OFFICIAL Miami Hurricanes Thread

Alen I commend your optimism, but even if the Oklahoma game is stricken from the schedule (PLEASE !), I still don't feel this team will have the coaching needed to make it to the next level. I am very disappointed in the fact that almost every big game under Randy Shannon, the team plays very flat. The exceptions being the two Texas A & M games, the VaTech game in 2008 and the Wake Forest game in 2008. Other than that, its been very uninspiring.

 

I'm not that big on Shannon either Kevin. I hate the fact that he's so loyal to Nix. He stood up for him after Nix got criticized last game. Bill Young has had the defense play well but he's done questionable things. Shannon may not be the answer but I think he sticks because of Shalala's obsession with him as well as the communities obsession with Shannon. I'm not sure how far this team can go with Shannon and the current coaching staff to be honest. I think there has to be changes though and they start at the OC spot. I'd love to see a guy like Gus Malzahn be brought in. He runs the same offense as Nix does but much more effectively. I know their near the top statistically this year in offense (7th pass & rush; 2nd points scored) with Malzahn running the show in Tulsa and last year they had the top offense, the 3rd best passing offense and the 4th best passing efficiency.

 

I believe Tuesday Its Ohio ST vs Miami in College Bball

 

That game is as interesting as my mom's grocery shopping list lol. I don't follow UM in college basketball. You guys got any good players?

 

Yeah not a college basketball fan, though I do hope the Canes win.

And so what if we lost? We're a young team and **** happens. We've won some big ones and lost others, even Georgia go scorched against Georgia Tech today. We're building and we will get there.

 

King we get our revenge for 2002

 

I was really disappointed with what I saw today. It seemed that no matter the play, I could find some hurricane loafing and that seems to be a theme to me. Randy is fielding an uninspired team most of the time, lesser talent has nothing to do with lesser hustle.

 

# 22 Miami defeats Stetson 79-65

The Associated Press: McGowan leads No. 22 Miami past Stetson, 79-65

WOOT !

 

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

By the way,

UM - 7-5

NCST - 6-6

Just sayin.

 

Very true.

 

We have 6 wins

 

We have 7. Your point?

 

But we have 6 and we beat a team with 7

 

By the way, where's that NC State thread? Receptacle?

 

I am just playing with you guys.

 

Still doesn't answer my question.

 

I dont know I made it when the site started and now I cant seem to find it

 

I dont know what you are saying we have 6 wins we beat a team with seven we are better.

I will do the football math for you

N.C. State = 6 wins + Miami Hurricans = 7 wins

So here it is

6 + 7 = N.C. State is better then you

 

That is normal math I am talking about football math.

Are you a blind squirrel

 

Prove it

 

Yes we should light the Canes up

what ever eases the wounds

 

RonnieBrownTown, get the hell out of our thread. You're spamming. Leave.

Go start an NC State thread and talk to yourself. Nobody cares about your crappy program.

 

To bad I did and it go so much post they had to start a new one and know one can find it so there is not as many post.


O and font be mad at me that the Hurricanes can win a game agianst a 6-6 team

 

The next off topic post in this thread will get points. Quit responding to smack.. Ronnie.. stay out of this thread unless you can ADD somnething to it. Had I realized what a pain your smack was, I would have passed out infractions for every one.. and you would be gone for a month.. got it?

 

The players are maturing and next year the Canes should be able to build on this season's improvement. My concern is the coaching though.


Randy Shannon:

Randy is not an elite coach. He never will be and that’s ok because Miami doesn’t need an elite coach to be great again. Shannon is the U though. He has seen success at every level in Miami. He is a great recruiter and he is proving it again this year. He just needs to get the team prepared to play every week emotionally and mentally. He needs good assistants to compete for a National Title. I think he is a work in progress and may blossom a little more next year.

Patrick Nix:

He has been very inconsistent. There is a lot of young talent on offense and I haven’t seen much progress. His play calling is erratic just like it was at GT. The fact of the matter is that the offense performed much better this year though. I think that was a product of better talent rather than coaching. I think some of the games the D looked bad was a result of the O not being able to sustain any type of drive. Nix has to fix that and learn to manage the game better. I don’t think he will be replaced because of the budget. Next year he will have to show what he can do with what should be a very talented group. My fear is that he shows he is average at best. Nobody wants to see Harris and Marve learning a new O to begin their Junior year.

Bill Young:

I can’t figure out if the players had trouble adjusting to the system or the system had trouble adjusting to the players. The Canes have always relied on terrific talent on D. They could man up and force you to try and beat them. The zone D helps create confusion on offense. It also helps disguise blitzing. Who should be blamed for the players not being able to execute it? Young has already proven his system works so like Nix next year needs to provide some results. I think Shannon will try and work in some of his base D sets to use next year when the zone isn’t working. Young made some great half time adjustments in a lot of the games this year. In other games it almost seems liked there was nothing else they could go to. The D has to get back to making teams pay with turnovers.


Overall I think the D will improve greatly next year while the O will be sluggish at times. Talent may overcome that problem though. I think the Canes compete for an ACC title next year.

What do you guys think?

 

Beezle, I think UM definitely will have the talent to compete for an ACC title. Heck I thought they had the talent this year. I just do not like your coaching staff. Nix is not inconsistent, he is just not a good OC. Young has proven his style works, but needed to play a bit more to his players. If they had not learned the zone good enough, then he should have adapted and gone to man more. A good coach will work his system to his players, not the other way around.

So for next year... I think you will see a lot more of the same. Some games where you look like world beaters and then others when you lose to a team with a lot less talent.

