 for many reasons
    1. its the number of starts he will have for miami
    2. its the number on the scale of 10 his career potential will be
    3. its the percent that the fins draft him


    well number 2 reason was harsh i think he will be a joey harrington type qb he will make some good throws but his decision making will lead to his downfall
     
  40. PhinsRock

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    Adam, just put the Ouija Board down and slowly walk away! Those things are a sure fire way to invite a devil spirit into your life, stay away, please.
     

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