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#1 USC vs #2 Florida

Discussion in 'College Sports' started by Phinz420, Dec 8, 2008.

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  1. Phinz420

    Phinz420 New Member

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    If it were 2001.....

    USC #1 in BCS computers -- if it were 2001 | All Things Trojan | Los Angeles Times
     
  2. DonShula84

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    Seems like a good tweak then, cause no way in hell USC deserves to be #1.
     
  3. Phinz420

    Phinz420 New Member

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    Overall ranking aside, I think it would be a more interesting match up than the Sooners. Not only have they(OK) not seen a defense anything resembling Florida all season, but their own defense is unheralded and I am extremely skeptical of their ability to stop UF with the kind of speed that we utilize in the spread offense.

    USC shows up for the big games, and they seem to match up better against UF, at least that is how I see it. The results of their season certainly should not have inherently keep them out of the argument for the NC.
     
  4. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    Agreed. But I would want to see how they'd do against a top SEC or Big 12 team this year.
     
  5. vmarcilfan75

    vmarcilfan75 blah...blah...blah... Club Member

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    yup me too
     
  6. DonShula84

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    And Florida hasnt seen an offense resembling the Sooners.

    And lets be honest, USC hasnt seen an offense or a defense that resembles that of either team.
     
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  7. pennphinfan

    pennphinfan Stelin Canez Arcade Scorz

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    i love that the excuse for usc deserving to be in the championship is that it would be 'interesting' to see.

    so would Florida vs. Mr. Thompson's third grade gym class. doesn't mean that Florida deserves to play with those kids..
     
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  8. Fin-Omenal

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    Personally I think Ohio State got jobbed...

    Our best player was out and our backup QB was playing at USC, and the officials screwed us vs Penn State.

    How its not an Ohio State Oklahoma national title game is ludacris.

    :hi5:
     
  9. Dolphin1184

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  10. Desides

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    Do we HAVE to keep hearing about USC? They're the college version of the Patriots and Brett Favre. The national press will find ways to mention USC regardless of the topic. It's really getting tiring.

    Florida and Oklahoma earned their ways into the BCS title game. USC did not. Period.
     
  11. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    lol, you're taking it worse than me. And I go to UCLA for Christsake. :lol:
     
  12. Phinz420

    Phinz420 New Member

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    Oklahoma earned their way by beating Texa.....Oh wait. :up:
     
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  13. H.Moody

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    Until the BCS adopts some sort of a "playoff system" we will always be arguing about who should be in and who should be out of the Title game.IMHO with all the money the current "bowl games system" generates the schools are in no big hurry to do away with it.


    ...sorry didn't mean to rant...
     
  14. DonShula84

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    eh, I dont see much argument about how things played out tbh. Texas beat OU but they lost to TT, it was a 3 way tie. Head to head cant be used, end of story. Maybe the Big 12 should have used a different tie breaker, but that isnt the BCS' or OU's fault. If there was a playoff it wouldnt have changed who got into the Big 12 championship game.

    OU's resume is as impressive, if not more impressive, than any team in college football and they're playing as well as anyone at the end of the year.
     
  15. H.Moody

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    ...you're being specific....I was speaking in general... but even so would you want to know if Texas or USC could take down Florida or Alabama..ect........I just think it would be better to have a playoff system that's all...
     
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  16. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, well, I'm sick of that school. Sick of hearing about them during events that have no relation whatsoever to their program (much like how Tony Kornheiser talks about Brett Favre out of nowhere), sick of hearing about how Pete Carroll is a great college coach (plus he's a former Bills, Jets, and Patriots coach), sick of hearing about how USC should be in national title games every year, and especially sick of the whole "Reggie Bush is the next Gale Sayers" stuff.

    A man can only handle so much. :pity:
     
  17. DonShula84

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    Oh yeah. Generally speaking we agree. Though I'm fine with not giving USC a chance :wink2:
     
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  18. Witheringplant

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    Not sure how you can argue Florida and Oklahoma earned their way into the BCS title game, and USC didn't. USC lost to a pretty good team, in a stadium they always have trouble in, and then proceeded to sweep the rest of their schedule. The Gators lost AT HOME, and Oklahoma lost on a neutral field. The only thing you can really argue in the "earned it" field is margin of victory, which is basically giving a big F U to defensive teams.

    Should USC be in the BCS championship game? No, but its a matter of circumstance. Just like Utah. Their schedules just weren't strong enough to put them above Oklahoma and Florida. It has nothing to do with "earning" it.

    I will say though, part of me hoped Oregon State would win the Pac-10. That way USC could prove itself against Texas. A win over Penn State, sadly, probably wouldn't garner much respect from the rest of the nation.
     
