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ESPN says Dolphins use trickery to win

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by finsgirlie, Nov 9, 2008.

  1. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    If anything, defenses should thank Miami. We're playing without a QB, the most deadly weapon. In chess terms, we're using two rooks, instead of a queen and a rook. So you know its gonna be a lateral or vertical run. Oh, wait. That is, unless we decide to flea flicker to the queen and attack the opposing teams bishop for the kill.

    Oh, and one other thing. The Steelers wipped out some gadget plays in the Super Bowl. If its good enough to win a championship, then its good enough for me. I hope Miami runs nothing but trick plays for the rest of the season. Send out tshirts to opposing defenses that say, "GOTCHA!!! You've been wildpunked!!"
     
  2. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    if the jets or pats were doing this, they would be hailed as geniuses
     
  3. nerfball

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    The Eagles scored last night out of the Wildcat formation... EVERYONE is doing this now. :rofl:
     
  4. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Well, if it were 'gimmick' or trick plays, they'd only be used occasionally or we'd spend half a drive setting them up...that's not the case with the Wildcat...we're running it 5+ times a game making it not a gimmick but a planned out called offensive play...but it's also scoring at a rate of about 1 every 6 times we run the formation...If that's a trick...so be it...
     
  5. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Yeah because the team who's brought it into the league would have no idea how to stop it. I would love to see them try and fail.
     
  6. Firesole

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    I call it "strategery"
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  7. Fin Fan In Cali

    Fin Fan In Cali Dolphin fan since 1970 Luxury Box

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    I was driving around today, and Jim Rome was talking about all that the Patriots have over come this year so far, and then he let's in to My Miami Dolphins. He said he really likes the team, and they are finding ways to win. I thought I would share that.:up:
     
  8. bkbuffet

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    Last time I checked, a win is a win. They don't put an asterisk next to the 'W' if you used a trick play to get there.

    Besides, it almost makes other teams take you less seriously if they look at you as only being able to win with 'gimmick' plays... I'm all for being taken too lightly! :)
     
  9. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    Footballs football, i dont care. By this time the wildcat should not be considered a trick play formation, we use it enough.
     
  10. felly smarts

    felly smarts New Member

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    Watch me pull a TD out of this end zone. :hi5:
     
  11. StLouisFinFan

    StLouisFinFan New Member

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    Nice analogy. To take the chess thing a step further, to me, the WC is similar to Fisher sacrificing his Queen for Kasparov's bishop, only to secure checkmate in another 5 moves. Like you said, taking your Queen out of the play makes people think "what the hell are you doing" long enough for us to sock the opponent in the mouth in a big way. I wonder how the TD/WC play ratio compares to the TD/normal play ratio.
     
  12. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    It's not just Marriuchi. It's also John Madden ... Peter King ... pretty much all of the media in general.

    Everyone's talking about what a great player he is, nobody's mentioning the fact that he also leads the NFL in interceptions.

    That said, I'd rather fly under the radar than be media darlings. I think this team plays better when they've got chips on their shoulders.
     
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  13. unstoppablefnz

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    We aren't ussing tricks, we're using tricky (awesome) players! what now ESPN!?!
     
  14. dolphans1

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    It's like saying the only reason the Dolphins won in the 70's was because all they did was run the ball, and in the early 80's, they only won because all they did was throw the ball, because they had Marino, and because of all of this success, the owners banded together to change the rules of the game, because the Dolphins had an uncompetitive advantage....

    Did Obama win because he was the better candidate, or because he ran the better campaign?

    Maybe the League should pass a rule making the "wildcat" formation an illegal formation....?

    Come to think of it, didn't the Patriots nearly go undefeated and have a perfect season, because the Patriots spread everyone out and threw the ball nearly on every down....?

    Did the Bills not operate the unfair "K"-gun offense.....?

    The Wildcat formation has made Ronnie Brown a better back and allows him to see the field better....

    Is that trickery....? Who cares.....they're winning....!

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  15. anlgp

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    to sum this thread up in one sentence.

    winning is winning and as long as it's done by the rules it's fine by me.
     
  16. unstoppablefnz

    unstoppablefnz New Member

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    :knucks: you said it bro!
     