 

Agreed.

Gus Malzahn has to be hired IMO. Shannon has stood up for Nix and I don't quite understand why he would do that. He hasn't done a good job at all and needs to be replaced. Malzahn runs the same offense at Tulsa and has the top offense in the country. Replacing Nix with Malzahn, not many new things will have to be learned by the young guys. They could just go with the 'flow' and work their way up.

The Zone defense has been not working this year and the players say that they are just now getting it down, i.e. DeMarcus Van Dyke. I thought about this hard and I figured that Bill Young is in a difficult position. A lot of the guys who are playing either don't execute the basics (tackling, etc; i.e. Ponder), don't have the bodies to withstand the beating against bigger WR's (Brandon Harris, DVD) or they are not physical enough (the whole secondary). We don't have any physical DB's and that's what's different from past years and now. We had guys like Antrel Rolle, who we could leave on an island and let him out-physical his assignment. Young is now forced to the Zone defense but the guys don't have that down. Next year, we may have our physical DB in Prince Kent. He's a bigger CB/S who has long arms and plays at the line. However, I don't think he makes a big impact.

Gus Malzahn please lol. Nice post man.

 

Post.Of.The.Year.

 

Good points. Can't say I disagree with any.

I'm in the camp that judgement on the current regime needs to be held off for another 2 years. If you watched all the games this year the consistent most disturbing thing I noticed was the lack of plays being made by the juniors and seniors on this team. There's also a huge leadership void on the field as well and there HAS to be one on each side of the ball for those moments when the **** hits the fan they can gather the troops and calm things down. Like Ed Reed used to do and Ray Lewis did before him, and Michael Barrow and so on. The moment the Northwestern kids stepped on campus they became the leaders on this team and the voice - what does that tell you? Once this group of kids become Juniors and Seniors - I say look out.

About Nix - you gotta look at the hand he has been dealt with: mediocre offensive line, freshman QB's and WR's plus a HC who insists on rotating the QB's. Thats not an ideal situation for offensive continuity or explosiveness. Next year will be and has to be different. Randy needs to sit Jacory and Robert down and say - "Ok, both of you had a chance to play. Next year we will go with one true starter and a backup. The battle will be won in the offseason, in the weight room and in the Spring. May the best man win." Neither guy can complain then.

Bill Young - I think he was limited as to what he could do because of the youth he had. His schemes are pretty complex and the inexperience on that side of the ball really hurt us this year. Intensity, speed and talent can only do so much. There's no cure for people consistently missing assignments.

Have patience gentleman - RS has this thing going in the right direction. He will be tough to replace because Miami does not pay and what you lose in the recruiting game will be far too much.

 

I last heard Emerald Bowl but I don't know how accurate that is.

 

Its normally between the 28-31 of December. Last year it was on the 28th.

 

Anytime my brother.

 

I read the Emerald Bowl on a Canes board I came across and the actual information of the bowl, I read it on its Wiki.

 

Lol, "fif." I didn't even notice it.

miami-hurricanes.com.

 

No problem, take care.

 

Gus would be a nice addition but I don't see Miami making that move.

I live in Atlanta so I've seen Nix since his GT days. He seems to have trouble getting an offense to flow. It's troubling that he couldn't figure out a consistent way to get Calvin Johnson the ball even with Gailey as the head coach. There are plenty of excuses for him but I am seeing the same problems at Miami. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that James is your tough goal line RB and Cooper is the big play threat. How many times did Nix need to see Cooper stuffed in the red-zone to figure it out?

I'm certainly no offensive guru so maybe the offense that Nix runs is complex and needs players that have experience executing it. The thing that will stick in my mind until next season is multiple halftime shows questioning exactly what the Miami offense was trying to do. It's not often that you hear the talking heads question if an offense even has a game plan at halftime.

On the bright side.....

How great was it to actually be able to believe in the Canes again! You have to admit that a couple of weeks ago it was fun to even be able to entertain Miami having a shot at the ACC title. Nobody would have thought that possible given the loss of the Canes top two defenders. Next year should be a wild ride and I can't wait to see what category Hurricane the former baby Canes can generate!

 

One thing that needs to be kept in check when throwing those numbers out Alen, is the the caliber of the competition. Tulsa is in Conf USA which isn't perhaps the best defensive conference. I don't know if they have a slew of 1st round defenders or not, but it should be a consideration. Also take a look (not that I have yet) at how Tulsa's offense did against top flight defenses. Did they play any ? I think they played Oklahoma, but its hard to judge the defenses in the Big 12, because of either the lack of defensive talent or coaching, or the unbelievable offenses in that conference.

Going by just how Miami played against TAMU this year, you'd have to think the defensive talent and coaching might be lacking. Miami's offense was not exactly a jauggernaut, yet managed to put 41 on the TAMU putrid defense.

Its a shame that I cannot recall any of the Big 12 teams having even one game against any SEC teams this year (or really any year). Did Arkansas play Texas ? That might be the only matchup, and Arkansas was one of the weaker SEC squads this year as they are in a offensive transition to Petino's new scheme.

 

Look at Malzahn's season in the SEC with the Arkansas Razorbacks. I think we can agree that the SEC is the toughest conference in the NCAA. He had the Razorbacks ranked 4th in the nation in rushing and had them in the top 35 in offense. To top it off, that year, they attempted the second fewest passes (only Auburn being lower) in the SEC. He adjusts his playbook to the talents he has on the field. He may not be the top ranked offense if he came to UM but I bet you he could make it better.

 

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