  19. Desides

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    I can argue they earned it because they did. This isn't like last year when LSU and Ohio State snuck in the back door. Unless and until the BCS moves to a playoff system, there are ALWAYS going to be solid cases for the teams that miss out on the national title game. That doesn't mean the two who make it didn't do something right. Clearly they did: they wouldn't be in otherwise.
     
  20. DonShula84

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    Beating good teams helps you earn it...OU beat more good teams than anyone in the country and certiainly more than USC.

    Playing soft schedules should hurt you. It isnt USC's fault that the Pac10 sucks, but it cant be ignored either. However, the schedule isnt just a circumstance one has no control over in college football. I will give USC credit for not scheduling weak out of conference opponents (insert ND joke here...) but like I said, you cant ignore that OU went through the Big 12 and SC went through the Pac10.
     
  21. Oboy

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    Was going to say the same thing, but I do have to agree at least USC did schedule some historically top programs (OSU and ND) too bad ND is HORRIBLE right now. I personally like USC better than a PSU just because both are in bad conferences, but at least USC scheduled someone difficult for out of conference.

    The only way to really settle these discussions is a playoff.
     
  22. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    I guess Kornheiser's succumbing to Madden fever already. :shifty:

    Pete Carroll is a great recruiter and assistant coach finder. Maybe not so much a great college coach. Frankly, I wouldn't mind if he made his way to the last remaining AFC East team on the list because then we can finally have dibs on the top recruits in the area. :lol:
     
  23. Witheringplant

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    Which is why I am saying USC does not deserve to be in the national championship. But to say that its because they didn't earn it... that is just plain false.

    USC did everything in its power to go to the national championship, except bet Oregon State. They scheduled Ohio State, Virginia, and Notre Dame as their non conference games. Not The Citadel. They even tried to schedule LSU, but Les Miles pussed out. The only game you could argue wasn't as strong as possible is Virginia, and considering how far out they schedule these games, and the fact that Les Miles is a *****, they did their best.

    If Florida and Oklahoma went undefeated, I'd agree, they earned it over USC. The fact of the matter is, however, they all lost one game. They all made one mistake, and then proceeded to win out. The only difference was the Big 12 and the SEC played well, while the Pac-10 let USC down big time.

    If USC had any control over this, things would be different. The fact of the matter is, they didn't. They gave themselves the hardest schedule they could and ended up with the same record as Florida and Texas.
     
  24. Themole

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    And Woody Hayes decided to take a long Dirt Nap.:lol:
     
  25. Fin-Omenal

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    Crude my friend, very crude.

    If Wood were alive now he would come to your door step and cold **** you twice, and once the police arrive and ask him why he blasted you twice he would tell them "because I couldnt crack him 3 times"!!
     
  26. Fin-Omenal

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    Imagine being Texas, had to play THAT schedule screw Oregon State and the Citadel...they lost on the last play of the game to a top 10 team!!!

    Im not at all arguing with UF/OK BCS game but if your going to make some case for USC then imagine if you were a Longhorn fan, because they have a bigger gripe than anyone.
     
  27. Straz

    Straz Me and my girl :)

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    This is pretty interesting..
     
  28. Themole

    Themole Season Ticket Holder

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    :lol: Yeah, Woody ended up being a real class act. I remember his last game in the Gator Bowl.

    "The 1978 game between Ohio State and Clemson where Buckeyes coach Woody Hayes lost his temper after a late game interception by Charlie Bauman. The play would seal the Tigers' 17-15 win over the Buckeyes, and Hayes punched Bauman on the sideline in front of a national television audience. Hayes was dismissed the next day by Ohio State's Board of Trustees".

    My point was: "close" only counts in the game of Horseshoes & Hand Grenades. What ifs, are for fantasy.

    In spite of that. Woody was a great coach!
     
  29. Fin-Omenal

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    I think you failed to recognize my "Ohio State was robbed" post was to entertain some of our friends around here who insist Ohio State fans are idiots.

    Honestly I wouldve rather went and played Georgia than have to play Texas.
     
  30. Themole

    Themole Season Ticket Holder

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    We are all idiots when it comes to our favorite team. :hi5:
     
  31. Fin-Omenal

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    Are you a Florida fan!?
     
  32. Themole

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    Yes. Then SEC no matter who they play. :yes:
     
  33. Fin-Omenal

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    You seem like a reasonable guy...who was the best conference in CFB this year?
     
  34. Themole

    Themole Season Ticket Holder

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    I'm VERY reasonable. THE SEC of course. Ws & Ls have nothing to do with my decision.
     
  35. Fin-Omenal

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    Credability DENIED!!!!!!!

    Everyone knows its the big ten.
     
  36. Themole

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    :tongue2:Ws & Ls have nothing to do with my decision. Obviously, yours either!:lol:
     
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  37. dolphinfn3454

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    The Pac 10... USC FIGHT ON!:couch:
     

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