  17. late again

    late again Senior Member

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    Of course they're trick plays.....an empty backfield is a trick play. A counter is a trick play. As is any sweep, even an offset I or single back or flexed out TE. Stacked WR sets are too. Cover 2, 5 DBs, Chicago's 46 defense, blah, blah. What about NE's famous 1 down lineman defensive formation?
    The idea is to keep the other team from knowing what you're doing so it'll work.
    The thing that annoys me is when the term is used disparagingly; as if a "trick play" is somehow not "real football".
    **oh I just thought of another one....what about pulling on the OL?
     
  18. IceStorm

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    So....

    On another front, so far this weekend and INCLUDING Monday nights game, I have seen 5 other teams use the Wildcat. It is the copycat league.
    So lets see how unbiased they are, if they say we use tricks...they should say the others do as well.
    Oh the teams? Eagles, 49er's, Chiefs, and I forget the other two from Sunday (too much beer).
     
  19. Onehondo

    Onehondo Senior Member Club Member

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    I am so sick of all the crap that is being spread around about the Dolphins using gadget plays, trick plays and whatever else their calling it. I heard on Sirius radio today that miami won by using gadget plays, as if Miami cant win without gadget plays. When they make the comments about the Dolphins they neglect to say more and more teams are using the wildcat each week.
     
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  20. anlgp

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    yeah they don't usually mention our d that helps out our offense
     
  21. funkdat

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    You all know that write up came from the Associated Press and not espn right???

    It's funny how every fan of every team, thinks espn hates their team, and the officials are in on some kind of conspiracy against them.
     
  22. Sceeto

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    ...and ESPN uses BS to get ratings.

    It's funny how now you see almost every other team trying to use the same "trickery" which we have been using. Imitation is a form of flattery.
     
  23. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    I'm guessing that nearly half the teams in the NFL have tried the wildcat.

    Peyton Manning has been using trickery his entire career. he watches film of himself and then perfects his tricky playaction.

    And did you see those tricky Pats? They ran this crazy play where all of their lineman whiffs their blocks on purpose. Then just before Cassel can be sacked, he dumps it off to the RB with a convoy to block. Very tricky indeed. I think they called it a screen.

    I've also noticed another tricky play. The oline and qb act like they are in pass mode, but then the Qb give the ball to the RB. Tricky stuff.

    Surprise onside kick, tricky tricky.

    These are all thing that are done to TRICK the defense. Isn't that the goal? If the Dolphins are winning using trickery, then isn't that just a ****ty way of saying they were successful.
     
  24. Bpk

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    Yeah, well coaching makes up for deficits in talent or strength with superior tactics.

    So, essentially, they're saying our coaching staff is doing a very good job.
     
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  25. Bpk

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    It will be nive, btw, when we are good enough to be able to literally have the opponent know which play we are going to run out of our base offense and STILL not be able to stop us.

    That is true dominance.... and when you combine THAT sort of talent level, plus execuation AND our coaching advantage (because I believe our gameplans, preparation and in-game adjustments are among the best in the league) you get a Superbowl team.

    Give us two more years on this course and we will be in a Superbowl... assuming Ireland and Parcells can show some (any) success drafting DBs and WRs.
     
  26. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    DB, yes. We need a FS very badly. But we can win with the WRs we have now. i wouldnt mind having a plaxico burress, but i think we need to addess the LB, and DT positions first.
     
  27. Desides

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    Nah, I think defenses are right to hate the Wild Fin. In a normal running play, the QB hands off and does nothing after that; he doesn't have to be accounted for by a defensive player or players: running plays are really 11 on 10. When you motion the QB out wide as an eligible receiver and directly snap to the running back, you force the defense to account for everyone, including the QB: it's truly 11 vs 11. You are taking away one of the inherent advantages of a defense, and they hate that. The reverse motion by whoever is flanking left in a given wrinkle is just as bad if not worse, because then the right side of the field is suddenly one man short AND forced to cover the QB. Honestly, I'm surprised we haven't put Ginn on the left side of the Wild Fin and used him as the reverse runner.

    Now that I think of it, 2008 is not a good year to be a defender: the Wild Fin is taking hold around the league, and offensive players are starting to get in some good hits on defenders after years of taking big hits from safeties and linebackers. (Hines Ward's hit on Keith Rivers comes to mind.) The playing field is seeing a little more equilibrium.
     
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  28. jason8er

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    Yup. Remember all the hype around this?

    ESPN - Flutie converts first drop kick since 1941 championship - NFL

     

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